Mocata

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Yeah this complaint is stupid. BB is right there, chirping, as r2 wakes up. Sounds reasonable

That’s not what I mean. So let’s ignore the embarrassing scene where R2 is revealed like a 1:1 collector’s item for us to get all nostalgic at. He comes online as he’s like “oh hey I’m alive, you didn’t take this map already?” before calling 3PO a gold plated fuckwit or whatever they bleeped since he was the one saying how unlikely it was that R2 had the damn thing. Ignoring this, why did he wake up at that exact moment just in time for the battle victory? What if it took like another year or more? Or never? It’s all backwards, as if they realised that if BB8 had the whole map the movie wouldn’t need a diversion into the Death Star, and so they made up the missing fragment and sleepy R2 stuff.

Colin Trevorrow and Derek Connolly are writing it.

Oooh that’s bad…

I though Rian was writing it.

That’s good…!

Paramount’s already staked out a Transformers movie

Can I go now 😦

You mean this isn’t real life? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxVe45YxBVY

Edit: back to the gifs

SkyderHouseMafia said:

Mocata said:

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - all the points

I’ve only seen around 350 films, but so far, to me, the entire graveyard sequence is the greatest piece of cinema ever. The incredible shots, amazing music, mathematical editing, great revelations…

Without spoilers, what are other scenes that could be objectively the best of all time?

Objectively? WELL. I don’t know. I love all kinds of things. I tried to put together a small top 200 movies ever a while ago so I think I’ve seen many, many more than that. Here’s my personal perfect movies with a few juicy good bits…

1. Truck chase - Raiders of the Lost Ark
2. One shot hallway - Hard Boiled
3. Tech Noir - The Terminator
4. One shot hallway - Goodfellas
5. Hairy arm surprise - Suspiria
6. Chum - Jaws
7. Baptism - The Godfather
8. The derelict ship - Alien
9. The staircase shot - Psycho
10. You gotta be fucking kidding - The Thing 1982

Will that many people realise or care that it’s the SE in 4K? Still seems like less effort for the same top selling result.

You kind of hear the trooper’s helmet comm is that supposed to be it? Plus they played it for laughs in a weird wink at the audience kind of way which is just bad. Yeah Jedi Mind trick, thanks I get it, OK stop it now.

I hope Indy 5 never happens and I hope EPIX has a script by a competent screenwriter.

rodneyfaile said:

Rey was able to do a mind trick without even seeing it done or being trained regarding it, but she did experience Kylo reading her thoughts, so she isn’t entirely unfamiliar with the idea of manipulating with someone’s mind.

This is the thing that bugs me, and it’s because of the execution - we don’t see her thought process at all. I came to this conclusion as well, but I shouldn’t have to mentally edit the film for them.

Honestly R2 magically coming alive is the biggest face palm in the movie to me. I don’t get it and I don’t like whole the map thing.

Disney needs to ask themselves, which is easier with the same profit? Re-release with a possible boost in resolution or restoration and other time consuming efforts?

I don’t even feel like rambling on about him, it’s just too sad. I still remember the 1995 VHS release where he talked to Leonard Maltin at the start of each film, he seemed decent enough back then. Now it’s all wrong.

Well I’m sure all that will happen one guys sales are going to go up. 175 copies sold, and that is just one listing for which there is also a 3-in-1 and then a new one today already selling however many per hour. The DE has been talked about openly by your average youtube personality already, articles have been published, videos about restorations have included mentions of Harmy. Eventually someone will set out to destroy it or it will become another bootleg, passed around and sold without anyone taking notice like the Holiday Special.

Right. The boss, the one who of all people could pull those strings… won’t touch it.

I saw a video that said R5D4 was a Jedi or something. What even.

Grievous is just a villain, and Obi-wan fights him. It’s stupid but there it is, it exists for that reason. C3PO and the factory is ??? who even knows.

I seem to remember George wanted someone else to direct it? Ron Howard said no, maybe others. They knew what was up.

Lust-In-Phaze said:

Look at it this way: the single most compelling evidence of an OOT in the near future is John Landis, who said what he said nearly two years ago.

Yep. By now we have to assume he got the wrong idea, or this is so clandestine it defies most marketing logic.

DrDre said:

The writing’s on the wall. “I wouldn’t touch those. They will always be his films”.

Followed by nervous awkward laughter… jeez.

I can see why people might want to interpret this differently or discuss what the question was she was answering exactly, but to me she quickly brushed over the issue to avoid what he was getting at for a reason. Perfect CEO behaviour. They don’t care about it, and they just want to move forward to new products to please all the saber waving people at the celebration.

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly - all the points

Sure I was one of those kids. Kids are stupid. I saw the whole prequel trilogy in theatres and didn’t have a lot of complaints at the time. We hit each other with sticks after the screening, re-enacting TPM after seeing the climactic duel. It’s embarrassing but I was one of those ROTS fans when it came out. But people change and we grow up, some later than others. While something like The Lord of the Rings got better when rewatching, cementing its status as a high point for the genre, the prequel DVDs gathered dust and were eventually cleared out. I’m not being critical just as an OT fan, but as a film fan. All the lofty ideas can’t save them from becoming tedious and badly written.

If you look at it all as one whole, you have to admit that only certain things stick. Is Podracing still a thing? The Clone Wars might not have been so popular without all those TV episodes lifting it up. They made TFA the way it is exactly because of those ‘general audiences’. They are still making enough plastic R2D2 merchandise to destroy the world’s oceans several times over, so the real cultural impact is still 1977 not 1999.

Well that or Obi-Wan http://omegaunderground.com/2017/04/21/exclusive-mr-robot-creator-sam-esmail-might-pen-star-wars-anthology-script/

Having to sit through the prequels after the cliffhanger in Empire… now that’s something you need hospital drugs for.

The other one is probably the Boba Fett movie right?

NFBisms said:

I do think people don’t give the prequels enough credit. They’ve given me a lot of material to work with in writing academic papers for my film major, and while the crux of film studies and theory is over-scrutinization and analysis of what is essentially entertainment, there is a lot of stuff in the prequels that I’ve found has been significant and/or subversive to film form, production, and storytelling. Not in the context of Star Wars for original trilogy fanboys ofc, just in the context of film history. Obviously only in the last 20 years, and much quieter than the original’s immediate cultural phenomenon status.

Well it may be subversive to avoid giving your actors direction, or sets, or making concept art and models before the script is finished… I don’t see it myself. Entertainment doesn’t have to be massively intellectual, but it’s not always an exercise in blowing millions on a slapped together project; most cultural touchstones are a bit more meaningful and well planned. The cultural status of the PT is questionable at best. People know Jabba the Hutt, Princess Leia, Lando, Chewbacca. There isn’t anything to be said about Mace Windu, The Trade Federation or Little Ani…

GlastoEls said:

Disco_Lobot said:

Overall I’d like to see more new stories with Anthologies instead of exploring the backstory of a bunch of OT characters. There’s a lot of risk of de-mystifying characters in a bad way (See PT for a zillion examples of this)

Yep.

New stuff please Disney.

In a few years there will essentially be two prequel trilogies. Not a pleasing thought.

Beyond the apparently endless debate about resolution and film formats, this thread is basically in hibernation again right now. There has yet to be any real release details for any kind of restoration at all beyond the ‘yeah but I know a guy’ type of comments.