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#243128
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Are the PAL GOUT DVDs upscaled from the NTSC masters?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243128/action/topic#243128
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(GOUT = George's Original Unaltered Trilogy)

I ordered the PAL DVDs, because I assumed they would be sourced from the same masters used for the French/German laserdisc releases in 1995. The PAL laserdiscs are in some respects superior to their DC/Faces counterparts.

I haven't received my discs yet, but I'm getting worried that I'm going to be disappointed - from what I've seen so far, it looks as though the PAL discs have been created by upscaling the NTSC source.

Here's my reasoning:

- The shot from the PAL DVD showing the blockade runner and the star destroyer (provided by boris here) has framing very similar to the NTSC laserdiscs. The PAL laserdiscs are framed much tighter for this shot.

- Reports of distracting "telecine wobble". This wobble is most noticeable in the NTSC laserdisc of ANH. The PAL laserdisc doesn't suffer so badly.

- No one has mentioned seeing the famous "burn marks" in the first scene with the droids. These marks are a trademark of the PAL masters.

- Reports of aliasing. A side effect of upscaling; also, Citizen noticed bad aliasing in the NTSC discs in the rebel base scenes (can't find the post now).

- Every screenshot I've seen so far seems to be less detailed than my PAL laserdisc transfer.

If this is truly the case, then it is very disappointing (I know the whole non-anamorphic issue was disappointing from the start, but I thought I might at least be able to salvage something from these discs).

The possibilty of a Moth3r laserdisc transfer V1.1 is looking increasingly more likely...
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#243110
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Mpeg 2 Encoding
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243110/action/topic#243110
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Keep in mind that noisy, low quality sources will not encode well.

Basically MPEG video compression relies on lots of clever stuff such as motion prediction to reduce the amount of data storage. Noise is random - unpredictable - and therefore takes up a lot of the available bitrate to encode.

If you filter out the noise before encoding, then you should get better results.
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#242968
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OUT Review
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242968/action/topic#242968
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
"I’ll say now that the transfer on this disc is better than most, but not all of the bootlegs out there"

Wow, that's a pretty impressive statement. I wonder which bootlegs in particular he's referring too.
The guy who wrote that review is a member here. Maybe he would be able to answer that?

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#242840
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TV Tuner vs. Firewire
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242840/action/topic#242840
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Very few people will capture uncompressed video; using the huffyuv codec for capturing will compress the video by approx 3:1 with no loss.

The next best thing after that is MJPEG compression, closely following by DV compression; both of these give better compression (smaller file sizes) than huffyuv but are lossy.

MPEG-2 on-the-fly compression is really for convenience only, in a DVD recorder or a PC used as a PVR (when you want to store small capture files for immediate playback).

Best results are obtained by capturing lossless video, editing/processing the capture file, then encoding to MPEG-2 using a VBR multi-pass encode.
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#242505
Topic
Capture 1.33:1 with Dscaler
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242505/action/topic#242505
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It depends what your final desired format will be,and what kind of processing you will be doing.

If you're making a DVD, then capture at 720x480, because that's what your final size will be.

If you're making an AVI file for playback on the PC, then you could capture at 640x480, but if you want to do any processing (e.g. noise reduction) then it's usually recommended to capture at 720x480 and resize after processing.
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#242175
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So, this is how the DVDs are going to look...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242175/action/topic#242175
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Some of the comparison shots I've seen do seem to show that my laserdisc capture is slightly sharper and more detailed than the official DVDs - which is disappointing, but I don't know if these shots are truly representative of the DVD. You can however see that the colour was messed up in my ANH and TESB transfers (bit of a reddish tinge and not enough green/yellow).
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#242165
Topic
Adding an audio track to a DVD?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242165/action/topic#242165
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The simple, fairly easy way to achieve this, using only free software, is as follows:

1. Use DVD Decrypter in IFO mode to demux the separate video and audio from the R1 disc, and the audio track from the R2 disc.
2. Use BeSweet to transcode the R2 audio, slowing it down to the correct speed so it will be in sync with the NTSC video.
3. Use DVDAuthorGUI to author a new DVD containing the video and 2 audio tracks. (However, you will lose the menu structure and any extras on the original disc.)

If you want to keep the disc structure, it can be done using a program called VobBlanker. Basically you multiplex a new title containing the two audio tracks, and this program will insert it into the disc structure in place of the existing title. But I seem to remember it might be a bit more complicated than that. Anyway, have a go a steps 1 and 2, post back here if you have any problems, then take it from there.
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#242041
Topic
Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242041/action/topic#242041
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Originally posted by: DarthBalls1138
Well what if someones custom dvd went so far as to change the color and apply filters, would it then be considered a fan edit? No.
If thats not far enough would what adywan is doing be considered far enough, what if someone did the same thing with this version instead of the 04 version?
Yes, inserting additional scenes and your own homemade special effects shots would qualify as a fan edit.
Also will the XO be considered a fan preservation since its using a different source...
(Note, it's X0, not XO.)
The X0 project was started as a preservation of a version of a film that hadn't had a DVD release. It's also partly a restoration, because of the ongoing efforts to clean up the film artefacts. As for allowing open discussion on the forum about how to obtain a copy when it's finished, I would guess probably not (but that's for Jay and Zion to discuss).