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- #552362
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- Idea: Integrating the two trilogies thread
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darth_ender said:
^Good, I'm glad to hear that. I'm still a little iffy about actually liking her inclusion, but as I said, I came here for variety, not the for only way to experience Star Wars. If you make it, I may like it.
As for Qui-Gon, I'm still interested in ways we could include him in the OT. For instance, hearing echoing words coming to Obi-Wan from Qui-Gon, much as Yoda heard from Obi-Wan, seem to suffice and indicate that they are still in communion. Phrases that come to mind include Liam Neeson's line from Batman Begins, "You were my greatest student." Maybe have him hearing Qui-Gon's dying words about "Train the boy" when telling Luke about his father while in the hut (and not Vader, since I would like to see a version that did not reveal that Anakin and Vader were the same when watched 1-6). I know I'm repeating a bit, but other possible line insertions could be during his pondering his own name as "Obi-Wan Kenobi...Obi-Wan," instead of Ben, and on the Death Star seeking Vader. Perhaps even while R2 is showing the computer display of the tractor beam locations, if the pause between C-3PO's line and Obi-Wan's "I don't think you boys can help me," Qui-Gon might have some important line to fill in the gap.
And now that we've brought up the unique watching order of 4, 5, 1-3, 6, perhaps some ambitious editor could even reorder the film numbers when creating the whole set so that they would be watched in that order. Indy 2 is a prequel though it never expressly says so. Perhaps saying "Episode III: The Phantom Menace," would not be such a big deal, as long as something at the end of one film or the beginning of another indicated we were going to take a journey back in time, even if in no other way than including it in the opening crawl.
Other ideas that have come to mind:
-Obi-Wan is already a Jedi Knight instead of a Jedi Tenderfoot ;) at the beginning of TPM as shown in The Coming Storm edit.
-"Your father would have wanted you to have this when you were old enough." Someone did a good job demonstrating this.
-For me personally, I'd like to see a grungier PT, while a further updated OT. For instance, I love how Adywan updated the Battle of Yavin briefing and holographic display. But other cheesiness remains, such as the Star Trek TOS style Death Star panels and displays. I'd personally like to see more holograms or at least panels that do more than have lights that blink for no apparent purpose. Simultaneously, I wouldn't want to throw it out completely, as it remains part of how Star Wars was originally defined for me. Just updating the tractor beam display monitors, maybe adding a couple of details here and there, etc. would improve it while retaining the flavor. With that, I'd like the PT to remain more consistent with that OT flavor; I love some of the shots done by bobgarcia for his Ep III edit, showing R2 accessing an OT style monitor on Death's Hand rather than a holographic display of Palpatine's location.I know these are all extremely ambitious, and I lack the skill to even create a decent mockup still, but I at least feel I can contribute ideas for those more talented than I am to use.
I plan on altering PT moniters/screens (such as the ones in the Announcer's box during the Podrace) to look less advanced and more PT, as well as making the holograms match OT standards also. I'm glad you mentioned BobGarcia's work, as it's him that inspired me to do so.
I feel that Qui-Gon should have a voice over role in the PT rather then the OT. He should communicate with Anakin, and try to be his moral compass. It would mirror Obi-Wan's connection with Luke, except that Qui-Gon fails. I'm uploading a short clip as we speak that illustrates what I have in mind.
