In a lot of ways Andor is off-brand for the Company so if the brand is what matters they’d rather keep it off the record so to speak. After all, instead of being disposable nonsense it’s a show that took a torture scene from Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy…
Just out of curiosity, do you recall off hand what matte paintings or model work was erased? I thought I was pretty familiar with the Special Edition changes, but I can’t recall off hand any actual models or matte paintings that were erased.
Actually, both of the examples you mentioned were replaced for the SE. The new mattes do look better from an objective point of view, but the original work has still been erased.
This is way off topic now, but Channel72 proves his point. Eventually only a dozen people on here will remember anything was changed.
does anybody knows what happend with Rodney-2187?
last seen january 2022…
hope he´s fine.
I mean his last post was self-explanatory
They did not fit my perception of what Star Wars should be at all. But nowadays I’ve learned that many younger people see the Prequels as the reference point for what Star Wars is. I never thought that would happen, but here we are.
Audiences are getting dumber over time I guess…
Back on topic.
I wonder if this season we will finally see the live action debut of Fenn Rau. I’m pretty sure that’s been the plan all along seeing as the character bears a strong physical resemblance to Kevin McKidd, his voice actor.
More Mandalorian stuff from TCW and Rebels is pretty likely. How the random inconsequential pirate story will fit remains to be seen.
What else is anyone expecting at this stage? I’m sure they’ve all signed clauses when they took the jobs they now have. Hand wave it and change the subject. ‘Nobody that matters to the Company even cares about it’ is at least partial honesty for once.
Episode 2 was much better, good pacing, some lore, some atmosphere. Still perhaps one too many CGI action beats that could have been shorter or replaced entirely, but at least it’s leading into a longer story.
I feel like Season 1 was much more self contained, or at least properly bookended, with the whole Werner Herzog plot. Structure goes a long way in a series that has tiny 8 episode seasons. Maybe they were just trying harder because it was unclear if things would work out for the future.
BoBF completely ruined Boba Fett’s return AND Mando season 3 in one fell swoop. So many awful decisions with that show.
There are certainly some weird decisions going on… because it feels like the two BoBF Mando episodes were what I’d actually have expected the season premier to be.
The episode was a weird mess. The longer opening episodes of previous seasons were much better in terms of content an pacing. It seemed like they were worried people were really bored watching Andor and shoved in both a monster battle and a space battle, without time for the characters. What little they included was all setup for later stories. Trying to revive IG-11 is dumb and makes Mando look dumb. Not a good start.
I should clarify, there’s nothing inherently wrong with a creative changing their mind about something. All stories evolve in the telling of them, and writers are dynamic people who’s vision of their own work is prone to shifting over time.
For example, when JRR Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, it was just a straightforward children’s fantasy adventure story, in his mind. It wasn’t meant to be the prelude to the epic fantasy of LOTR. The Ring was just a magic ring Bilbo found, not the Ring of the Dark Lord himself, who also happened to be the Necromancer of Mirkwood. Tolkien even went back and rewrote the ending to the Gollum chapter of The Hobbit, to make the Ring more consistent with its portrayal in LOTR. And even when Tolkien first started writing LOTR, it started out as merely a sequel to The Hobbit, before ballooning into something bigger and grander.
In a similar way, Star Wars started out as just “the adventures of Luke Skywalker” before ballooning into a drama about the Skywalker family.
The point is, it’s ok that George’s story ideas morphed over time. The problem is that George tends to forget or deny that the change ever occurred. He says “It was always meant to be this way,” when it clearly wasn’t. That’s what people take issue with. If he were more upfront about having changed his mind about things, then people wouldn’t be misled into thinking otherwise.
George’s ideas morphed over time. But unlike Tolkien who loved the work, his languages, and spent time answering letters from fans… George seems to actively hate the fans who made the OOT a success, and doesn’t really like directing movies. The overall denial vibe is also very weird, but I think if the changes were any good people would complain a lot less. Instead it’s like he’s always working on a once classic car and all the tinkering is … well…
The Dooku stuff was surprisingly good. The rest was a waste of time.
Now you’re asking the real questions.
This show was… good. It wasn’t an uneven mess and knew what it wanted to be. It had things like suspense and characterisation which have been missing from recent SW content, if it was ever present before in these terms. It also had some proper acting talent and proper dialogue instead of the nonsense in recent shows. The tone made sense and people behaved in ways that made sense. It didn’t feel cheap and wasn’t full of cringe references, despite a few name drops.
So it came as no surprise that people hated the pacing and the lack of action. Because for better or worse (it’s the former) this isn’t really SW at all in terms of things like escapism and adventure. SW as a continuation of THX or the crime dramas of the 1970s. After the awkward choppy flashbacks in the first 3 parts it all fell into place. So I fully expect season 2 to be tampered with to make it more appealing to a wider audience, i.e. things like Darth Vader and more deepfakes.
It’s these sort of things that mean I can’t yet accept this as enriching Rogue One after the fact. At least not fully. They could give three episode arcs to Saw and Jyn or to Maze and his pals, but it still leads to creepy CGI faces and Darth Vader’s ‘totally epic’ murder spree. Maybe LFL should avoid this and work towards common goals of quality output instead of just handing out jobs to everyone that is in vogue. It depends on if they recognise what they have here. Disney don’t because they buried it on the app front page.
No that would be tonally wrong. There some issues in the movie, but I don’t think all of the darker ideas that were proposed would solve them.
You never saw Aliens? It’s incredible.
Anyway I’ve no time for this show, so I watched the above fan edit. It was pretty dull, but the laughable nonsense everyone got upset about was (mostly) excised. It reminded me of when I saw the Essential Edit of Indiana Jones 4. Less cringe but ultimately not good in any meaningful way.
Would that be with or without the kidnapped and tortured sex worker plots?
That kind of thing was pretty long time ago. They should do a proper discussion in their “re:View” series. Regular guests like Colin Cunningham are VFX artists and have the know-how to talk about stuff like that. Also some years ago they also had the director of People Vs George Lucas in an episode. If structured properly it might have some sort of impact. Then again they’d probably just prefer a drunken round table discussion of trash.
The OOT. That’s it. If the other stuff piques their interest, they can watch it at a friend’s house.
Harsh, but fair.
The idea that Qui-gon would have been a true mentor, and that whole Dual of the Fates thing, seems like an attempt to make TPM more interesting than it is. At best John Williams, as usual, was trying hard to elevate the material.
Whole thread title kinda speaks for itself I’d say.
Looks more expensive than Obiwan for some reason.
Yes I share your feelings, Ben should have been the one to go into the desert at the end. Since he’s basically the only character with a full arc. Too ambitious for a fan edit though.
Ah why not, I love some wummery occasionally.
Oh I already replied, that’s weird.
Uh, wait what I meant to say is, don’t give in to hate.
Yes
Sketched during the movie if I recall. May or may not be a true story of course.