Moth3r

adywan said:

Audio: 5.1 Dolby Surround sound

Untouched from the Japanese laserdisc, yes?

BTW you're not really supposed to request things on this forum that are available on retail DVDs, but seeing as you have already bought the R2 disc I'll let you off this time... ;-)

g-force said:

budwhite said:

or is it just a transfer in LD quality.

No, it's worse than LD quality as seen by a lack of vertical resolution.

The GOUT DVDs are transfers from the D-1 tapes that were also the masters for the Def Col Laserdiscs.

budwhite said:

Does it use the extra resolution of DVD?

No.

budwhite said:

It sure has more detail than my LDs...

More detail than your LD player.

-G

In theory, a D-1 transfer to DVD should be better than a transfer to laserdisc, because of the higher bandwidth (6.75MHz vs 5.5MHz) which translates into more horizontal resolution. Also DVDs store video as digital YUV and laserdiscs are analogue composite.

In practice, there is more horizontal resolution on the GOUT discs. However, for some odd reason, the muppet who did the transfer decided to apply a vertical blur to the DVD (perhaps as part of the IVTC process). This means there is less vertical detail on the DVDs.

WXM said:

Jonno,
Yeah, I use y/c connection of course. I actually am just a little technically ignorant enough not to know if what you say is correct. Mother, do you know?

Yes, this is correct.  A comb filter separates the luma (y) and chroma (c) parts of a composite video signal. So if you feed the card an already-separated y/c (s-video) signal then the comb filter stage is bypassed.

If only I could get my PDI to shift down a few lines, and especially always start capture from the same field, it would basically be fine enough to keep using forever (both of these problems have been asked about at Doom9, no response -- but maybe I'll try again soon).

Unfortunately, the Pixel Magic support forum is even deader than the Doom9 analogue capture forum...

Have you tried asking at videohelp.com?

Jonno said:

The problem with the current range of cards is that DV is usually considered good enough for SD capture - you want uncompressed, which is something else (and until recently quite uncommon on the more affordable hardware, so the Intensity Pro is quite a bargain if it will do the job for you).

Not sure exactly what you're trying to say here. My old £20 card, bought in 2004, can capture uncompressed.

Shitfest deleted.

Any more of that crap and there will be bannings.

Already following the thread with interest...

Then s-video into capture card.

What capture card are you using?

Moth3r said:

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2. I think I read on Doom9 somewhere that the Intensity Pro is designed primarily for HDMI capture, and the analogue capability is almost an "afterthought". Looking on their website I can't see any specs for what kind of comb filter is on the card. The X0 project used the PDI Deluxe, but  this card is quite old now.

Possibly the ideal would be to use a video scaler to convert the composite signal into component outputs (look on ebay, scalers are not as important in the digital age), and get a basic card that can capture component...

From this thread.

It's becoming more difficult to find reliable information on analogue capture cards these days, possibly because (1) people don't capture from analogue sources as often, and (2) when they do, they tend to just use a standalone DVD recorder.

I'm still using the old BT878a card I used for my laserdisc transfers back in the day, so I'd be interested to hear what you find out.

Thanks for the screenshots.

From glancing over the images, I can say that on the plus side this source doesn't have the huge halos/shadows on vertical edges, or the wobbly horizontal field misalignment that plague my source.

It does however suffer from a severe loss of detail from being too dark and very blurry, and is also more heavily cropped along the bottom.

Rev, did you get a copy yet? If so, could you please grab some screenshots (ideally the same frames as in the first post) for comparison?

I managed to find out a little more info on the source I used - the generational chain goes like this:

[unknown] -> 3/4" U-matic tape -> VHS copy -> DVD recorder copy -> my Xvid

I suspect that catnap's version comes from a completely different source.

The laserdisc logo was one of the pre-defined avatars on the old board. I think both Laserman and MeBeJedi used it at one time or another.

Alek, thanks for your post, more laserdisc capture discussion is always welcome here. Looking forward to seeing some screenshots. Do you have any intention to capture any pre-THX discs at all (e.g. the Japanese Special Collection or US Special Widescreen Edition)?

