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#1259115
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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NeverarGreat said:

Something doesn’t sit right with the idea that the Force is limited by the physical vessel through which it is channeled, at least where the light side is concerned. It is my understanding from the OT that the limiting factor in any feat of the non-Dark Side Force is the belief of the acolyte, with training as a way to allow for greater belief. Luminous beings are we, after all, not this crude matter.

The Dark Side, on the other hand, may very well have some physical cost, as both of the Dark Side users in the OT were either horribly mutilated or clearly insane.

This is one reason why Luke’s death is so inexplicable to me.

Yes luminous beings, aka the soul or the spirit. The crude matter is what died. I admit that it feels more “correct” that the bad guys feel ill effects more than the good guys, but there are no real rules beyond what is shown. In theory the “quicker, faster” dark path is damaging in comparison to the more disciplined method. But there’s nothing to say that using the greatest powers when the body is already old shouldn’t have side effects. It’s all vague enough to work for me (well OT and ST anyway).

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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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DougieP said:

fmalover said:

It’s been established that exerting your Force powers too much could be potentially lethal…

I guess what your saying is dependant on whether or not your personal cannon includes the sequel trilogy. If yes then cool but for me this is not possible. Yoda states that using the force is a matter of will, not physical strength.

LUKE
Master, moving stones around is one thing. This is totally different.

YODA
No! No different! Only different in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned.

Luke would never die from using the force as you cant die from willpower. If my will was that I was a billionaire, I wouldn’t die from it.

Uh not really. Yoda says the ability comes from belief in yourself but clearly exerts physical energy after lifting the ship. You have to have faith in the power, but the power is still energy running through your physical body.

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#1257951
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<em><strong>ANDOR</strong></em> - Disney+ Series - A General Discussion Thread
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ChainsawAsh said:

Mocata said:

ChainsawAsh said:
… how do you develop characters? By giving them screen time. You could argue that he should have had more development in RO-

That’s a bingo.

I still don’t understand what you’re trying to say between this post and the one I was replying to in the post you just quoted. He didn’t get enough development in one ensemble movie, therefore he shouldn’t be allowed to be in a TV series? Why not?

Because a movie should stand on its own merits. Like the prequels supposedly being propped up by the Clone Wars show, it doesn’t “fix” the original problem.

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#1257860
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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fmalover said:

JokerRulez said:

Here’s the HUGE gamble Disney is making:

fmalover said:

Right now, the only thing I’m really looking forward to regarding Star Wars is Rian Johnson’s SW Trilogy, after all Johnson has earned my full trust with TLJ. I wish I could say I’m looking forward to The Mandalorian, but I don’t have Disney+.

Can anyone create a whole new SW experience that is still , … well, Star Wars?

There is no guarantee of success. Will mediocrity be enough? It’s the only way the film franchise can continue long-term so they’ll invest hugely in this while exploiting all other avenues to milk the franchise (TV, theme parks, comics, etc.).

Oh, in my opinion Rian Johnson is the wrong guy to do this next piece of work given the divisive reaction to his only entry. Need a uniter rather than someone always looking to subvert expectations.

JokerRulez

I don’t get why TLJ is so divisive.

TFA was such a huge letdown I had no expectations in regards to the following episode, and in fact I fully expected TLJ to be a remake of TESB in the same way TFA is a remake of the first SW. Once a friend confirmed it wasn’t like that I was genuinely excited, went to see the movie, and once the credits started rolling, left the cinema with a sense of euphoria.

I don’t think Johnson was trying to subvert expectations, he was trying to come up with the best story he could write and direct, which he did brilliantly.

But there’s your audience division right there: people that thought TFA was a lame rehash and people that loved TFA because it fed into their self importance as fans. RO did the same thing. Then TLJ came along and did it’s own thing and that part of the fandom lost their minds because it stopped telling them they matter.

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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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pleasehello said:

LordZerome1080 said:

OutboundFlight said:

Did Disney really have a choice when to came to the EU though? Prefer they make a movie with drama then “well Han couldn’t die here because he’s gotta be around for the Vong war”!

I prefer the EU where Han doesn’t get treated like less than just so a new actor can get a role.

Opinion: Han Solo getting murdered was the best part of Star Wars VII

The best scene for me too.

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#1256838
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your thoughts: Did Disney kill star wars because it sounds like they did with the last jedi solo and resistance.
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SilverWook said:

4throck said:

On ROTJ the childish stuff hides Luke’s darker motives and tactics.

If you really look closely, from an adult POV, you notice that he uses the force to manipulate the Ewoks.
When 3CPO is telling the story, that’s Luke mind controlling, both 3CPO and the Ewoks.
Immediately after, they are accepted into the tribe, with the Ewoks sacrificing themselves in the battle.
So yes, Luke is not a nice guy in Jedi 😉

On TLJ the dumb childish stuff highlights Luke’s darker side.
So it’s in your face, but it was there before.

TLJ’s problem is not Luke, is the poor B story that makes little sense and is not integrated with the main one.
If you remove the silly stuff from both movies, Luke is consistent.

When has anyone been able to use mind control on a droid?

Maybe it’s just everyday manipulation. Which is kind of worse.