Mocata

Your thoughts betray you.

https://www.clickhole.com/star-wars-fans-rejoice-ea-has-released-a-star-wars-1825163921

Yeah, but I was referring to the episodic films.

Well numbered content gives a sense of old and new, so I doubt they’ll want to do that much longer. In a mega-franchise like this things need to have real longevity. The moniker of “Episode…XYZ” has already been slowly phased out for the marketing. TFA and TLJ are widely know by their actual titles now.

Handman said:

Mocata said:

Their movie and TV plans for at least 6 more years are all laid out.

How do you figure?

Say a couple for Resistance, a couple between Game of Thrones guys and Favreau, and in the background there’s time for the trilogy that Rian Johnson recently said he’s still currently writing. The Star Wars Story ideas are shelved right now of course, otherwise it would be 8-10 years.

Their movie and TV plans for at least 6 more years are all laid out.

SilverWook said:

That is a good sequence. And not a CGI creature in sight.

No dialogue in the script either.

SilverWook said:

I’ll be darned.

I keep seeing things that suggest the front of ship is for cargo… but in ROTJ isn’t that the torpedo launcher?

Creox said:

Really? This guy? I don’t see how he even even barely resembles Gunray. The voice is wrong, the intonations are completely different, and Gunray actually does the grammar properly whereas Chan skips entire words.

LoL…I realize that. That’s why I said a “really bad” attempt of the character. My point is that Gunray sounds very cliched as an Asian speaking English.

He sounds like a bad English dub from a 1960s Toho movie.

https://twitter.com/41Strange/status/1033642860866928641

If he is they’d have to keep him unnamed, as a fan service inclusion only. Otherwise it needs exposition, which leads to cringe etc etc. and then the point of casting a known actor is lost entirely. See also: endless TLJ pre release speculation.

People not being brave enough to tell George things aren’t quite right sums up the whole PT.

John_ said:

Star Wars 9 Adds Dominic Monaghan To Its Cast

Awesome! I’ve always been a fan of Monaghan; he was great in LOTR and Lost.

Forest coloured ponchos? What a rehash!

But neither Fake-Tarkin or Jar-Jar were the first rough attempts at a ground breaking idea that paved the way etc. They’re both just expensive failures by people that should know better.

DominicCobb said:
The theory that Qui-Gon is the only Jedi Anakin ever saw as a “truly good man” is a nice theory, but ultimately just that - a theory. There’s evidence to support it, but at the end of the day nothing like that is ever clearly (or even subtly) communicated in the films.

The entire character of Qui-Gon is utterly wasted since nothing results from his death. If Obi-Wan was reckless in TPM and it caused him to become more stoic, then that would be a character thing. If he was a figure that Anakin looked up to and Obi-Wan always failed to match him as a teacher then that would be a character thing. But for any of that to work you have to actually write characters.

If the goal was to create a grand political drama full of behind the scenes manoeuvring and sinister goings on… then they failed. If the goal was to create another three Star Wars films about action, adventure and heroism… then they also failed. One of the biggest problems is all of this should have been re-drafted and re-fined over and over to get it just right, but instead it’s a botched kitchen sink effort with too much all at once. What is it George says in the DVD extras “oh they’re building sets, I better start writing the script”. Haha yeah no kidding.

GlastoEls said:

Can suspect disbelief for the five seconds we see Leia’s face, honestly. All good.

If they spend millions of dollars on it and you still have to suspend your disbelief then something its wrong. Everyone needs that little voice that says “maybe we shouldn’t”. Honestly I’m shocked that it was even done this way when the fighter pilots were just cut from existing footage, that would have been much better.

snooker said:

Funny you mention Leia’s movement cause she was a real actress under the CG face. (Unless you meant facial movement.)

That’s the problem with both of the characters in RO to be honest. Putting someone else’s face over the bone structure of another actor.

To fix it would be easy, just delete those scenes. No cringe and better continuity.

pittrek said:

I said it before, say it again - Yoda with a lightsabre is like Gandhi with a machine gun

Worst. Because they had one simple job to do and they blew it.

Personally I think it looks like a videogame from 10 years ago when cel shading was a big fad. But I don’t care for this type of show in general. As for the viewer reaction, it looks like a kids show. People don’t like the suggestion that SW is for general viewing, they want to feel like big adults. While watching a Disney channel show.

Weird, and pointless. A true SE alteration.

dahmage said:

djsmokingjam said:

DrDre said:

Here are two links from the same critic. The first discusses weaknesses in RJ’s story, and argues that TLJ’s biggest weakness is, that the story doesn’t go anywhere. There are no consequences.

Short summary:

"In The Last Jedi, a lot happens. But not a lot happens for long. Leia’s sudden and unexpected death only proceeds her jarring return to life.

Kylo Ren’s betrayal of Snoke, which leads to a team-up with Rey and himself against Snoke’s guards, implies his redemption… But it isn’t long lasting as his actions hardly reflect his intentions. After the fight, he has to explain himself to Rey, and how they still aren’t on the same side.

This is a classic break from “show, don’t tell.” Kylo has to tell us his motives for the scene to make sense. He essentially retcons the entire sequence, because it might as well not have happened. The scene ends up telling us nothing new. Kylo Ren is a bad guy. But we were already aware of that. Actions should speak for a character, but in the most powerful scene of the film, they don’t.

Lastly, when Luke finally faces Kylo, there’s a moment where we’re meant to believe this is the end for the Jedi Master. It seems as if Luke has accepted his fate as Kylo runs toward him with his blade drawn. Luke literally tells him something similar to what Ben Kenobi tells Darth Vader: “If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”

Luke seems fearless. But then, we realize Luke has nothing to fear after all. He’s not even actually there. This scene is meant for us to anticipate Luke’s death, only for it to be revealed he’s fine… Only for it to be revealed a moment later that he dies anyway."

Both these points seem incredibly pedantic and overinflated to me.

In the first instance, “show don’t tell” does not mean either that dialogue is redundant in cinema, or that actions and dialogue always have to be in perfect concert, especially regarding villains (who are often by nature duplicitous or unstable). The entire point of the throne room sequence is to set up an expectation (Kylo will side with Rey) that is then upended; in much the same way as the action at the end of ESB sets up an expectation (Vader wants to kill Luke) that is then contradicted by dialogue (“I am your father”) rather than action.

On the second point, he’s just being incredibly literal. The entire subtext of the dialogue is not that whether Luke will literally be struck down - Luke has already made it clear throughout the film that he does not fear death - but that in opposing him, Kylo ensures Luke’s reputation will echo throughout the galaxy and that thousands will be inspired by his example, which we see happen in the final scene.

To say there are no consequences to the events in the film is absurdly reductive, and frankly typical of the wilfully and uncharitably misreading “criticism” I’ve seen so much of about this film.

Just want you to know there are many who agree with you, but we have tired of posting in this thread. Excellent points.

Agreed.