MrInsaneA

mrbenja0618 said:

MrInsaneA said:

TV's Frink said:

I'm guessing you could do something with the tracks in Audacity.

Thanks a ton Frink. I'll certainly look into it. 

 

Also, just one more quick question, I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not I'm going to end up dubbing the Nemoidian's voices. Any thoughts regarding that? 

I think all Gungans and Neimodians should be completely redubbed, They were that awful to me.

Agreed. Also, it gives more freedom storywise. I was thinking of borrowing the whole "slave labor" concept from Magnolia's edits, in which case I may HAVE to re-dub them.

TV's Frink said:

I'm guessing you could do something with the tracks in Audacity.

Thanks a ton Frink. I'll certainly look into it. 

Also, just one more quick question, I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not I'm going to end up dubbing the Nemoidian's voices. Any thoughts regarding that? 

I believe so Tservo. Anywho, thank you very much mrbenja. However, my question wasn't on how to rip the language tracks, but how to alter them/combine them to give the "alien language effect."

I was watching Magnoliafan’s Phantom Menace edit, and I really loved the idea of mixing spanish/french tracks to create an alien language for the Gungans. Does anyone here know how I might also accomplish that?

"It's over Death Star! I have the high ground...space...ground!"

Bingowings said:

Or go down the ROTJ novelisation route and have Owen, Obi-Wan's brother and only know of Anakin through the line Ben drops Owen just as he drops off some orphan and a whole load of danger oh his brother's doorstep, hiding Luke on a desert planet that Anakin has never heard of (oh nuts that would take a re-write).

Nooo, but then we lose the whole "Binary Sunset theme." What do I mean by that?

Simple. Anakin and Luke both rose from obscurity to become great heroes while raised on Tatooine. And while Anakin's sun set in the P.T. Luke's sun rose in the O.T. (METAPHORS! :D)

Anyways, I always liked the Tatooine connection to the Skywalker family. I'd hate to see it go.

TV's Frink said:

I only see one guy making fun of Jake (and one who laughed). 

I don't want to see you naked either :p

The inherent irony here is that I myself am overweight. 

TV's Frink said:

Wow.

*in between mouthfulls of food.* "Mfff! Nowfff dissh is podracshing! Mrrrf, nomnom!"

Ol' Jakey's gained some weight. He should try some exercise to get a little slimmer. 
Hey!
Why doesn't he try spinning? That's a good trick. 

ben_danger said:

plus what we lacked in the PT was central characters who represent the common un-privaleged un-jedi joe in the galaxy. han solo, biggs, even princess leia really, all represent the people who we as human beings can be.

it sort of makes sense that the narrative would revolve around the same family of characters.

Y'know, I just don't understand why they couldn't of had Owen be Anakin's actual brother in the Prequels. It would of made his decision to leave his mom somewhat more understandable: Owen would take care of her as the "man of the family" which means that Anakin wouldn't look like a total jerk for never coming back to her.

Plus, we'd have a nice little competitive brother relationship to play off of. Owen never really wants to do anything wrong, and likes to stick to his chores. Anakin on the other hand is the risk taker, and always succeeds at whatever he does, which annoys Owen to no end.

TV's Frink said:

MrInsaneA said:

dgallegos2112 said:

Thank you Yorick/mrbenja0618/MrInsaneA, I'm reading up on those & will check some of them out. Keep the suggestions coming!

A really radical one that's coming out soon is BobGarcia's Revenge of the Sith edit.

Don't get people all lathered up when you have no idea if this is true...unless I missed something.

Hmm. I thought it had a scheduled release date of sometime around next year.....but now, for the life of me, I can't remember where I heard that. :o
Whatever. Sorry to over-lather everyone. 

Holy heck, man. Why haven't I heard of that scene before?

dgallegos2112 said:

Thank you Yorick/mrbenja0618/MrInsaneA, I'm reading up on those & will check some of them out. Keep the suggestions coming!

A really radical one that's coming out soon is BobGarcia's Revenge of the Sith edit. It features a lot of special effects edits a' la the Revisited films, and dialogue and music changes. You can watch it's progress on the forums. :D 

Angel said:

Its already shrunken and we already see that widen up with the wrong way is worst that remaining to the usual path.(most of the EU, games, comics etc)

Its like the story needs Ben, Bail and Anakin as main protagonists and Tarkin palpatine megatron as the shadow forms or twists.

The idea tho that owen seem so cryptic might be a nice small story arc.

-Angel

Did you just....Megatron?

ben_danger said:

MrInsaneA said:

I always thought that Episode 1 needed a Chewbacca/Han Solo pair of characters. The "regular guys" so to speak.

I always imagined Owen and Beru being pre-clone republic troopers. They would be the happy-go-lucky troopers who would eventually become war ravaged and long for the simple life.

Wow. That's actually a fantastic idea. 

