DominicCobb said:
It seems like Jyn was originally a very different character.
Any character would be nice.
Edit: I’m gonna stop talking about this movie now, it inspires too much annoyance haha.
They might have a stun setting for unarmed people.
They might? I mean you also mention the two instances they ever use it, I don’t get what is ambiguous here.
Otherwise, from an in and out-ot-universe PoV, why would Imperial and FO Stormtroopers wear useless armor?
There is no in-universe explanation. They wear white armour, it looks nice and shiny. That’s it. Out of universe they call it movie magic, the heroes kill the bad guys who can only hit them back when it suit the plot.
DominicCobb said:
though I certainly would’ve appreciated a better understanding of his impact on Jyn’s character.
Exactly.
I’d rather see the version which had more Saw Gerrara as an actual character, and a finale where the group are actually together. It could still be a grey, lifeless marketing exercise but I’m not sure why he thinks this was an improvement.
I’m not sure why either of those would improve it. It sounds like the changes he made were narrowing the focus of the film and making the character motivations clearer. If anything, he didn’t go far enough.
Because those are character moments that are important for making me care about characters in a movie. As it stands I have no idea what Jyn and Saw were motivated by, beyond a few clichéd sound bites.
Well that’s under the assumption that those unused moments with Saw would provide his motivation, and that his motivation is necessary to the overall story. As is he’s ultimately not incredibly important to the narrative, so in my mind it makes sense to streamline his story if he’s out before the halfway point (and when there’s at least 8 other important characters that are still alive and relevant).
Personally Saw and Galen were the only interesting people and they were wasted. They just die and we’re supposed to… be sad? I don’t get it.
I’d rather see the version which had more Saw Gerrara as an actual character, and a finale where the group are actually together. It could still be a grey, lifeless marketing exercise but I’m not sure why he thinks this was an improvement.
I’m not sure why either of those would improve it. It sounds like the changes he made were narrowing the focus of the film and making the character motivations clearer. If anything, he didn’t go far enough.
Because those are character moments that are important for making me care about characters in a movie. As it stands I have no idea what Jyn and Saw were motivated by, beyond a few clichéd sound bites.
What I mean is, do we have any confirmation they’re truly dead or merely KO’d? I have always assumed stormtrooper armor would prevent a blast hit from being lethal but would not stop the wearer from being stunned.
I think they’re very dead unless we’re expected to believe that blaster energy can explode holes that look like fireworks but only… stun the enemies. Like a chest shot KOs the troopers? What about the ones in grey tunics? Then why have a stun setting? That’s getting too close to Luke and his friendly snooze time power territory.
I’d rather see the version which had more Saw Gerrara as an actual character, and a finale where the group are actually together. It could still be a grey, lifeless marketing exercise but I’m not sure why he thinks this was an improvement.
The Last Laser Master
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ynmC1-YAEc
Well this is Star Wars after all.
Yeah I’m not sure, you probably just need some sense of a crappy feudal system and a bunch of weird creatures to have that classic Tatooine atmosphere. Peasants, outlaws, warriors, bandits. However there’s also the WW2-in-Space idea that comes into play in the second half. You could build from either point to make a new story.
Star Wars is either A) the heroes journey or B) a space opera or C) a fantasy posing as sci-fi. Maybe these ideas have to be combined, maybe not. You can probably push outwards and make a Western or a crime saga without taking too much away. I don’t think AT-AT walkers, lightsabers or Imperial Stormtroopers are what makes it “feel” like Star Wars. These are just set dressing and hollow fan service.
- Block blaster bolts? (Vader in V)
Maybe.
Deflected into the wall.
Did a stormtrooper die by a blast in the OT?
Leia alone kills a few per movie.
It doesn’t have a name in the movies though. The closest is Luke’s “A city in the clouds”.
Han says it. But is that the planet or the city?
When did Vader and Luke fly in the movies? They made great jumps but no flying.
Vader does his little floating jump down the stairs in the ESB dual I guess. It’s more like flying when they started using it as a Super Nintendo animation.
- Does the ‘A-Wing’ aka A-Fighter in Return of the Jedi ever jump to/from hyperspace on screen?
In the shot where the fleet jumps to hyperspace, five A-Wings are seen jumping. They are very blurry though.
If you think about it, it’s pretty weird that all the fighters go to lightspeed separately and not inside the capital ships.
It wouldn’t look as exciting or lend it the feel of a last desperate assault with everything they’ve got.
The only Blu-ray problems with menus I’ve ever had are those discs that want to connect to an online service after you select the first option and it crashes. Had to just turn off the auto-connect settings and deny it when asked.
A long time ago, in this thread, someone shared a image comparing some frames from TLJ with old samurai movies. Now i can’t find anywhere! Would be nice if someone could point me to that pic, the act of kindness would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Just look up some pics from Ran and Kagemusha. Also go watch them.
At this point they could say the next spinoff was going to be a Taika Waititi film called Jizz Wailing Nights - A Max Rebo Story, and it would still be plausible.
Oh right that’s a thing today… but this is like plausible news right?
joefavs said:
I was more interested in a Lando movie than a Han one from the start, so I’m totally on board.
Yep.
Perhaps among fans alone… whoever they are. Judging something through aggregators, ratings sites, video reviews all that stuff is inevitably a flawed idea. Because even in the modern digital age they’re used by a niche part of the audience to begin with. Time will tell when people are less emotional I guess, just things slowed down after TFA. Like everything else. I’m actually anxious after so much debate to see it on Blu-ray. Then again I just watched Justice League and it was a truly bad film, it’s probably all going to be fine.
Okay rather than making another quote pyramid I will just say that yes I believe TLJ fans to be the majority. Or at least those whole liked it plus the viewers who thought it was average at best. The RT score has clearly been meddled with. However even if you don’t consider this the case their own score system is broken. Look at the average user review score = 3/5. Which equates to 60% which equates to fresh by their own rules. Hmmmm.
Meanwhile a site like IMDB which has no media value or current fashionable brand recognition has a pretty reasonable score above 70% after all the fuss died down. And this is even with the 1/10 member reviews that are at the bottom of the page being upvoted. Meanwhile home video sales on the likes of Amazon are selling out quickly. Maybe it’s supply and demand you say. But maybe this “polarizing” movie is no such thing and there’s just a vocal minority. You decide.
Spoiler https://twitter.com/MiracoleBurns/status/980125305372401664
There’s nothing in that definition that hints at it being a slur of any kind.
It does however give several examples that suggest the word is generally used in the context of a topic a majority thinks is bad. PT apologists makes sense, TLJ doesn’t.
It’s like a novel sigh of relief.
Anthony Daniels died in Spring 1978 and has been replaced by a Lucasfilm plant ever since.
Another week to go, I’ve tried to keep away from all the small clips of it that are online lately.