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#237677
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The Film Industry
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237677/action/topic#237677
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Originally posted by: Davis
Which is really a shame. Relegated by who? How does one become the person that relegates? Politics? Being in with the right people?

I don't think they realize how many more people would come to the movies if film actually became an art form again.

People who want to make money. Movies are still an art form and I've seen films that encase the filmmaker's artistic skills in commercial packaging. There is also just such a thing as good commercial filmmaking (James Cameron, Peter Jackson, Steven Speilberg, Chris Nolan, etc.)/ Sadly, the answer to everything seems to be money.

I think Mike nailed it on that one.

Thanks .

Really? I was under the impression that producers can be much more meddling nowadays.


Depends on a lot of things.



Now, quick - who produced Brokeback Mountain?


Great film, BTW. Yes, but notice, that many filmakers like David Lynch, who make works that are, shall we say different, have to find producers or exec producers willing to gamble on their ideas, or find a production partner (i.e., Tarantino and Lawrence Bender) who will work with them. Heck, look at Rick McCallum. Lucas picked him so that RM could pull all the strings to that GL could make the movie that he wanted.
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#237661
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SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237661/action/topic#237661
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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
SUPERMAN 3 WAS A RICHARD PRYOR MOVIE WITH A SUPER HERO.

Sounds about right.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jl/episodes/twilight/p1/12.jpg
SUPERMAN: "Take that, Bryan Singer!"
DARKSEID: "Ow! Wait - Bryan Singer? Who is this 'Bryan Singer' you speak of?"
SUPERMAN: "Oh sorry dude, I was thinking of someone else.

http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/jl/episodes/twilight/p1/13.jpg
WONDER WOMAN: "We know you hate what he did to your new movie, but calm down!"
SUPERMAN: "Bryan... Singer... must... die!"
MARTIAN MANHUNTER: "No my friend! You do not want his death on your hands! And besides, at least you've got a new movie ya ungrateful bastard!"


Not a fan of SR, huh?
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#237660
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Hyperspace: Yep, I Think that Something is DEFINITELY up for '07!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237660/action/topic#237660
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Well, this is not making much sense. Has there been any further info about this? More to the point, what the hell are they talking about?

proving once AGAIN that a year can't go by where Luca$ needs to rape the fans wallets

Have they put out a DVD product per year since 01?

Even though it says the above was written in March 10, 2006 ('07 info on May 10), I think it is highly, HIGHLY suspect that they kept the March update around and linked it with the more recent '07 one. Sure it can be argued that the sentence above is talking about the 09/12 release, but LFL had more than enough time to update since that announcement. Since they have not, I say they didn't because there are even more releases and "rarities" on the way.


Wishful thinking? I don't know. Judging by the bonus disc-less release, it takes a bit more than new changes to get the fans excited, and I think that most people have had it and just want to own a good release. I think this now comes down to how far LFL are willing to go. Will the 30th anniversary boxed set sell well? Sure, it has the Star Wars name attached to it. But will it sell really, really well? Only if it has something to entice the fansbase in it. The question is whether or not Lucas is willing to put aside his ego and if LFL have the balls to put their money where their mouths are. Pardon my bluntness.
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#237655
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www.dvdempire.com O-OT pre-orders rankings (updated)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237655/action/topic#237655
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What I hope was that he meant that he was testing the waters with this release to see if there would be enought demand to release a remastered OOT on the 30th anniversary boxed set. As I've said, I think that you are correct and that the answer is no.

Oh, and as of 08/23/06 the discs are selling better, and SW is now in the top 100. It's starting to look like these discs will not have the earth-shattering sales that we all hoped for, but will nonetheless set moderately well.
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#237653
Topic
How George Lucas created the O-OT fanbase...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237653/action/topic#237653
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Originally posted by: CO
If Lucas would have just left the OT alone before releasing the PT, or made the SE just a one time thing in '97 just to give a different spin on the movies, but stop at there. If the PT existed now, and the O-OT were released as the real 04 DVD versions, and then this huge saga boxset in 2007 with the O-OT + PT, then I believe many fans, even though not huge fans of the PT, would not have a problem being a saga fan of all 6 movies.