 

Not to offend you sir, but I laughed like crazy reading this post, because I kept imagining the Robot Chicken stop-motion Star Wars characters in this scene. Also, the small specific stuff like the fact that it had to be a GREEN Clone Trooper, was pretty amusing.

Don't let it discourage you though. No such thing as bad input. Keep those posts coming!

Vader23 said:

AOTC: Final Fight Get Sideshow figures of Anakin/Mace/Dooku/Jango Fett/Blue Clone Trooper/Green Clone Trooper. Then with stop motion animation: -Have Jango Fett not face Mace in the arena and get killed.Then have Anakin and Mace with two clone troopers(blue&green one) with them go to the hangar to face Dooku and Jango Fett.Have Mace tell Dooku,how could you Dooku,you were a Jedi?Dooku force pulls the blue clone trooper to him and ignites his lightsaber into his chest and says and now I am a Dark Jedi. Then Dooku somersaults over to Anakin and the two have a lightsaber fight. The green clone trooper starts shooting at Jango and Jango flies up with his jet-pack and shoots the green clone trooper with his flamethrower.Then Mace Force slams Jango to the ground and somersaults over to Jango to slice him with his lightsaber. But Jango ignites his jet-pack and goes sliding across the floor and crashes into Mace's legs making Mace fall to the ground face first and Mace's lightsaber goes sliding across the floor. After Jango slides across the ground with his jet-pack,Jango gets up takes out both of his pistols and turns towards Mace.Anakin and Dooku's fight has come to a stop because Anakin is Force choking Dooku where Dooku is hovering two feet off the ground slowly having the life squeezed out of him (Anakin's eyes turn to Sith eyes). Anakin lets go of Dooku when he sees that Mace needs help.Dooku falls to the ground choking.Anakin slices Jango's pistols in one swing.Jango has blades come out of his gauntlets and Jango slices Anakin in the face with them giving Anakin the famous scar. Jango then shoots a tether out of his other gauntlet around Anakin's neck and Jango flies up with his jet-pack and tosses Anakin across the room where Anakin slams into the rock wall and then slams onto the ground.Anakin's lightsaber goes sliding across the room away from him. Jango lands back on the ground and shoots a missle from his jet-pack at Anakin.Anakin Force pushes out of the way and the missle hits the rock wall above Anakin.The rocks come falling down on Anakin,but Anakin Force holds most of them from landing on him.But one big rock gets by and lands on Anakin's right arm pinning him to the ground. Mace gets up and Force picks up his lightsaber and quickly swings it behind him as he blocks Dooku's lightsaber from killing him.Mace and Dooku fight.Mace asking Dooku why he left the Jedi order and Dooku telling Mace why. Jango walks towards Anakin and picks up one of the clone troopers rifles and says to Anakin,time to die Jedi.Anakin Force grabs his lightsaber and quickly ignites it as Jango starts blasting him. Anakin is blocking the blasts.Then In the middle of Mace's fight with Dooku,Mace slices the rifle in half and then keeps fighting with Dooku.Then Anakin Force throws his lightsaber at Jango where it ends up decapitating Jango.Anakin's lightsaber comes back to him and Anakin just watches helplessly as Mace fights Dooku. Until Dooku slashes Mace's arm then leg making Mace fall to the ground.Dooku tells Mace he is sorry as he is about to kill Mace.Anakin cuts off his own hand that is stuck under the rock and flips over to block Dooku's lightsaber from killing Mace. Anakin vs Dooku again.This time Anakin's eyes turn back into Sith eyes as Anakin uses the Force to make everything in the room hit Dooku as they have their lightsaber fight.Some object hits Dooku in the head and thats when Anakin jams his lightsaber into Dooku's chest killing him.

I've always liked this idea, but it could never be acomplished. 

I always thought that Episode 1 needed a Chewbacca/Han Solo pair of characters. The "regular guys" so to speak. So my idea is that instead of Jar-Jar, we have the two Republic pilots for Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, be the sidekicks. When I envision these two, these images come to mind.

 http://th09.deviantart.net/fs4/PRE/i/2004/257/f/1/Gungan_Smuggler_by_StuCunningham.jpg

 http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/8a/RicOlie.jpg

NOTE: I'm not suggesting Ric Olie' as still being the "Captain Obvious" guy, he'd be an entirely different character. An older gruff starpilot and his alien sidekick would be a nice nod to Han and Chewie, while not being a complete rip-off. 

Well for me at least, the three best prequel edits as of yet (both content and quality wise) would have to be the following. 

http://fanedit.org/5322/

http://fanedit.org/13918/

http://fanedit.org/58/

They all come from different fan editors, but the ideas they contain are consistent with each other. Video wise, the quality on all three is excellent.

Kapheen said:

This might be blasphemously radical thinking, but I wonder if the colour of someone's lightsaber couldn't be a representation of their 'Force aura' or something like that. So as Anakin starts to slip towards the dark side, his lightsaber starts to get altered along with him until he is fully evil, and it is fully red.

