Mocata

Ask the most casual viewer or child and they’ll tell you in just a few words what the prequels and OT are about.
The sequels? Well, things happened. What exactly? Need some mental gymnastics to answer that.

A fledgling hero must join with new friends to stop an evil force from taking over the galaxy, while figuring out her identity. That’s the story. The specific details and internal mechanics of the story might not be good. But it takes far more mental gymnastics to ignore this and complain endlessly in a thread about The Mandalorian.

It’s almost like they have all this great material hoarded but don’t like to admit that deleted scenes exist for anything.

Wow the new deepfake took like a day and still looks better than theirs? Jeez.

idir_hh said:

I think the difference between the prequels and sequels is that one tells a story, and one does not.
No matter how badly the prequels were executed, at least there was a clear story that was being built on. The Sequels are simply a mishmash of ideas with no clear story or message. And for that reason, I don’t think they will ever be remembered fondly.

They had one chance to build a third instalment that tied it together in a nice triad. But instead it was written by hacks.

Yeah chapter 14 and 16 felt rushed to me which is a shame.

Anyway I made a thing for some levity around here.

G&G-Fan said:
That’s another thing that a lot of people miss. When he says “Do not underestimate the powers of the Emperor” that obviously means he faced him before. Obviously he was witness to the Emperor’s power first hand. That actually becomes a plot hole for anyone who removes that duel from the movie, because now how else would he know the Emperor’s power? It fits into the original trilogy perfectly.

I always took the line to mean that Anakin tried to beat the Emperor somehow and failed, thus becoming his thrall. How exactly would require some good writing. Instead Anakin was just dumb and fell for the most basic emotional trickery, then allowed Mace Windu die. And Yoda just knew all of Palpatine’s powers ahead of time, since he saw them from Dooku and wasn’t even surprised by them. They’re now just basic evil powers anyone can learn.

If they can’t get it right here, then making it work for a whole new show is in doubt. I would have loved for the ending here to make me feel positive. Really. I would love to feel like ‘wow Luke is here what an ending’. Instead I just though ‘oh god this again’.

jedi_bendu said:

I’m certain ILM worked incredibly hard to get this effect, like they did with Tarkin, and that’s enough for me. Although I still think Sebastian Stan would have worked well, it’s a great thing that old Mark Hamill can still have a chance at playing young Luke Skywalker.

And I think they should know by now to stop burning money on this stuff that always fails and has to be fixed by amateur deep fake people online. Mark Hamill can still have the role, but when it’s so prohibitive (to the budget and the performance) they need to do it another way. Give him a beard, do practical makeup, do something else. It’s gonna age like milk. Evidently people haven’t complained enough.

Bo Katan scoffed at the helmet rule in her last appearance but here it seems she’s like the real cult loony.

Luke appearing to train Grogu doesn’t make sense within the story of this show?

Luke appearing to train Grogu makes perfect sense.

I’m an incredibly silly kind of guy.

Actions that serve characterisation, not characters that exist only to serve action.

This was a fun episode until the Rogue One garbage arrived, complete with needless lightsaber drooling and dead eye CGI de-aging. I guess they never really learned anything.

jedi_bendu said:

Damn all three of these guys are gone now, this sucks.

The back of that set from eBay has typos on the copyright notice haha

They should have looked at all the ones in Dark Forces II and brought in things like Destruction, Blinding and Deadly Sight.

He’s just older. Jason Wingreen sounds nothing like him in the 1980 version.

Clone Troopers all sound like Jango/Boba because of PT clone accent logic.
Mando sounds nothing like this because he’s not a clone.
Boba still sounds exactly like Jango in S2 because it’s the same actor.
But since this is a Season 2 spoiler thread you should mark it up. Everything else you said makes it unclear if you saw the show since that would clear all of this up anyway.

The Empire would probably have a local leader that would order troops to shoot a crowd like that.

Maybe. The old Empire seemed to have no security on their systems when R2 just broke in.

rocknroll41 said:

Mocata said:

How can it be after though… I don’t get it.

It’s about a new generation of the rogue squadron. Not the original generation.

But in this canon and this time period there is no Rebellion or Rogue Squadron at all? Why isn’t it set during the Mandalorian?

Agree. But why did it let him access it?

My only question is how that face scanner works. Doesn’t it need a biometric pass like a fingerprint reader? Is his face now logged in their system?

They referenced Sorcerer and Office Space? Now this is a good episode. Character beats and pacing were on point, plus the chase had a few classic Lucasfilm style gags. Seems my prediction of where the good stuff was kept is panning out.

ZkinandBonez said:
I am curious however about why they flipped a few shot shots. Seeing the episode again its clear that it’s just a few shots and not the whole scene as I previously assumed, so I’m guessing Famuyiwa just preferred one shot to be the other direction for the sake of a better sense of direction alongside with the other shots as they drive across the bridge.

Probably a reference to the classic ROTJ mirrored Boba gaffe. Or the one from ESB they removed with CGI. I’m kidding, it’s probably just to fix the action geography of who is where.

The last five minutes includes creepy CGI Leia though.

How can it be after though… I don’t get it.