In my case, all he had to have done was make the original movies available, and then I would have at least remained a tepid fan of his beloved "saga." Now his vision represents the very thing that is completely ruining Star Wars and I want nothing to do with it. To hell with his contradictions and his changes.

I just read an interview of his where he said the original Star Wars was only 25% of what he wanted. If that's true, why should he go back and fuck up an already good film with his additions? He should have just made all the movies brand new and not bothered to change the old. Then his Saga would truly tie together. Though he doesn't like Star Wars enough for that kind of commitment I'd guess. That would be too much work for our lethargic filmaker.

Otherwise, you make a good point about how Lucas is now stuck in a problem of his own making. If he turns off a lot of his older fans with his half-assed approach to absolutely everything, then that's the way it will be. Star Wars will become some cheap kiddy franchise that most people will grow out of by the time they're 20 and that's all it will ever be from then on. Then Star Wars will die unless preservationists who know the truth about the series have some say in the matter.


If only for its historical importance, I don't think that Star Wars will ever die. The OOT is more than good enough to speak for itself.

And Mr. Bungle, I think and hope that you are wrong.
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#237648
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It has begun: StarWars.com to celebrate original films
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237648/action/topic#237648
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The hypocracy of it all. The Citizen Kane analogy is an interesting one. You'd think that by now LFL would have relalized that they have two marketing cash cows: the "saga" and the OOT. More money for you'll since you've basically got nine films to market instead of just six. But what do I know?

Read about what life was like in 1977, 1980, and 1983


It doubtlessly included better versions of the trilogy than we have now are are getting in September.
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#236697
Topic
Hyperspace: Yep, I Think that Something is DEFINITELY up for '07!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236697/action/topic#236697
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
I rarely go to Star Wars' official site but I figured I would pop over there to see if there is anything new about the 09/12 release. There on the homepage you see the following:

Hyperspace Reveals the Secrets of Star Wars 07
May 10, 2006

Fans are already primed to make next year a Star Wars year to remember. 2007 marks the 30th anniversary of the beloved saga, and already there are whispers of possible events that will commemorate that milestone. But what hasn't yet been talked about is the biggest entertainment event of the year: a major addition to the Star Wars mythos.

It begins now. As with the earliest glimpses of Episode III, Hyperspace will be the first place to get a look at the secrets 2007 holds. A new image series, rich with explosive and intriguing concept art, is your first look at next year's biggest Star Wars surprise. Hyperspace members, click here to see it.

You can see it only in Hyperspace, and this is just the start. If you're not yet a member of Hyperspace: The Official Star Wars Fan Club, then sign up today!


And then on this page the 6th bullet point:

Exclusive new videos, including glimpses into forthcoming Star Wars DVD releases and other rarities unearthed from the Lucasfilm archives.

Even though it says the above was written in March 10, 2006 ('07 info on May 10), I think it is highly, HIGHLY suspect that they kept the March update around and linked it with the more recent '07 one. Sure it can be argued that the sentence above is talking about the 09/12 release, but LFL had more than enough time to update since that announcement. Since they have not, I say they didn't because there are even more releases and "rarities" on the way.

Upcoming DVD releaes? But I thought that this one was George's "original vision." As I've stated on numerous occasions, I firmly believe that Lucas is anything but stupid, and that he knows releasing a remastered OOT on the boxed set would mean that people like me would pay through the nose to get it. He's one of the most brilliant businessmen that the earth has ever known. The Lucasfilm archives my...more like "Now that we have seen that there is demand for a remastered OOT we might consider it."

Which brings us to the once again catch 22. Lucas wants to see if the OUT DVD's sell. If they don't, then there's no reason to include them in the rumored archival edition of the saga. If of course they do sell well, then he'll more than likely include an anamorphic and restored transfer within the archival edition box set, proving once AGAIN that a year can't go by where Luca$ needs to rape the fans wallets.

I was thinking that too, but it sounds too good to be true. Then there is the case of these DVDs. Judging from what figures are looking like now, it appears that sales will be good, but not great. I think that now, our best option appears to be prayer.

If LFL would release the product that I want to buy I wouldn't hesitate for a microsecond to purchase it.

The fact of the matter is, Lucasfilm is aware of the rabid fan preservation community and this is their way of stemming the tide, which, as we all know, won't work.

