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After Ahsoka I’ve stuck to my guns and waited for it to be finished to assess whether it’s worth my time, but in this case I can’t see anything of real value. Looks like they squandered their first real foray into a new time period just like they wasted the whole “new galaxy” thing. Beyond Andor S2 I can’t imagine this downward spiral ending any time soon.

They should stop making weird garbage. Any time period, any genre, just stop with the bad scripts and low quality productions. Ideally in a movie format. But they couldn’t even get Obi-wan and Boba Fett right, and those were basically impossible targets to miss. Maybe their current infrastructure will collapse and it can be started over, but it’s hard to imagine.

It looks a bit like the town from season 3, but it’s all pretty non-descript. Incredibly small chance of spoiler:

https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars/status/1811257349149176207/photo/1

Rey Skywalker is insane because it implies anyone can just be that, and yet no-surname no-family FINN doesn’t get closure. Also the movie itself might be watchable as pure spectacle if the visuals at Exogol weren’t wholly nausea inducing. I can only take so much, and basically everything after Kijimi falls apart from a story and action standpoint. Meanwhile the prequels barely work from page one so…

I’d forgotten James Mangold was supposedly working on that. I could be good but then it could be like Indiana Jones.

Those two suggestions are both things I would avoid at all costs if possible. At this stage it’s unclear if any of these movies will actually happen though, so any real release dates will probably change.

Channel72 said:

Bizarrely, unless I’m remembering wrong, the previous movie (Last Jedi) even set things up so that Rey would need a new lightsaber in Episode 9. Isn’t there a scene in Episode 8 where her lightsaber is ripped apart? You’d think that would nicely segue into a new, personalized lightsaber for Rey in Episode 9. But I guess not.

Concept art showed it being rebuilt as a dual-bladed staff, which would make far more sense.

Nothing about the current explanation really makes sense. It was better when it seemed as though red was a choice by bad guys, but not always. As mentioned Leia had a red blade. Villains in Dark Forces II had different ones, even blue. It was more logical to assume the crystal was simply unique rather then being “changed” by good/evil deeds. Not everything about a character has to be linked to a weapon after all; it’s giving a tool too much importance.

In something like KOTOR the colours were coded to Jedi roles but I don’t like that idea either, it’s like being given a boring job interview instead of finding a crystal yourself. These days it seems like yellow was used to make Rey seem even more unique (until recent TV shows) but in the past it was used in merchandise because the manufacturers didn’t have the right production art or movie stills yet.

The current narrative is that all mainstream pop culture is bad, not just what falls under the (admittedly large) umbrella of Disney. Actual SW discussion seems to be dead as it once was at its height during the sequel trilogy. For me it became clear when that guy from Collider say he had been “busting his ass as a Star Wars fan” hahah jeez. The traffic those kind of videos got is clearly dead, so it’s just general entertainment for the masses / corporate decision making they dislike. And to be fair a Rey movie isn’t an artistic decision it’s just a branding one. They could do almost anything with the IP but they can’t get (or don’t have faith in) any proper writers apparently.

The heart? Well I mean if you had to pick a character that isn’t dead now…

I see she specifically said Rey Skywalker to really get all the usual suspects riled up.

You guess correctly.

It would probably be a living nightmare like in the Alien 4K.

If you’re going to post on Twitter just do it rather than getting this all way off topic more than it already is. George isn’t ever going to be on there for real so I’m not sure what you’re worried about. The idea is to show solidarity and not let the cause be lost over time, hence a single hashtag that can be found by people on a wide platform. If you want to wax lyrical about anything else start a new thread of your own use any social media of your choice.

It’s unlikely unless someone was in your exact country, region, city etc. at a specific time and date AND had a video recording that they also happen to have kept saved for decades.

JadedSkywalker said:

Still Luke running the Jedi religion and Leia running the government how does that work if the galaxy finds out Vader was their father. How do you prevent something like the first order from happening, which happened in Disney. or how does Luke prevent a student of his or several of them from going dark and upending everything.

Those are good points for development of drama in a film which will never exist.

I think that specific idea would be a slight problem when they get to ROTJ.

Padme is a total cipher. Beyond some lip-service to her role in the Republic collapsing she’s there to give birth and vanish, as the OT dictates. Since the rise of the Empire and the birth of Luke is a given she has no agency in ROTS. Even in the previous films she exists as basic love interest since Anakin has to become evil. She does nothing to act in the face of obvious problems, which would make her have some impact or actual tragedy. A military creation act? That’s good and convenient. Oh wait it’s never mentioned again. Arguably she does a few things in TPM but it’s hardly relevant later. Which is funny because she should have some role in hiding Leia.

It should probably be a case of ‘the road to hell is paved with good intentions’ but instead it comes off as ‘dumb people are too dumb to do anything right’. Clearly the rise of the Empire wasn’t supposed to be the result of arrogance and hubris alone, but everything seems to point to that; especially in all the spin-off material. The clone army is baffling enough but we’re never shown things like an investigation into where Darth Maul came from. Diminished force powers don’t account for the lack of basic thinking.

doubleofive said:

My feeling after years of study is that Lucas doesn’t want to be reminded of work he wasn’t happy with at the time and only reminds him of what he lost. Every movie he swore it was the last and that he and Marcia could settle down after, but by the time RotJ was done, she was gone.

Doesn’t change the fact that it’s film history and should be preserved, but I get his hesitation now.

It’s not spite, it’s regret.

If he feels regret then he should show it and have some respect for the talent he collaborated with during those years. Instead it’s always him vs the studios, a rhetoric he continued during Red Tails period. Nobody gets me, nobody wants to take a risk, nobody understands my true artistic vision, etc. He spent a lot of energy and time and money on the work in the early days but jeez the tortured auteur thing and one standing alone is a sham and everybody knows it. He’s not David Lynch for crying out loud (someone who also had plenty of support from people close to him for a breakthrough 1977 movie).

Because they don’t want to, and because they don’t need to.

They have claimed a stop motion creature would replace the actor in 1977, but Phil Tippet didn’t get instruction on designing Jabba as a ‘Sidney Greenstreet’ type character until later…

It seems like a pointless topic to raise here of all places, but the problems go well beyond ‘improving’ things if that was ever the true intention. Which is probably wasn’t as most of us already know; George knew about producing and fund raising better than anything else, and a theatrical re-release tied with new effects that used Jurassic Park tech to figure out what could be done in The Phantom Menace was making and saving money all at once.

As stated above there are all kinds of conflicting things he’s said over the many decades, keeping him in the limelight and burying real film history. We have so many threads here about this already and the more he talks the more obvious the lie gets, but Joe Public isn’t that discerning. You can’t even look on IMDB without seeing Episode IV: A New Hope right away despite that not being the right name. They don’t list re-releases and re-iterations as separate entities. Film history is basically gone already at this stage.

Those seem to be names from supplementary materials though so you can see the confusion, he’s probably just been deleted as BoShek says.

Assuming that the two guys Piett speaks to when the fleet is in position are “Commander” and “Commander #2” they both have speaking roles. I don’t think there’s any record involved; lots of bit players in ESB and ROTJ have named characters in the credits.

I would have said someone like Sam Niell would be a good fit for Sebastian Shaw in the Clone Wars. But depicting the earlier days of Obi-wan having to train Anakin is tougher, unless they started a prequel trilogy like 1986. Obi-wan would have to be someone like Jared Harris if they did it in the late 90s.