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- Pirates of the Caribbean Two
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Mike O
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- #227309
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- #227307
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- SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227307/action/topic#227307
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- #227199
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- New director what do you think ?
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Originally posted by: Number20
Not to defend Lucas too much, but it seems like when you start changing directors in a series, it ends up bad. See Batman and Robin, Superman III and Superman IV. Yes, the prequels could of been much better, but they also could of been much, much worse.
Yes, but Tim Burton was replaced by Joel Schumacher. Look what happend when Chris Nolan took over. It is important to have a good director.
Coincidence, I'm sure .
Samurai <-> gunslinger <-> gangster <-> jedi.
Not to defend Lucas too much, but it seems like when you start changing directors in a series, it ends up bad. See Batman and Robin, Superman III and Superman IV. Yes, the prequels could of been much better, but they also could of been much, much worse.
Yes, but Tim Burton was replaced by Joel Schumacher. Look what happend when Chris Nolan took over. It is important to have a good director.
I'm sure it would have been better. I mean, there's already proof. The Empire Strikes Back. Not directed by Lucas. Better. Best.
Coincidence, I'm sure .
Samurai <-> gunslinger <-> gangster <-> jedi.
That's the whole idea behind the Joesph Campbell thing, isn't it?
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227196/action/topic#227196
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- Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
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Originally posted by: Paulus
Well,
Having only just found out about this when us europeans are just being told that these will also be available, I do have some comment on the press release that I read on this very site. It is indeed very insightful into how the american mega-corporations choose to conduct their bussiness.
People don't seem to realise that they are being misled by the PR-departments. Not their fault since PR gets played like a fiddle anyway....
Do we really want to accept that the trilogy that has probably grossed more worldwide than anything ever will never be released in the way that it was meant to be enjoyed. People talk about the artistic rights of George Lucas, which in my humble opinion he wavered when he decided to release Episode I, but he has to accept that it is no longer his vision but a part of our cultural heritage.
Everywhere you go there's always somebody who, in any situation, can make at least a quick reference to Star Wars. I grew up as the generation that only got to see it on tv or video, now we got our moment with the Special Editions.
If only he had stopped there. Would Rembrandt have changed the "Nachtwacht" just because he could make more money by repainting it every few years??? I don't think so... Artistic vision is not to be found in the creator, but in the beholder. It was generally accepted that most artists were only recognized after their deaths, GL shows now what a chaos would have ensued if this had not been so....
In closing, I will leave you a forbidding feeling that sometime in the not too distant future, Lucasfilm ltd. will release an ultimate edition box set comprising of all six movies including the original versions we all loved on their very own discs. Probably even accompanied by an extra disc for a least each trilogy or maybe even one per movie.....
As long as I have my VCR I can enjoy the movie that means something to the arts.....
Paul ( an Englishman from Holland)
Well,
Having only just found out about this when us europeans are just being told that these will also be available, I do have some comment on the press release that I read on this very site. It is indeed very insightful into how the american mega-corporations choose to conduct their bussiness.
People don't seem to realise that they are being misled by the PR-departments. Not their fault since PR gets played like a fiddle anyway....
Do we really want to accept that the trilogy that has probably grossed more worldwide than anything ever will never be released in the way that it was meant to be enjoyed. People talk about the artistic rights of George Lucas, which in my humble opinion he wavered when he decided to release Episode I, but he has to accept that it is no longer his vision but a part of our cultural heritage.
Everywhere you go there's always somebody who, in any situation, can make at least a quick reference to Star Wars. I grew up as the generation that only got to see it on tv or video, now we got our moment with the Special Editions.
If only he had stopped there. Would Rembrandt have changed the "Nachtwacht" just because he could make more money by repainting it every few years??? I don't think so... Artistic vision is not to be found in the creator, but in the beholder. It was generally accepted that most artists were only recognized after their deaths, GL shows now what a chaos would have ensued if this had not been so....
In closing, I will leave you a forbidding feeling that sometime in the not too distant future, Lucasfilm ltd. will release an ultimate edition box set comprising of all six movies including the original versions we all loved on their very own discs. Probably even accompanied by an extra disc for a least each trilogy or maybe even one per movie.....
As long as I have my VCR I can enjoy the movie that means something to the arts.....
Paul ( an Englishman from Holland)
Thanks for joining us sir! And don't worry. This proably isn't the last we'll see of these films on DVD. We'll get a high quality release eventually, possibly soon. I think that the issue is not only Lucas's choice to change things, but his desire to pretend that the original are rough drafts that no longer exist. Even if Leonardo Da Vinci wanted alter the Mona Lisa if he were still with us, the fact the original has been an ispiration to artists for generations would ensure that it would never be lost forever. The same is true of the OOT. Lucas is slowly relenting. We now must wait.
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- New director what do you think ?
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Hey! Episode 6 WAS great! (the other ones I agree with you about, though).
Originally posted by: Darth Richard
If Gary Kurtz would have stayed for Episodes 6, 1, 2, and 3 they would have all been great.
