Mocata

Yeah. It’s interesting that this story concept also appears in other works of fiction when they need to string out the narrative to a few more releases.

Broom Kid said:

Plot isn’t a story in the same way a skeleton isn’t a soul.

If you want to be really picky the plot isn’t even the whole script, it’s just the stage notes for each actor.

StarkillerAG said:

SparkySywer said:

Finn wouldn’t have saved his friends by running into the cannon, wasn’t that the whole point?

I’m not sure. It wasn’t made clear in the movie, which was probably not a good idea.

The weapons clearly melted from the beam but it’s unclear of the crash damage would have worked.

But is the dagger made of magic Sith nano-metal that can shift with the tides or is it total nonsense

act on instinct said:

I don’t want to clog up this thread with off topic discussion but since this is where most of the lightspeed skipping thoughts are I wanted to follow up with just a few more of my own. I think the concept is self explanatory, it doesn’t actually need any extra setup, what I find missing is the payoff.

I don’t understand why they needed to jump more than once though, it just seemed like a random Guardians of the Galaxy scene they wanted to copy.

Valheru_84 said:

Except it’s not the same and that’s what my initial point was in replying to Yotsuya. Rey testing her saber was already discarded as a possible in story reason for igniting her saber since it’s clear it was completed well before this scene and would have been tested back when it was actually completed rather than carrying around an untested saber with no tools on hand to continue working on it if it doesn’t work the first time you go to use it.

Well I don’t think we know that. But now it doesn’t matter.

https://www.darkhorizons.com/bearded-jar-jar-binks-to-visit-kenobi/

This sounds like a joke.

But thematically the end should have been Rey at some sort of symbolic of grave for her parents, illustrating that she has moved on. She might even have given the sabers to Maz to suggest that those guided by the Force could one day follow this path or something. Instead it’s just a nostalgia scene for us, not her and not for Luke. She probably buried the sabers on top of Owen and Beru’s bones, insulting their remains. If they haven’t been picked clean by Jawas years ago along with the rest of the farm.

These double posts suck almost as much as the markdown formatting.

I think the idea is Rey used the green and blue crystal parts to make a yellow one since you sort of see the ignition lights. It’s the same thing as Luke testing his. However it makes no sense that this is Tatooine, a place important to the audience and not to a single character involved.

Kermode and Mayo read a few spoiler emails
https://youtu.be/TL9OndTfhno

Valheru_84 said:

yotsuya said:

Z6PO said:

Back to the topic: there’s so much aspects of the movie that I found disappointing, so I don’t know what the most is, but what I would have liked to see at the beginning of the movie is Rey building her own lightsaber (the one we see at the end of the movie), using parts (the Kyber crystal!) salvaged from Anakin’s lightsaber (which got torn apart in the previous movie). She has the ancient texts, she would have known how to build one, and it should have been part of her training. It would have been ultimately cool to see her fight with an orange blade. (Seeing her ignite her new lightsaber for no reason at the end of the movie is just fan service)

ROTJ deleted scene of Luke igniting his lightsaber for no reason before putting it in R2.

Umm, he’d just finished building it so isn’t it logically prudent to do at least a quick test before needing to rely on it for a potential battle?

Yeah that’s fine. Ruins the skiff reveal but logically it’s fine.

If only the Force Dyad was essential to the plot and Palpatine’s scheme. Then the long wait in the evil lair would have been leading up to Rey and Kylo showing up fully trained, to service him in whatever way. That’s the frustrating part of all the ST; a logical script doctor would solve much of this.

I think the main theme from Star Wars accompanies the words “Star Wars” on the screen.

Spoiler - he does.

Rey’s theme has a lot of things in it because they had no plan and Williams was covering a variety of possibilities.

Here ya go: https://youtu.be/FstNC8T4LjA

Broom Kid said:

Hiding reasonable, justified criticisms behind something called “two-hour-rage” is ridiculously counterproductive. Why would anyone want to watch a “two-hour-rage” directed at anything?

If the criticisms are reasonable and justified what’s the benefit in presenting them as two hours of concentrated rage?

Reasonable critique gets less clicks of course.

Motion capture isn’t as much performance as they would like us to believe, and I think the animators are the ones that make or break the end result. Maz in TFA looked decent in many shots but always looked like a visual effect.

The Maz Kanata puppet was very obvious. Shame it wasn’t put in TFA in the first place.

If SKB actually felt like a weird ancient weapon sent out from the unknown regions to mess up the status quo, then I’d be happier about it. But they didn’t even retcon something like that in, they still didn’t explain the status of the new republic or the origins of the First Order. I expected to see Lando actually visit the remaining rebels or something that showed members of the First Order struggling with the idea of joining the Final Order. It’s weird.

I’m not arguing the fact, it’s just interesting to see how little (comparatively) some films made. But they carried forward anyway instead of being reactive. By Phase 2 it was clearly in the groove.

Cthulhunicron said:

Mocata said:

Strange that something like Captain America seemed to have underperformed by modern standards.

As for TROS I guess some word of mouth has kept it going?

Captain America was a lot more popular after the Avengers movie

Yeah but you can’t reverse engineer box office takings.

Empire. All Jedi has was a bunch of muppets.

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Force-Abel said:

On the coming novelization of ‘The Rise Of Skywalker’, by author Rae Carson:-

“just gonna shamelessly take this moment to mention that if the #TheRiseOfSkywalker film included everything in the novelization, it would definitely be at least 3 hours long”

^ https://twitter.com/raecarson/status/1212810807009873926
 

The book will be available from March 3rd - https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Skywalker-Expanded-Star-Wars/dp/0593128400

That tweet kind-of confirms the reddit leaks in regards to the insider speaking about how Disney screwed up JJ’s original 3-hour cut. Then again, it’s a rumour.

Then again, wasn’t that all discredited?

I’d be far more accepting if there was any honesty involved. Something like Blade Runner, The Lord of the Rings or Amadeus is labelled clearly so you know what’s in the box. Even if certain versions are rarely released. With these it’s still shown as 1977 instead of whatever Special Edition they’re now selling. Those two words don’t appear anywhere.