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#230197
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More changes ?
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As long as bother versions are made available in high quality, I have no problem with multiple versions. It's nice to see the different ways that a work can be viewed. And yes, SW, I think that it is all but confirmed that Lucas will change both trilogies for the 30th anniversary archival editions. IF LFL were to go all out and make the 30th anniversary version what it SHOULD be and make multiple versions of the same films available IN HIGH QUALITY like the Blade Runner, Superman, and Alien boxed sets, then I would, without a moment's hesitation, purchase it. Otherwise, I have better things to spend my money on.
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#230196
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Ok, straight up... is this the last time we will ever see the OOT?
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Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle
Mike, the OOT will come again. You have my word.

Why do you think so? How long do you think that we must wait? And thanks, buddy!

I agree fully. I just don't think it will happen any time soon - 10 or 15 years maybe. I also think it will be done after Lucas no longer has control of the franchise.

I thought that you said that you thought that this was the last OOT release we would ever see. You don't like Empire and Jedi, huh? Ah, well. To each his own. And people are forgetting one thing: even if Lucas does surrender the franchise, there's still Rick McCallum.

I feel the exact same way. He's only doing it to himself. I hope he loses quite a bit of revenue due to his complete lack of respect for any of his customers.

Ah, but if he loses revenue, then there will be sufficent reason for him to say that there is no demand for the OOT.

as box set, re: "testing the water" comment


Assuming, of course, that the discs sell well and that Lucas meant what we thought that he meant. If only he were to talk about the release a bit more. We'd be able to gage things better.

2010-2012--both TV series are over and done, the Star Wars well is done and Lucasfilm is about to jump ship to HD format--one last drop from the Star Wars dvd well to be squeezed


That's a long wait.

I can see Lucas living to be a 95 yaer old man with a grey beard down to his feet and long, curly finger and toenails drinking bottles of his own urine while continuing to refuse to release the OT. I fully expect to be 50+ if and when they ever get a proper release. Until then, I have my LD rips.


A negative vote.

The only sign this release gives us is how nothing George Lucas says can be taken seriously.


And there's the rub--we don't know what any of this means.
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#230192
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We're Still Immature Whiners to MSNBC
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I haven't insulted you. I don't see why you're attacking me.


Because he's a troll who has nothing better to do. Don't let it get to you.


Unfortunately, I have let him get to me. I just don't see why he jumped down my throat. I'm a newbie. All I asked was what he meant by his statement. He attacked me. I was just trying to defend myself.
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#229880
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We're Still Immature Whiners to MSNBC
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandy
I guess I'm not the only one.


The only one who what?


Who thinks some fans have done everything in their power to suck the enjoyment out of something that was once fun.






And before you say that "Lucas sucked the enjoyment out of it for me".

Don't bother. You don't like the SE's, fine. Watch the VHS. That wasn't good enough so you wanted the OOT DVD. After years of fanboy "outrage", you're getting that. Only now that's not good enough either. The screen is too small, the sound is different, the title crawl is moving too fast and it's missing the logo, the list goes on and on. And you wonder why people call Star Wars fans "immature whiners" on MSNBC. Go figure.


I never said that Lucas sucked the fun out of anythng. Nor do I wonder why we were called that. It was a joke. The upcoming DVDs do not meet industry DVD standards, or the standards of anything which has been released in the past decade or so. The complains are all perfectly valid. I want to watch the OOT. I also want to show the OOT to my children, and my children's children. I want to be able to display it on the screen in the same high quality of the rest of my DVDs, with booming sound. The screen isn't too small. The transfer is of poor quality. Lucasfilm have admitted this. I'm not trying to suck the fun out of anything. I just want a high-quality copy of three of the most popular and influential movies ever made in their original form. I haven't insulted you. I don't see why you're attacking me. Perhaps if Lucasfilm would put a little time and effort into these DVDs, then there wouldn't be complaints. Tell me, how would you feel if the SEs, which you prefer, were treated this way? Do me a favor and stop say "you." Because you aren't referring to me, but to the OOT fans as a whole, and you are misjudging us. If you visit a variety of other websites, include The Home Theater Forum and The Digital Bits, the latter of which was selected by Entertainment Weekly, a major mainstream American publication as one of the top entertainment news websites, both feel that way. So does Robert A. Harris, who is an expert on film restoration and restored Lawrence of Arabia and Vertigo. He's not a whiny fanboy, and he agrees too. Stop attacking me. I haven't done anything wrong.
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#229851
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Jay?
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We're a popular Star Wars forum? Well, that's something. Why, exactly, does that article exist? Was it from Weekly World News or something (That magazine, by the way, is hysterical. I see it all the time at work. What a quality publication. "T-Rex wreaks havoc in trailer park." I bet Spielberg is going "I told you so.")? Did Jay Murder Rick McCallum too?
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#229790
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229790/action/topic#229790
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Why are you always here to cheer me up, huh Mielr? I was just considering leaving the forum for a while. Maybe I'll stay a bit longer. Thanks . There's just a lot of negativity in this thread, and understandably so. I suppose we should wait and see how the whole thing goes. I just don't want to expect the best and then be disappointed. But, hey, it's only been 2 months since the announcement. I suppose that this process could take years. I need to learn to be patient. Thanks again, Mielr .
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#229671
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229671/action/topic#229671
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Originally posted by: Anchorhead
Originally posted by: Mike O
What makes you so pessimistic?
I'm not pessimistic at all, nor am I depressed - far from it. I'm apathetic. Honestly, I don't care what version Lucas releases, what his motives are, or what he's said about it before now.