There can be hints of red appearing in his saber when he kills the Tusken Raiders that abducted his mother, and again when he slices off Count Dooku's head. Finally when he enters the Jedi Temple to murder the kids his saber is full-on red.

When Obi-Wan takes back the lightsaber it technically becomes 'his', and therefore changes back to the blue colour.

 

 

This edit is theoretically in line with the cannon of the OT. And if this were true, Luke's saber would've turned red when he was fighting Vader in ROTJ. Also, I think it's pretty silly to have 'mood ring' lightsabers, but that's just me.

rpvee said:

Tobar said:

ray_afraid said:

Chewie taking a shot to the shoulder and shrugging it off seems unrealistic

Especially considering that in ROTJ he gets shot in the leg and ends up on the floor bleeding.

I... never noticed that. O_o

Chewie....bleeds? D: 

Bingowings said:

Strictly speaking none of Anakin's hilts are the same as the one Ben gives Luke (which changes from between and within the OT anyway).

Vader's OT hilts (and they change too) clearly evolve from Anakin's so you could argue that he just adjusts his first Sith saber over time until it looks like the way it does in ANH.

The general idea is that in terms of narrative Darth Vader has a saber that Anakin Skywalker doesn't use and his son carries the sword of his father (not his father's 'murderer').

The blade colour is the thing that is going to catch the eye of the audience (only the mega nerds notice all the continuity screw ups with the hilts anyway).

If you couple that with Anakin's blade being retrieved from somewhere other than the planet of fire (i'm sure there are other potential ideas other than the ones I've postulated) and you have an alternative explanation for where Luke's sword comes from and which sword is which.

Wait....

We AREN'T mega nerds? :O

Bingowings said:

It's only cosmetic if you want it to be.

I see it as more symbolic and the hilt would only change in one scene (which already needs hilt changes because Palpatine uses the wrong one in some shots) if you go for the second option.

So you wouldn't even change the hilt during the final duel with Obi-Wan and Anikan? I'm confused.

Bingowings said:

It was suggested earlier that Grievous takes his Jedi trophies and modifies them to look like Sith sabers, as a form of defilement ( in real world terms it would be like painting Nazi symbols on the graves of their victims).

Grievous takes Obi-Wan and Anakin's sabers at the beginning of the film.

Rather than making the added effort of taking their own weapons back they grab the nearest.

So Anakin ends up with a red bladed saber.

When Kenobi fights Grievous he retrieves Anakin's blue one.

That way Vader has a red blade (taken from Grievous) and Obi-Wan has Anakin's original blue saber (taken from Grievous) and the scene you describe is no longer necessary.

Alternatively Palpatine's saber doesn't go out the window and Anakin in his rush to save Palpatine leaves his saber behind (he spent much of the last film doing this sort of thing).

So he grabs Palpatine's red blade to disarm Windu.

Palpatine could then give him a new blade to go into the Temple.

But then presumably you have to change the hilt in Anakin's hand in every scene that he fights Obi-Wan. 
It just seems like such a complicated route to go for such a cosmetic idea.  

Bingowings said:

I'm sure someone on here could knock up a zoom to a Naboo console panel next to Padme when she lands with a saber prop on it and combine that with an altered take of the existing shot of Obi-Wan picking it up so instead of picking it up from the pumice beach he picks it up from the ship after the duel.

In fact he doesn't even have to pick it up Obi-Wan just noticing it would be enough.

Another possibility is when Obi-Wan drops his saber on Utapau he doesn't get it back and uses Anakin's sword to fight Vader.

But that would mean altering the hilt in every shot.

See, again, the overcomplicated nature of this idea just throws me off. Having to change the hilt, explaining how Obi-Wan gets it, explaining the reasoning behind Palpatine just having a sith lightsaber in his desk....I dunno. I just keep picturing this in my mind:

Palpatine: Now Lord Vader...do what must be done....

*presses button, revealing red lightsaber on desk.*

Palpatine: Do not hesitate....show no mer-...

Anakin: What's that?

Palpatine: What's what? 

Anakin: That. That thing on your desk.

Palpatine: Oh. That's your new lightsaber.

Anakin: But...I already have a lightsaber.

Palpatine: Nonono, Lord Vader. You had a JEDI lightsaber. This one's different.

Anakin: Oh. So...is it better?

Palaptine: Well I mean...it's red.

Anakin: Red.

Palpatine: Yes. Or crimson, if you want to get into specifics. 

Anakin:....

Palpatine: Is there a problem?

Anakin: I mean....It's just....I already have a lightsaber....

Palpatine: But this one's red.

Anakin: I understand that....

Palpatine: Red's cool. It means we're the bad guys.

Anakin: Well I mean, I don't really feel comfortable putting myself into distinct categories of good and evil....I'm a complicated individ-....

Palpatine: Just shut up and take the damn lightsaber.