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The only real sign that some time has elapsed isn’t Luke, it’s Han and Leia. That whole ‘I don’t trust Lando’ scene, which was famously changed to feel less hostile, is different from their attitudes on Hoth. Their behaviour says a lot. Beyond that they say 3PO was gone too long to have gotten himself lost, but that’s vague.

That being said… Luke’s vision of his friends in pain is the future. How far into the future? Who knows. Nobody grows hair or washes in these movies. How much food is on the ship? Where do they dump waste material? It’s just a movie.

The idea that travelling through hyperspace is instant sometimes and sometimes not is a minor problem. But it’s not one that needs to be addressed. Certainly not in the current era of movie writing that’s for sure.

I’m not sold on the armourer being a spy, it’s probably one of the guys living on the planet who knew the base existed. Or someone from the the clan like Axe who have been antagonistic and have something to gain.

Looks cool, though I hope it keeps my attention more than the last series which I felt front loaded all the best stories.

Superweapon VII said:
Well, if you’re willing to inject some hard sci-fi into your space fantasy

Certainly not.

Channel72 said:

It sounds like Filoni kind of mourns the EU to a certain extent, but maybe I’m just reading something into his statement that isn’t there. I get the sense he appreciates the EU stories and wants to make a movie that tells some reworked version of one or more EU stories. But I guess he also wants to combine it with his Rebels plot lines.

It’s interesting to reflect on the fact that a live action retelling of most of the early EU stories from the 1990s was not possible for over two decades, since all those stories focus on the original cast who had aged beyond the roles. But now because we’re “living in the future”, those stories can actually be told in live action using deep-fake recreations of the OT cast. It’s certainly uncharted territory. So far, CGI recreations (and later deep-fakes) have been used for minor roles or cameos. But the day will soon come I’m sure when a starring role is entirely a deep-fake. A lot of people find this idea disturbing, but it will inevitably become more and more common as time goes on.

I think it’s more calculated than that. Why write new characters when you can use old ones? Less risk and more brand recognition. A mixture of TCW cameos and old characters from books is potent stuff. Is the Thrawn trilogy really the place to start now, or is it just a logical next step in their methodical mining of the old EU? As for deepfakes… yeah I have a bad feeling about this.

As far as we know Luke has never done any diplomatic work in his life. Beyond his failed attempt to not fight Vader before that whole darkside temptation/electrocution of course.

I think he meant that Grogu learned that by himself through his own initiative, not that he must have learned it from Luke. Not convinced about that whole 2 year thing at all.

Kellythatsit put this all very nicely so I’ve nothing to say. I will just mention that it’s really funny to see how awful and crass old forums used to be in the Wild West days of the internet, when ideas like flame wars were a thing and social media didn’t exist.

I liked Thrawn in Rebels so I hope it all pans out. But I admit for how expensive this all must be they’ve struggled to get eight episodes out of such a lack of material. Perhaps it’s because this is the first time I bothered watching it weekly. It doesn’t seem to be designed for a real time broadcast format and probably should have just been released all together.

Sure. It’s better than them bringing him back and reversing his sacrifice in season one.

Who says they will stop at 10? 12 is clearly the optimal number.

I just realised that Ray Stevenson’s saber and the hilt looks like Vader’s in this poster, it’s not just me right?

Y’know what I won’t link to a huge image, you know the SW 1977 poster I mean.

Someone found another goof like the Jeans Guy

https://twitter.com/peacemakervitus/status/1646121646762147840

Talk about a whiplash of tone and quality. Dang.

They’re gonna sell so many robot walker toys.

That would be one way to go. But I think they’ve got two priorities to cover… for themselves rather than the audience I mean. Firstly they’ve got to establish the event movie again after watering it down so much. It has to be Episode X because that gives it legitimacy. It can’t be stand alone for the same reason. People have to be on board with the brand again before that ‘A Star Wars Story’ thing is wheeled back out. Secondly they have to recover from the mistakes of things like side-lining Finn and other characters. Which can’t be done if they cut ties to the previous movies. A lot of good will has to be regained (for commercial reasons) which means going down that road. Or at least that’s what I predict.

I love Mignola’s style, one of my faves

I like her too, but I’m concerned any interesting things they can do will be discarded.

People repeat things like that so that their story is consistent, to deceive themselves and sound convincing, like someone in court. Then when other people repeat the same misinformation it seems more likely to be true as the story gets passed around. If you’ve heard it more than once it’s more likely to be correct, right? Same old human nature / memory function combo. Just look at how people talk when they argue over the Disney vs the George version of the saga, since he’s the one true creator.

The first one was supposedly canon back then but I don’t remember about part two. What little story that sequel had. Technically I suppose Shadows of the Empire came before and tried the same thing.

What can I say, sound probably travels in that little dome they all live in.

Unless they do some serious work to change how stupid the ‘I am all the Jedi’ thing was it will never work. What does that even mean? How did Palpy die exactly? How is Rey even alive if her power is from the connection to Kylo and a balance of light rising to meet dark? These things could be examined and developed… but they won’t be. Problems that should have been resolved to make the ST story stronger should have been developed in TROS… but they weren’t. Nobody seems able to write a character study or a basic fantasy plot these days, never mind address these kind of potentially interesting ideas.

fmalover said:
How would Owen know anything about Anakin’s convictions if he barely said “hello” to him.

He could have overheard Anakin shouting about the women and children he killed I guess.

Perception of criticism has devolved into red vs green on a site which shows no distinction between good scores and mediocre ones. It all just gets lumped together and called ‘fresh’ which is odd when a 100% rating can be all disappointed 6/10 reviews. As for snobbery… well let’s just say TROS gets 52% critic and 86% audience. Do all these perspectives hold the same value? Will that same adoring audience rush out to buy tickets for Episode X: Everyone Loves Rey?

It’s true that the general public probably doesn’t care as much. Many are probably happy with a fun adventure ending to the ST that had action and Palpatine stuff. We won’t know the reality unless it gets released and has a box office return to measure. That being said TROS made half the money that TFA did so this might not be good plan.

If it really happens that’d be one thing, but if it’s a success that’s something else. Adding more layers to
‘somehow Palpatine returned’ is the whole end game of the current TV glut after all. People should be annoyed but Daisy walked out on stage and everyone clapped like a bunch of seals so…