Lucas doesn't control how I see Star Wars. When I want to see Star Wars, I put in a bootleg copy(or the XO version when it is available), I push play and I go on an adventure. I don't care about features, menu screens, commentary, documentaries, behind the scenes pieces, interviews, or anything else. I skip that stuff on nearly every DVD I own.

The story is the only thing I'm interested in. The bootlegs are very watchable and future versions will be as well. I can already watch Star Wars the way I want to - I don't care what Lucas does or says. When he gives interviews, or talks about how things were in the 70s and starts with his lying and revisionist history crap - he might as well be burping the alphabet. His words are that meaningless.


I'm just saying that I don't understand why you think that the OOT will never see a proper release and why you are being so negative. I'm not attacking you or anything-quite the contrary-you just caught me off guard and made me really depressed. I do think that there will be a proper OOT release, and hopefully soon. Perhaps we read the signs differently. I'm a romantic. You're very pragmatic. I just wondered why you had such an attitude, especially given Lucas's comments of late. I was wondering why you had scorned so many of the theories popping up here. Again, understand, I mean no offense, and certainly don't want to attack you. I just wondered why you felt the way that you did, rather than more optimistic. There is, of course, a point at which you don't care anymore, but even so, that shouldn't necessarily affect your feeling about the future, should it? I'm just hoping you're wrong, that's all

If he can get enough money out of it he will release anything, no matter what he has said.


I feel that same sort of perverse optimism.
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#229622
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229622/action/topic#229622
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Truthfully, I'm not terribly concerned with it anymore because I honestly don't think it will ever be released. I don't think Lucas is testing the waters, or will have a change of heart, or is waiting for the mega-box set, or will come to his senses, or any of the other theories floating around. This is the only original version he's going to release.


Thanks. That sure makes me feel great . I guess that we should wait and see. What makes you so pessimistic? I think that this attitude has come about because of this announcement and the ComiCon presentation, and other things which have happened lately. But I think there is so much pessimism on this board that it is becoming depressing. Cheer up, Anchorhead. This isn't the end, it's the begining. I feel so much pessimism too, but maybe some good will come of all of this. Lets not lose our hope yet. And by the way, Anchorhead, I must point out something. Lucas has pretty much admitted that he is testing the waters with this release in the MTV interview. Didn't he say that it would never be released? And now its come out. Who's to say that this is the last release. I find your lack of faith disturbing. And incredibly depressing.
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#229603
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death of star wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229603/action/topic#229603
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Originally posted by: skye_solo
I don't think we have much hope. He's probably gonna leave the rights to his kids, and we can all see the great additions they've helped tack onto the saga. N*Stink and JarJar. And Hayden because he was *cute*. HOW cute. Star Wars RIP.


Why is it dead now? Everyone was so willing to fight before. This DVD release is a sign of things to come. Lets not give up now. Everyone here is disheartened, but the mood is too gloomy. It's not over till the fat lady sings. We've still got plenty of fight left. We need the optimism to come back to this board.
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#229601
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Another Form Of Protest?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229601/action/topic#229601
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: Mike O
Lucas is stubborn, inconsistent, and frustrating. But he's not stupid.

Like I mentioned before, I think the press is going to do a lot of our work for us and give us a head start, because any magazine reviewer or movie reviewer worth his/her salt is going to lambaste Lucasfilm for releasing these classic films in such an outdated fashion.


True, but they probably won't care, as they don't seem to care about anything else.

They'll care. "Sound And Vision" mag and "The Perfect Vision" mag will DEFINITELY rake GL over the coals for this. So will any other home theater magazine that reviews new DVD releases, and comments on their picture/sound quality.


I know, what I'm saying is that Lucasfilm will proably say the same thing that they have said to us: these version are rough drafts that don't need to be restored and therefore we are lucky to be getting them at all and that the original trilogy is dead to Lucas. In other words, people will tell them that this release sucks and he'll say, "Yeah, I know. And your point is?"
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#229596
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229596/action/topic#229596
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandy
"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.

a.k.a.

Oh well.

No, a.k.a., there's nothing I can do.

Its not your movie, never was, never will be.

I never said it was. Thanks for reminding me for the 63rd time though.

I really didn't mean to depress you in what I said on the other thread.


I'm an optimist who sees pie in the sky. You just told the truth, and it was hard to hear. It's not your fault. But the battle is not over yet.


64


OK, I get. I never said that the movie was my. Why the heck are you attacking me?

Uhh, that's his signature. It's in every post of his until he changes his signature.


I know. But JR's attitude on this board makes sure that he reminds us of that in every post, even if it wasn't in his signature.
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#229595
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first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"It can't. But we are meant to think it can. "

LOL...Nice one.

Thanks .

What's this I hear in many threads about Hamill and Kurtz ripping on Lucas in the press, is this recent about the dvd's or just about the special edition?


It is about the special edition as a whole, but I think that, with these DVDs, the whole situation has been blown wide open and Lucas is really shooting himself in the foot. Of course, he is so powerful that it doesn't matter, but hopefully, other billionares could pressure him. At this point, I don't know whether to hope or not. The Digital Bits have posted, with help from Robert A. Harris, a series or reasons why LFLs repreated statements that this is the best they can do are, pardon my language, in a word, bullshit. Hammill simply said that the SEs lacked the charm of the originals, but Kurtz really ripped Lucas a new one. Not that I blame him, as he was heavily involved with films that were changed. Both interviews are linked to on this site. I want to think that this release is a sign of things to come and that Lucas is finally softening, what with the simple fact that it is being released and that Lucas really seemed to be aiming to please with the PG-13 ROTS. But with him, I don't know what to think anymore. He doesn't care what anyone thinks, and I don't know if anyone can change his mind. But I hope that I am wrong.