Mocata

Is that like a 3D render or are there actually places that will make you a custom steelbook?

Does the general public even know the PT has different versions? I mean barely anyone out there in the wild knows what the OOT is so…

DuracellEnergizer said:

Mocata said:

Vader’s redemption kind of comes out of nowhere. But it doesn’t matter unless you expect a fully realised villain, with many facets and deep characterisation. The Empire might seem like fascist super state, but meaningful comparisons to real historical figures are not really appropriate. It’s just Star Wars.

All the more reason why Trek is the superior Star franchise.

Maybe once, not so much these days.

Not exactly a big deal in Star Wars though is it.

Is this even a movie/TV thing or just another weird multimedia project?

fluffy PR piece

That sounds about right

Vader’s redemption kind of comes out of nowhere. But it doesn’t matter unless you expect a fully realised villain, with many facets and deep characterisation. The Empire might seem like fascist super state, but meaningful comparisons to real historical figures are not really appropriate. It’s just Star Wars.

How many hours of render time did they spend on that CG tonsil simulation?

DominicCobb said:

In a funny way, the fact that this is really the first time that film and digital have been seamlessly blended on a big movie is kind of full circle for the franchise after the digital innovation of the PT. We’re fully entering an era where you can shoot digital and have it look exactly like film.

Interesting but I think that certain parts (the establishing shot of Rey on the meditation cliff for example) look worse and are probably the digital ones.

But conversely…

• Luke learns the error of his ways and becomes a true hero
• It’s not whether you buy from a black market but what you choose to do
• Poe learns the error of his ways and becomes a true leader
• Rey is tempted by the darkside and rejects it and becomes a true hero
• Finn tries an act of stupidity and a hero saves him
• Holdo is a gruff unlikeable character trope, the kind who has their heart in the right place all along

Personally the stakes are irrelevant, small or big, the overall movie is what matters. Which is … a mixed bag.

Too subtle, this one is more appropriate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6NPIN_OTLw

Yeah that’s the start menu. The 2002 date is weird though.

Broom Kid said:

OutboundFlight said:

We need to recognize both sides have a small group of outspoken idiots and a majority of normal people who just have different tastes.

I think the majority of normal people don’t have a side at all, and aren’t really engaged in this conversation, because they honestly don’t think about it to that extent once they’re done watching it. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that either. They watch the thing, they like parts of it, dislike others, and either they’re happy with their experience or they’re not. The majority of normal people just move onto the next thing at that point. They never join a side.

For movies like this to make so much money I think that’s certain.

Anecdotally I would say that the average people who enjoy blockbusters in a broad sense didn’t like TLJ and did like TROS. In some cases they thought it was a great conclusion. That tied things up with callbacks they liked. On the other hand I can report that those of more… judgemental personalities think it was messy or bad, and others think it made the whole ST a waste of time. Although I’m only partly on board with the latter sentiment at this moment in time myself.

Art by Raph Lomotan

I don’t think the idea that if you grew up with them they’re still enjoyable is true at all. I used to watch all kinds of total rubbish as a teenager. The great thing about growing up is you can develop your own tastes and reflect on things with 20/20 hindsight. Some things just don’t hold up, others can be appreciated more. The reality is the PT is more well known as a series of memes than anything of note, and a lot of internet blogs trying to suggest otherwise are highly suspicious. But what else is new.

Only a billion! Poor show.

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DominicCobb said:

It kinda sucks, doesn’t it?

I think I’ve heard that before, yeah.

At its best, a vague attempt to bring classic slave revolt and Roman Empire style tales to a new audience. With some ground breaking visual effects/special effects. But that’s only window dressing for a movie; since at its worst it’s just embarrassing, incompetent and lacking any kind of dramatic energy. The merit that it “feels like a movie” next to the other prequels damning with faint praise. But what else is new.

nowt said:

I agree. It humanizes the character way too much. He should be monstrous and untouchable, not canoodling behind the reactor with some floozy.

ALOL

Yeah. I still have the ROTS art book here somewhere; it’s all incredible to look at.

Well, those are the breaks.

Here’s one with the background cropped out

So are Fox https://twitter.com/kianworld/status/1181399877508448256