There’s probably a thread there somewhere about it, whether it’s theatrical sound channel differences or later SE changes.
No I don’t mind comic relief in general but when it veers into cartoon physics like the coins or the AT-ST gag it’s too much. Overall I’m a lot more forgiving of this sort of thing compared to those who genuinely disliked the film though.
Mithrandir, those are excellent observations. And not only was TLJ constrained by TFA in unfortunate ways but TFA colors how TLJ is perceived. I think that is inevitable but it does make the the creator’s hand all the more visible and the similarities all the more glaring in TLJ. Like you, I can’t ignore that. There are the separate question of whether Johnson’s intent was always well executed and whether there weren’t some other better alternatives (albeit probably still not satisfying). I think those questions preoccupy most discussions and to many look like nitpicks or nostalgia but are actually referring back to more fundamental objections to the film.
There are also philosophical/ideological objections to TLJ as envisioned by Johnson, which you touched on previously. But that goes beyond whether the film is good or bad, as you noted. Objecting to the particular views expressed through TLJ they won’t be convincing to anyone who doesn’t already share the same point of view - and most people don’t really care!
The fact that there are now new spiritual discussions to have about Luke’s journey at all is the most interesting part of all this. For all the cringe BB8 slapstick moments there’s this whole other side to the story that I really enjoyed.
Everyone will do a 360.
This thread is sanity with a twist.
Hahaha
How I refer to the films
Star Wars
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of The Jedi
The Phantom Menace
Attack of The Clones
Revenge of The Sith
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
The Last Jedi
That’s a bingo.
I’m glad to see the good old ra-ra-rehash argument is back, the circle is complete.
The characters in the ST and their arcs are original, that’s good enough for me.
That and they are entertaining and well made. Almost like a real movie.
The prequels themselves were only original if you ignore all the stuff stolen from other movies, and then all the recycled things that make up that “ring theory” garbage.
I think this can probably be covered as a sub-question in your last thread
Yep, they only make action figures for significant scenes.
Most likely he was just in an extended scene of Rey at Niima Outpost.
Yes, the toy companies got handed the designs before it was removed.
Just a design coincidence. Zuvio is still in a few frames of Jakku.
So Jedi padawan students wear helmets now? Okay…
Huh? I’m not giving you an interpretation, that’s just how it is. Unless you want to believe Jakku has a rainy season and Zuvio had a twin brother… Duvio.
Dude Kylo kills doesn’t look much like a ‘student’ looks like Zuvio.
Just a design coincidence. Zuvio is still in a few frames of Jakku.
It would have made more sense to show him getting greyer as time went on, since it would then line up with Vader’s face too as they were both dark side users. Didn’t he look worse in AOTC than ROTS? It’s a redundant rebate I suppose.
Oh I always talk about those guys when watching ROTJ. I never thought about it that way, but it makes some sense. Usually I figure that they just represent politicians haha.
NeverarGreat said:
For that matter, I’d be all for going back to them using blasters made from real guns.
There’s some real consternation on set when the gunfights are that loud.
I prefer the look of the weapons in general which had been based on real blank firing guns. The new ones look too much like toys.
Sure but these aren’t the days of experimental rotoscope effects or 80s hand animation.
I have to say the idea of him being voiced SE-DVD style is worse than the idea of him being in the movie to begin with or having his own spinoff.
Classic Bib Fortuna’s cloak was missing, so I had to steal another one from Morgan Freeman out of Robin Hood Prince of Thieves.
I know they kept Lumpy, at least.
What about Stinky
Sure visually in terms of colours and shot composition it was far more interesting overall.
Can we talk about saber effects for a second, I liked how they looked more in TFA. Here the original blade is weirdly pointed and too clean? Sounds might have been better too, but I can’t verify.
Yeah there were more waves just like today. I remember picking up R2, Han, Chewbacca and Vader when they had just arrived. It was really funny to compare them to the originals I had collected where everyone was so thin, there was no middle ground.
I think the quote from Mark Hamill was “Good God, they’ve put me on steroids!” but here it’s “Me? I wish!” http://www.starwars.com/news/force-throwback-the-first-modern-star-wars-action-figures
I don’t remember the sabers being this long, but the extra blasters were way too big and the plastic was always bent.
SilverWook said:
Don’t forget Kenner brought back the toys in 1995, a full two years before the SE’s. Sure, Luke and the gang looked like they’d been hanging out on Eternia, but damn it was good to see Star Wars toys on the shelves again!
Hah the jacked up figures, those were the days. Galoob made some great stuff too. That period was the height of Star Wars for me growing up with the 1995 video tapes. Looking back it was all clearly a big brand awareness push as they headed for Shadows of the Empire, the SEs and the PT.
lovelikewinter said:
I still prefer the Rankin Bass animated version.
Hah I give that one a pass too