If Gary Kurtz would have stayed for Episodes 6, 1, 2, and 3 they would have all been great.
Hey! Episode 6 WAS great! (the other ones I agree with you about, though).
I must go with Mielr here .
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- SW: R.I.P. - 9/12/06
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It's not your movie, never was, never will be
I never said that it was.
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- #227129
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- The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe: 1979 Animated VS. 2005 Live-Action
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227129/action/topic#227129
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- I hate M. Night Ramalamadingdong!
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227128/action/topic#227128
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227127/action/topic#227127
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- Joss Whedon Is My Master Now
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227126/action/topic#227126
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Did you know he co-wrote Toy Story?
Yes.
I hope his Wonder Woman movie is good.
Did you know he co-wrote Toy Story?
Yes.
I hope his Wonder Woman movie is good.
So do I. I hope it's in the mold of Batman Begins, Superman: The Movie, Superman II, Spider-Man 2, X2, Superman Returns, and the DCAU.
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- #227077
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- Organize 'official' SE DVD "sendback" (to G. Lucas) on this site?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/227077/action/topic#227077
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- #227059
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- $36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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Originally posted by: Mielr
I agree- I've said before that this DVD release is a sign that he's starting to soften. Remember 1995- "ONE LAST TIME!" Well, that wasn't 100% true, now was it? I think eventually the OOT will be PROPERLY released- but probably not for the 30th anniversary. I'm betting it will get a blu-ray or hd-dvd release several years down the line, when one of the formats has caught on.
I think this September DVD release will be HUGE! It's going to blow Fox/Lucas away as to how many people still love and want the OOT. It will just give that much more reason for the OOT to be presented properly in a few years.
Originally posted by: Mike O
A quote from George Lucas himself" "Now we'll find out where people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved version. It will all come out in the end." Plus, this is George Lucas we're talking about here. The man seems to have a genetic inability to release only one version of his films. Remaster OOT discs with 5.1/2.0/mono=more money. I highly, highly, highly doubt that we won't see a high quality release of the films in the future, probably the near future with the 30th anniversary so close at hand. Then, maybe, one Lucas sees that there is a market for the version of his films which the majority of fans actually like, then maybe, at some point before the end of time, we can see a high-quality release of the original release of THX 1138 so that I can finally see the movie.
As stated before though, I don't think this is the last we'll see of these movies on DVD.
A quote from George Lucas himself" "Now we'll find out where people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved version. It will all come out in the end." Plus, this is George Lucas we're talking about here. The man seems to have a genetic inability to release only one version of his films. Remaster OOT discs with 5.1/2.0/mono=more money. I highly, highly, highly doubt that we won't see a high quality release of the films in the future, probably the near future with the 30th anniversary so close at hand. Then, maybe, one Lucas sees that there is a market for the version of his films which the majority of fans actually like, then maybe, at some point before the end of time, we can see a high-quality release of the original release of THX 1138 so that I can finally see the movie.
I agree- I've said before that this DVD release is a sign that he's starting to soften. Remember 1995- "ONE LAST TIME!" Well, that wasn't 100% true, now was it? I think eventually the OOT will be PROPERLY released- but probably not for the 30th anniversary. I'm betting it will get a blu-ray or hd-dvd release several years down the line, when one of the formats has caught on.
I think this September DVD release will be HUGE! It's going to blow Fox/Lucas away as to how many people still love and want the OOT. It will just give that much more reason for the OOT to be presented properly in a few years.
I hope so. But I want to see it on standard DVD as well as HD.
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- #227057
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- I hate M. Night Ramalamadingdong!
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- DVD controversy mentioned on imdb.com
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Originally posted by: Ozkeeper
The comments made there by Lucas in the MTV interview are the most revealing yet for what this release is really about for George. i.e. do they want them so badly they will take a laserdisk, letterboxed transfer as 'bonus material' while paying for another copy of the SE ?
He comes across as a bitter, resentful man.
The comments made there by Lucas in the MTV interview are the most revealing yet for what this release is really about for George. i.e. do they want them so badly they will take a laserdisk, letterboxed transfer as 'bonus material' while paying for another copy of the SE ?
He comes across as a bitter, resentful man.
That's what I though too. LFL's PR stuff (Oh, gee, how fun. I haven't been requesting these version out of novelty value or for my health. It's because I prefer them.) seemed slapped together, but Lucas's comments were far, far more revealing. It's almost as if he takes people's dislike of the SEs as a personal insult.
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- DVD controversy mentioned on imdb.com
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226864/action/topic#226864
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- Addresses and contacts for various media outlets go in here
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Originally posted by: darkhelmet
I agree. If we want to be heard, we need to turn up the volume.
Originally posted by: MielrYou're welcome. It's the shorter letters that have the better chance of actually being read, anyway. I think the key to this is volume- the more letters they receive from us, the better, regardless of how long or short they are. As long as you get your message across....
I agree. If we want to be heard, we need to turn up the volume.
