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How many hours of render time did they spend on that CG tonsil simulation?

DominicCobb said:

In a funny way, the fact that this is really the first time that film and digital have been seamlessly blended on a big movie is kind of full circle for the franchise after the digital innovation of the PT. We’re fully entering an era where you can shoot digital and have it look exactly like film.

Interesting but I think that certain parts (the establishing shot of Rey on the meditation cliff for example) look worse and are probably the digital ones.

But conversely…

• Luke learns the error of his ways and becomes a true hero
• It’s not whether you buy from a black market but what you choose to do
• Poe learns the error of his ways and becomes a true leader
• Rey is tempted by the darkside and rejects it and becomes a true hero
• Finn tries an act of stupidity and a hero saves him
• Holdo is a gruff unlikeable character trope, the kind who has their heart in the right place all along

Personally the stakes are irrelevant, small or big, the overall movie is what matters. Which is … a mixed bag.

Too subtle, this one is more appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NPIN_OTLw

Yeah that’s the start menu. The 2002 date is weird though.

Broom Kid said:

OutboundFlight said:

We need to recognize both sides have a small group of outspoken idiots and a majority of normal people who just have different tastes.

I think the majority of normal people don’t have a side at all, and aren’t really engaged in this conversation, because they honestly don’t think about it to that extent once they’re done watching it. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that either. They watch the thing, they like parts of it, dislike others, and either they’re happy with their experience or they’re not. The majority of normal people just move onto the next thing at that point. They never join a side.

For movies like this to make so much money I think that’s certain.

Anecdotally I would say that the average people who enjoy blockbusters in a broad sense didn’t like TLJ and did like TROS. In some cases they thought it was a great conclusion. That tied things up with callbacks they liked. On the other hand I can report that those of more… judgemental personalities think it was messy or bad, and others think it made the whole ST a waste of time. Although I’m only partly on board with the latter sentiment at this moment in time myself.

Art by Raph Lomotan

I don’t think the idea that if you grew up with them they’re still enjoyable is true at all. I used to watch all kinds of total rubbish as a teenager. The great thing about growing up is you can develop your own tastes and reflect on things with 20/20 hindsight. Some things just don’t hold up, others can be appreciated more. The reality is the PT is more well known as a series of memes than anything of note, and a lot of internet blogs trying to suggest otherwise are highly suspicious. But what else is new.

Only a billion! Poor show.

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DominicCobb said:

It kinda sucks, doesn’t it?

I think I’ve heard that before, yeah.

At its best, a vague attempt to bring classic slave revolt and Roman Empire style tales to a new audience. With some ground breaking visual effects/special effects. But that’s only window dressing for a movie; since at its worst it’s just embarrassing, incompetent and lacking any kind of dramatic energy. The merit that it “feels like a movie” next to the other prequels damning with faint praise. But what else is new.

nowt said:

I agree. It humanizes the character way too much. He should be monstrous and untouchable, not canoodling behind the reactor with some floozy.

ALOL

Yeah. I still have the ROTS art book here somewhere; it’s all incredible to look at.

Well, those are the breaks.

Here’s one with the background cropped out

So are Fox https://twitter.com/kianworld/status/1181399877508448256

Putting PT script errors with timescales aside, there are only a few options they’re likely to go with. The true Old Republic era is too weird and detached from the mainstream audience view of Star Wars. Add to this any random scripts they have lying around, which of them is likely to be a safe bet? The origins of Yoda? More Palpatine?

But with one minor adjustment the ship could have crumbled earlier, and then Rose could actually flown in under it and saved Finn from crashing rather than the way it actually looks. But so many minor adjustments… so many ST problems.

Yeah. It’s interesting that this story concept also appears in other works of fiction when they need to string out the narrative to a few more releases.

Broom Kid said:

Plot isn’t a story in the same way a skeleton isn’t a soul.

If you want to be really picky the plot isn’t even the whole script, it’s just the stage notes for each actor.

StarkillerAG said:

SparkySywer said:

Finn wouldn’t have saved his friends by running into the cannon, wasn’t that the whole point?

I’m not sure. It wasn’t made clear in the movie, which was probably not a good idea.

The weapons clearly melted from the beam but it’s unclear of the crash damage would have worked.

But is the dagger made of magic Sith nano-metal that can shift with the tides or is it total nonsense

act on instinct said:

I don’t want to clog up this thread with off topic discussion but since this is where most of the lightspeed skipping thoughts are I wanted to follow up with just a few more of my own. I think the concept is self explanatory, it doesn’t actually need any extra setup, what I find missing is the payoff.

I don’t understand why they needed to jump more than once though, it just seemed like a random Guardians of the Galaxy scene they wanted to copy.

Valheru_84 said:

Except it’s not the same and that’s what my initial point was in replying to Yotsuya. Rey testing her saber was already discarded as a possible in story reason for igniting her saber since it’s clear it was completed well before this scene and would have been tested back when it was actually completed rather than carrying around an untested saber with no tools on hand to continue working on it if it doesn’t work the first time you go to use it.

Well I don’t think we know that. But now it doesn’t matter.