If this release had been a high-quality release, then it would have. This release seems to have done the exact opposite of what Lucas wanted, in that instead of ending the whole situation (which it would have done had these DVD releaes not sucked), it's blown the doors open on the whole situation.

The sad thing is many years ago, I would always be hyped to hear anything newsworthy of SW, via the movies, video release. Now it just comes down to one question: Does it contain a remastered O-OT version in the boxset? If the answer is no, then I don't care George.


Sadly, I'm coming to agree. The most pervese part is, if there is a remasted OOT in it, then LFL stand to regain me as a fan and make more money, but until such a time, I am done with Star Wars.

One can hope.


Yes, we can. And hope springs eternal, hopefully.

Well, when compared directly to the 70mm film cels I've collected over the years, the DE/Faces colors are much more accurate that the '04 colors.


Mightn't that be because Lowry was rushed and given thirty days to do the work instead of what Spielberg did, which was actually take a little time and effort on the Indiana Jones boxed set. Not only does the 04 set not contain the Star Wars movies like it advertises, but the so-called remaster was rushed. If you want that to be the definitive version George, then make it the definitve version.

The special "surprise" is probably just that tv series.


That what I figured too, but why would that be in the archives?
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#236688
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LOL Look at How They Try to Explain Away Continuity Problems!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236688/action/topic#236688
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Originally posted by: BadAssKeith
This is Perfect material to use for some of my evidence for my lawsuit! Thank you very much!!!

You're still going through with your lawsuit then? Call Sam! In all seriousness, if you really want to go through with it, go right ahead. I look forward to seeing this on the news someday soon.

It's his story, there can be as many holes in it as he wants.


Alas, you are correct.
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#236208
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DVD WRITING CAMPAIGN - WEEK ONE - "Entertainment Weekly"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236208/action/topic#236208
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OK, as my computer has crashed and I'm operating from a library, I need to type much info in this post. First off, my idea as it originally stood was get Jay to drop a line to the 75,000+ people who signed the petition, figuring that that many e-mails would get some attention. I PMed him, but he hasn't said anything on the board. As I'm a newbie, I really don't want to bother him further, but if anyone here knows him well, then drop him a line. Strength in numbers. Second, we might just have to Shawshank Redemption this. We can't be ignored forever, can we? Third, one more important point. Lucasfilm will continue to spout their BS stating that the films have been restored on the 2004 DVD boxed set. We need to make it abundantly clear that no one is denying Lucas his original vision or the SEs, but that we just want high quality copies of the original versions for ourselves. It's too bad Pauline Kael isn't still alive. She may have hated the Star Wars trilogy, but can you even imagine what she'd do if Welles altered Citizen Kane. How about if someone went to make The Wizard of Oz more politically correct? These are the necessary points. By the way, for pure fanboy pleasure, one could mention tha this is not a new phemenon and that everything from the music replacement on the Northern Exposure and Quantum Leap DVDs to Spielberg's strange obsession with Close Encounters. Imagine it now gang, on the cover of EW or Time: "Jay Sylvester and originaltrilogy.com. The Battle Over Star Wars: How Far Can Revisionist History Go?" And we must remind them that, if they want more info, they should contact Jay. All right then, in the words of The Wild Bunch, "Lets go." Sticky, anyone?
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#235801
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My two cousins are becoming OOT fanatics
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/235801/action/topic#235801
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
The version I gave them was Dark Jedi's Widescreen FACES set. I cloned it with my DVD burner.


Ooooh! Dark Jedi's FACES set! Almost as good as his first film.....




....




Oh wait. He's a fanboy with a DVD burner. Nevermind.


Dark Jedi never claimed to have made a film. The FACES set was directed by George Lucas, Irvin Kershner, and Richard Marquand. I don't recall Dark Jedi, or anyone else on these forums, ever claiming that they made the films. Except Geroge Lucas, of course, as he apparently did all of the work and Kershner, Kurtz, Hamill, Marquand, Ford, Fisher, and the thousand of craftsman and technicians who's work no longer exists because Lucas feels that it is unimportant were just figureheads. But no one on these forums, to the best of my knowledge, has ever claimed that they made the films. I certainly haven't. I fail to see why not having made them means that we cannot have high quality releases of them as they were originally released.