Lucas appears to have been deaf for the past 20 years or so. Now, it seems, that he's gotten a cheap hearing aid. Let's help him get a better one.
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I know someone in contact with uber-producer Jerry Bruckhiemer. Perhaps he could help with Hollywood contacts. I'm going to attempt to attain info on how to contact John Williams soon.
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- SW: R.I.P. - 9/12/06
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They are simply labeled as STAR WARS TRILOGY.
Remember, the originals "don't exist," so that is what Lucas wants. You talk about the power of money (Have you ever seen Steven Sommers's Deep Rising? "If the cash is there, we don't care."). Well, a remastered OOT=money. George Lucas has become many things. Frustrating? Almost unbearably. Inconsistent? Oh yes. Stubborn? To the point of being ridiculous. But stupid? No. You couldn't convince me for a second that he is. The man made 6 1/2 hours of film into a multi-billion dollar franchise. He's a remarkably shrew businessman. Lucas has not said no with this release. He has said maybe. He has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into this, but we've gone from the original versions "not existing" and being "rough drafts" to "Now we'll find out whether people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions. It will all come out in the end. Heck, we're getting mentioned in Clerks II, a major mainstream motion picture. Star Wars, in its original form, meant a lot to people. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even with threat of a mass boycott, I'm betting that the OOT discs will sell well enough. And Lucas will then know. If he and LFL put our a high quailty restored/remastered OOT in crisp anamorphic widescreen with 5.1/2.0/mono sound in an expensive package (like say, the 30th anniversary boxed set that we all pretty much know will come out), that people like me would pay through the nose for it.
The original prints still exist on the internet and on fan-made DVDs. You can't kill Star Wars by not releasing it on DVD. It's grown far beyond that.
Remember, the originals "don't exist," so that is what Lucas wants. You talk about the power of money (Have you ever seen Steven Sommers's Deep Rising? "If the cash is there, we don't care."). Well, a remastered OOT=money. George Lucas has become many things. Frustrating? Almost unbearably. Inconsistent? Oh yes. Stubborn? To the point of being ridiculous. But stupid? No. You couldn't convince me for a second that he is. The man made 6 1/2 hours of film into a multi-billion dollar franchise. He's a remarkably shrew businessman. Lucas has not said no with this release. He has said maybe. He has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into this, but we've gone from the original versions "not existing" and being "rough drafts" to "Now we'll find out whether people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved versions. It will all come out in the end. Heck, we're getting mentioned in Clerks II, a major mainstream motion picture. Star Wars, in its original form, meant a lot to people. You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Even with threat of a mass boycott, I'm betting that the OOT discs will sell well enough. And Lucas will then know. If he and LFL put our a high quailty restored/remastered OOT in crisp anamorphic widescreen with 5.1/2.0/mono sound in an expensive package (like say, the 30th anniversary boxed set that we all pretty much know will come out), that people like me would pay through the nose for it.
The original prints still exist on the internet and on fan-made DVDs. You can't kill Star Wars by not releasing it on DVD. It's grown far beyond that.
Exactly. Lucas is shooting himself in the foot here. "The originals don't exist..." until he needs more money. A substandard release? THX. The best sound. The best picture. He can't have this both ways. The bouns material thing was his loophole, and it hasn't worked. Lucas hasn't said "no" with this release. He's said "maybe." We're gaining ground. Let's not give up now.
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- HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE
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- #226831
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- The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe: 1979 Animated VS. 2005 Live-Action
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226831/action/topic#226831
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- #226755
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- Finally Got Rid of My 2004 DVD's...
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Was it on purpose though?
Was it on purpose though?
What exactly do you mean?
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- Spirited Away
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/226754/action/topic#226754
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Originally posted by: BrikHaus81
Howl's Moving Castle is my favorite of his films with Spirited Away as a close second. Come on guys, the dubs Disney has produced for these films aren't that bad. They are actually quite good. If you go in expecting to hate it, then you will. But next time watch them with an open mind. You may enjoy them!
Howl's Moving Castle is my favorite of his films with Spirited Away as a close second. Come on guys, the dubs Disney has produced for these films aren't that bad. They are actually quite good. If you go in expecting to hate it, then you will. But next time watch them with an open mind. You may enjoy them!
Since we have a choice, it doesn't really matter. And the use of Neil Gaiman to write the English script for Princess Mononoke was a masterstroke.
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- #226747
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- $36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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As stated before though, I don't think this is the last we'll see of these movies on DVD.
A quote from George Lucas himself" "Now we'll find out where people really wanted the original or whether they wanted the improved version. It will all come out in the end." Plus, this is George Lucas we're talking about here. The man seems to have a genetic inability to release only one version of his films. Remaster OOT discs with 5.1/2.0/mono=more money. I highly, highly, highly doubt that we won't see a high quality release of the films in the future, probably the near future with the 30th anniversary so close at hand. Then, maybe, one Lucas sees that there is a market for the version of his films which the majority of fans actually like, then maybe, at some point before the end of time, we can see a high-quality release of the original release of THX 1138 so that I can finally see the movie.