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Originally posted by: garethxxgod
I personally prefer the Special Editions myself but it's definately unfair to want to bury one version of your film because they don't "represent" what you originally wanted to make your films like. I hope the September releases are a step in the right direction. I have no doubt that with the numerous purchases that he will eventually cave and release stand alone OOT DVD's in the future. There are two editions of the "Special Editions", don't you think he'll cave and bring out the OOT? I mean he can't decide if one version of his film is the definitive version or the other. My good friend actually believes George will re-release version after version of the same movies for as long as it makes him money.

Originally posted by: bgx90


They may never decide to do it. Remember that email from Lucasfilms saying that they have no plan to ever do restore the OOT because it's not *sarcastic whiny artist voice* "George's artistic vision." Every time I go over this whole mess in my head, I keep coming back to that line that LFL has drawn in the sand. Sure it may not last, but who knows?

I definitely agree with the "deranged" part, LOL, but I really think he has actual disdain for those of us who prefer the OOT. He can't stand us, because we're the only thing standing in the way of his effectively eliminating the OOT for good, which is what he wants.

I've noticed that too. He seems to take people's preference of the OOT almost as a personal insult.

If he REALLY wanted to please us, he'd do what Spielberg, Cameron, and so many other directors have done- he'd give us BOTH versions of the OT in beautiful, anamorphic DVD transfers, and let US choose which ones we want to watch. I think his pathological desire to relegate the OOT to second-class-citizen status, outweighs even his desire for $$$. (IMO)

Originally posted by: TheSessler

If the only movie of his you've seen is "fear and loathing in Las Vegas", I could understand how you'd come to that conclusion.

But that would require a new transfer. Apparently, they're not willing to do that this time around.

Originally posted by: bgx90
Interesting, but I wonder if he is bating us to see if there is a market or if it's for some other reason. I saw this in a story linked in the interview:



I'm probably being a little paranoid when I say this but it could be that this is part of his plan to eradicate all traces of the OOT. After all, these DVD's will only be sold for three months, so there won't be as many copies of them as there are of old tapes and LD's.

But I would like to believe that Lucas is being sincere when he says he is trying to bate us to see how many people want these films on DVD instead of trying to appease us. It could be that he would re-release a better version later if these sell well. However, it could mean that he's just trying to bate us into buy the SE versions by packaging them with OOT. The fact remains that this is a consumer-provider relationship in a capitalist society which means the provider gets paid for producing a good product, not for testing the water with a low quality product and then deciding based on sales whether or not to give consumers the privilege of paying for a better version of the same product.

After reading that, I am cautiously optimistic that a better version may follow, but I am still discouraged by the fact that LFL is using the "ONE LAST TIME" ploy.

Originally posted by: Paulus
Actually, I must agree with you there.....

Without one the other cannot continue. Only now, after the fans have endured for years in their appreciation of these films they are being royaly screwed by a few execs that want to make vast amounts of dosh for themselves and a talented individual that has started to beleive the hype a bit too much. I think it's time the fans got what they deserved and Lucasfilm finally releases the films that the fans want to see, not what some other people want them to want to see.....

Originally posted by: TheSessler


Catch Me if You Can, and The Aviator? Both fantastic films, IMO.

Somehow GL seems to think that artistic license is more important than what the fans feel. Having bought the the trilogy box set on DVD, I proceeded to watch the documentaries. Here it is clearly stated that if it weren't for the fans making such a big deal of all this before Star Wars was even released, there would have been no incentive for people to go and see this film. Therefore Star Wars is not solely the artistic property of GL but, I would say, that the fans have more rights to decide about the fates of these masterpieces than this genius that seems to have gotten too used to the idea of being called a genius.

Originally posted by: Mielr


Ah, I see. Thank you.

In other words, if George Lucas sees he can make as much money from these bad DVD's, he won't be very inclined to release a set that at least comes up to some sembelance of an industry standard.

Originally posted by: Bossk


"I see death eaters."

Has M. Night Shyamalan lost his goddamn mind? That's the only logical excuse for Lady in the Water, the Philly-based writer/director/egomaniac's convulsive seizure of narcissism that's so nakedly personal—and also so unintentionally, hilariously revealing—watching the movie feels a bit like walking in on your roommate while he's masturbating … to a picture of himself.

Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
The success of releases like the 'Alien Quadrilogy' box set and the anticipation surrounding the 'Blade Runner Ultimate Edition' will not have gone unnoticed at Luca$hFilm.

They know there's a market for special releases of DVDs containing the original cuts and revised cuts. Prestige packages sell well and with a higher price tag. They will want a piece of that.

This will not be the last official Luca$hFilm release of the OOT on SD DVD.

Of course Han would shoot first, otherwise he would have been killed, and that would have sucked.