I’ve also heard they are continuing to shoot without anyone related to writing on the set. I would imagine that with or without him the production schedule has deadlines to meet.
Another problem with the Plinkett reviews is that they made people forget about the suppression of the original versions and think that the prequels were fans’ only grevience with Lucas, so Disney felt a lot of pressure to make sequels that didn’t resemble the prequels and no pressure to release the original versions of the movies. I wish Plinkett reviwed the Special Editions in additon to the prequels.
I don’t think we can be sure that the popularity of these reviews led to the ‘play it safe’ nature of the TFA. Mr Plinkett did state in his Star Trek 2009 review that J.J. should direct them though. Disney probably just read the general mood of the fandom at that stage. To test this theory he needs to do a 70-minute video about the state of the Special Edition changes, and we know he’s not a fan because of that interview with Alexandre Philippe.
But the whole reason they resonated so much with people is that they articulated very large problems with the films rather than nitpicks. Just look at the whole Jango Fett subcontracting meme someone posted recently. Or the way the Clone Wars is started under such incredibly weird and suspicious circumstances. The whole trilogy is like that; strange and massive logic holes. But each to their own, nobody has time to argue like it’s 2009 these days y’know.
They’re still doing it when they feel like it (Halloween Ends) but the schtick is probably done unless something particular comes around.
Personally I think that it’s impossible to deliver an adaptation I consider above “OK” but time will tell. I think Denis peaked with Arrival which did the protagonist perspective shifts better. Anyway I guess it will have to wait, I’d like to see Children of Dune done properly if things work out.
I enjoy them a lot, though it’s not like you can recommend them to casual viewers. But at this stage I think the conversation has gone beyond them because the internet has changed so much. They did a good post-PT/partial TFA review but struggled to say anything useful about TLJ for example.
I think you have to have some limits. Otherwise every battle would just be two opponents trying to break each others arms or skulls with the Force.
How embarrassing.
TIE beams are green not red.
Temeura Morrison as Boba Fett makes a lot of sense because he is objectively better at delivering his lines than Jason Wingreen did.
Most of your points I’d say are fair, but Jason Wingreen definitely did a better job with his lines. They sound way more menacing and less phoned in when he says them.
Definitely.
I’m glad he’s excited I guess, but at the same time I don’t know if making a movie in the most over-scrutinized franchise of all time is exactly the best move for Taika right now. Thor: Love and Thunder was an absolute disaster for Taika Waititi’s “brand”: people have begun to see him less as a funny guy who makes cool movies, and more as an immature manchild who doesn’t have the self-seriousness to handle a major franchise.
In my opinion, Taika needs to do what Robert Pattinson did after Twilight, and step out of the limelight for a moment. Make some good low-budget films, rebuild his image, and then, only THEN, do Star Wars and Akira and whatever else he has planned. Maybe then people will actually have confidence in him.
He’s made some great movies but I have no idea what went wrong on Thor… 4? Meanwhile he’s gone back to his usual schtick to make an underdog sports movie with Michael Fassbender. He should probebly move away from SW and that awful plan to remake Akira.
“Cool News: Tony Gilroy, creator/writer of @starwars #Andor, just announced that they are launching a website soon with all 12 scripts & tons of concept art - all free to read!” - https://twitter.com/yogoldsmith/status/1652825407652257792
I’ll look forward to that, especially the concept art!
Neat but also a shame it kinda confirms no printed book will arrive.
StarkillerAG said:
the two moments that everyone says were stolen (the cavalry arriving and the “I am” one-liner) are pretty common fantasy blockbuster tropes. Those moments were pretty dumb, don’t get me wrong, but not because they were ripping off Marvel.
That’s two things too many and frankly I find it suspicious, particularly when they’ve said other things like Rey Palpatine were changed at the last minute.
To make things worse a bunch of ideas were just stolen from Avengers: Endgame…
So what they’re hoping to achieve by making a new episode (beyond trying to forget that stuff) is a mystery.
Whether it could move or not is unclear, but I think it was able to fire at full power if they wanted? It’s very odd that no canon media from ROTS to Andor has ever shown the Maw Installation. Which means all this construction is done out in the open.
Palpatine and 10,000 Star Destroyer Death Stars was used in place of all kinds of real story ideas. I guess they think since it’s done they’re better to double down on that? What’s next, 10,000 Executor Class planet killers? The lack of writing ability is stunning.
It did the bare minimum, it was OK. I think everyone was expecting more twists and more elements from earlier in the story. It felt like things had been cut and the running time was certainly short. It felt rushed. Like what happened to the silly plate armour Grogu was wearing? Or the dinosaurs they captured? Amongst others.
Well that was brief. But satisfying. Oddly enough the dialogue between Fett and Kast has been in my head since the 1990s when it was in the SW magazine. The ‘you’re nobody’ bit should have been the kind of thing that Mando said to Gideon before he died. What could have been eh.
Strange what sticks in your brain for 25 years. Why does the name Jaster Mereel still exist in my mind but I can’t remember where I put my wallet? Anyway I might find a few online copies of Dark Empire or the Thrawn trilogy.
I gotta say… I watched the entire dub of Backstroke of the West some time ago and it was still really boring. In fact that might have been the last time I watched any of these. I was tempted to go back at some stage recently but… eh. I have other things to do besides let SW give me a headache.
I have a weird urge to read Twin Engines of Destruction. I will report back maybe.
Oh yeah I just posted about that in another thread. Interesting perspective to have huh? Which of course was a non-issue really because I recall buying a DVD years ago had included both editions. Who knows if this will spark some deep hidden feelings in George…
If you see news about it on a general outlet that lets the readers give ‘reactions’ there are a lot of thumbs down over SW in general lately. It’s impossible to say what the far reaching vibes are because what we usually see is ultra hyped Celebration types or ultra jaded social media types. Personally I don’t care but I would wait until it’s been released to see how it goes.
From my experience, having lived years in both the United States and abroad, having attended conventions in multiple countries and all, Prequel reception is way, way more positive if you’re not from an English speaking country.
Dubbing in some nuance and gravitas would help a lot of the characters in the PT… just like those fanedits that changed Jar-Jar into an alien language and gave him intelligent lines.
Spielberg talks his ET editing regret
I should have never messed with the archives of my own work, and I don’t recommend anyone do that. All our movies are a kind of a signpost of where we were when we made them, what the world was like, and what the world was receiving when we got those stories out there. So I really regret having that out there.
Someone make sure he talks to George about this…
What an absolute nightmare. For all of the Disney SW era problems this kind of thing is their worst crime.