Converting to WAV is an option. There are some losses involved if you then re-encode back to MP3, though.

Check this link:

http://forums.virtualdub.org/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=886

I suspect such a repair is an extremely specialist operation.

You could try asking in alt.video.laserdisc, although it's been little quiet in there recently.

So what did the PM say?

Attempting to send a PM, I received this message:

Your message can't be delivered because this user has reached their private message limit. A notification e-mail has been sent to alert them.

Later I realised I'd actually entered the recipient's name incorrectly, and I'd been attempting to send a PM to a member who didn't exist. The above error message is therefore misleading.

Sluggo said:

Condorman would be a cool remake if a studio took it somewhat seriously.  I'd hate to see Will Farrell piss all over it.

Remake? How about a decent DVD release first? (Both the R1 Anchor Bay and R2 Buena Vista releases are non-anamorphic and single layer.)

Using VirtualDub?

All out of sync, or just the second (third, etc.) appended segments?

Does the audio lag or is it ahead?

VBR or CBR MP3?

DVD Rebuilder.

I would love to see a re-make of The Running Man. Apart from the premise of a gameshow where people get killed, the film was completely different to the original novel (Ben Richards was supposed to be scrawny and underfed, yet Arnold Schwarzenegger was cast in the role?!)

I doubt it will ever happen though, because of how the book ends.

Just for completeness:

IMDb top rated:

1. The Godfather (1972)
2. The Godfather: Part II (1974)
3. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)
4. Star Wars (1977)
5. Apocalypse Now (1979)
6. Taxi Driver (1976)
7. Alien (1979)
8. Chinatown (1974)
9. A Clockwork Orange (1971)
10. Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)

Highest US box office:

1. Star Wars (1977)
2. Jaws (1975)
3. The Exorcist (1973)
4. Grease (1978)
5. The Sting (1973)
6. Animal House (1978)
7. The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975)
8. The Godfather (1972)
9. Superman (1978)
10. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)

SilverWook said:

Someone on this board had access to some SE DTS discs a couple years back, but I have no idea if they could figure out how to play them back. The players used in a theater are proprietary and synch up to a timecode embedded in the film.

For discs produced before 2005, it is possible for certain pirate/hacker types to rip the audio off the DTS theater discs. I have no idea how, or what equipment is involved.

After 2005 the discs were encrypted, and this encryption has AFAIK never been cracked.

Quoting the forum rules:

- Large images in signatures are also very annoying to most users. Keeping them at or below 600x120 is recommended.

I know this policy hasn't been rigidly enforced, although we do take action when someone is blatently taking the piss (e.g. huge images or 4MB animated GIFs).

Are you willing to name and shame the worst offenders? (PM if you like)

IMDb top rated:

1.  The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
2.  Pulp Fiction (1994)
3.  Schindler's List (1993)
4.  Goodfellas (1990)
5.  Fight Club (1999)
6.  The Usual Suspects (1994)
7.  The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
8.  The Matrix (1999)
9.  Se7en (1995)
10. Léon (1994)

Highest US box office:

1.     Titanic (1997)
2.     Star Wars: Episode I (1999)
3.     Jurassic Park (1993)
4.     Forrest Gump (1994)
5.     The Lion King (1994)
6.     Independence Day (1996)
7.     The Sixth Sense (1999)
8.     Home Alone (1990)
9.     Men in Black (1997)
10.   Toy Story 2 (1999)

Bump after thread merge.

When I look at ther profile, I get:

Join Date: 11 Jun 2009
Last Online: 11 Jun 2009, 4:07 AM

I think the "Last Online" time is linked to your local timezone. It was probably the 11th for her when she joined.

g-force said:

dark_jedi said:

don't you think this has a pretty good chance of making a nice AVCHD project?

No. The GOUT doesn't even have enough resolution to make a nice DVD.

-G

Rephrasing the question - suppose you have a display with 1080p native resolution. Would an AVCHD made from the GOUT stabilization script (i.e. upscaled with the EEDI2 algorithm) look any better than an anamorphic DVD from the script played on an upscaling DVD player?

(I suppose the answer is "depends on the upscaling in the player", but just interested to hear your thoughts.)