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#246307
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First Impressions of the OOT ...
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Originally posted by: lord3vil
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: lord3vil
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
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troll

He's a troll because he gives an opinion that is different from yours.

Why do you think people who express differing opinions are trolls? I simply noticed that his response to me consisted mostly of unsubstantiated and unreasonable claims rather than opinions, which is why I didn't bother with it.


Um, no. People are trolls when they attack members of the forums and insult the site and its members. Gomer is simply offering a different opinion. That doesn't make him a troll.
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#246306
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Lucasfilm to sell Physical Effects Unit
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246306/action/topic#246306
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I think Lucas is just getting the companies to be able to work on their own so he can go off into the pasture so to speak.

They used more models in any one of the prequel films than they used in the entire classic trilogy combined, and they will still be the top choice for ILM, so in that regards not a whole lot will change really.

So many act like CG is so easy to spot, but a lot of the times I see them pointing to these miniatures and models and real photographic elements.

I like how the original article made it out like LOTR used mostly models and Lucas uses mostly CG. As far as I can tell they are both running about neck and neck with their huge summer blockbusters in regards to their use of both models and CG.


I don't think that this can be all Lucas, I really don't. He owns ILM, but don't others run it?

Am *I* the ONLY person who had to read this post several times and STILL could only think... oh nevermind.


I don't wanna know, I don't wanna know, I don't wanna know....
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#246087
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246087/action/topic#246087
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Everyone, believe what you want to believe, but why attack Raul?


Cuz now is not the time to be playing games with us.....we've been waiting for the OOT forever. We finally got it in non-anamorphic which was already a blow, we knew the quality was going to pretty not good, which is another blow. We don't need some little punk coming in here and starting crap like this, telling us that it's coming out next year and pulling our collective chains like that.


Well, it might be. I doubt it, but one never knows. Until LFL makes an offical announcement ("Hell has frozen over") we won't know. I don't know why he'd come and just pull our chains.
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#246076
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First Impressions of the OOT ...
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Originally posted by: zombie84
I'm actually concerned for future version of the much, much, much superior Theatrical Cut of Apocalypse Now, since the original negative has been altered for Redux. I guess they could just look at the records and re-construct it for a new O-neg scan but I'm afraid they'll be too lazy and just use an IP or regular print for future releases.

And Go-mer, ignorance is bliss as they say. The truth hurts sometimes but living in denial just lets things get worse. If you want to change the world for the better then you have to realise that it sucks and then strive to improve it. Its called the progression of civilisation and its why humanity is the most advanced species in the known universe.


Yes, but Coppola hasn't gone on a fan-hating spree to destroy the original negative either. I'm sure that if someone offered to do the work, he'd take it. Plus, as I understand it, the theatrical DVD looks reasonably good. I ought to rent it. The film is something of an oddity to me. I wonder if we'll ever see a legal release of the Rough Cut or Heart of Darkness: A Filmaker's Apocalypse?
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#246070
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/246070/action/topic#246070
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This particular subject has run it's course.

It will have run its course when we have proper OOT DVD release. That may be next year, or it may be decades from now. Who knows? And easy guys.

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I honestly though this September 12th release would be enough to keep everyone from complaining.

But I was wrong about that too.

Someone somewhere would complain about Beru's voice being different than that "magical opening night" they remembered.

Bet on it.


Lucasfilm could try including both versions of Beru's voice. That might help. In any case, anamorphic transfers are not asking a lot. If these discs had been good anamorphic transfers, then there would have, of course, still been legitimate complaints, such as the multiple audio tracks, but it would have at least met industry standards. That's right, Star Wars fans will always have criticisms. But you know what? Lucas decided to create the SEs and the PT. That's fine. But these are the consequence of attempting to bury the originals. He's brought this on himself.
The only one really effected in any detrimental way by the people who always complain about Star Wars are the complainers themselves.

Lucas could possibly put a couple audio tracks on there, but there there would be other things to compalin about that I haven't even conceived yet. It's like playing whack a mole, and a not very fun game of whack a mole at that.

It's no skin off his back if he can't please everyone on the planet. As long as he pleases more than his fair share, he's golden.


He's rich. He's golden if he pleases nobody. My point is that it isn't the fans' fault that he decided to release so many version of the films. He's brought this on himself. No there'll be backlash until he gives us a proper release.

And as for Raul? If he's right, great. If he isn't right, I hope that Jay gets that new petition up soon, so that he fight can continue. I hope he's right, of course. And any proof would be appreciated, but at this point, it just seems too good to be true. It'd make sense, but LFL haven't done anything that makes sense for a long time now. I'd love to believe it, I just don't want to get my hopes up.
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#245984
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245984/action/topic#245984
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I honestly though this September 12th release would be enough to keep everyone from complaining.

But I was wrong about that too.

Someone somewhere would complain about Beru's voice being different than that "magical opening night" they remembered.

Bet on it.


Lucasfilm could try including both versions of Beru's voice. That might help. In any case, anamorphic transfers are not asking a lot. If these discs had been good anamorphic transfers, then there would have, of course, still been legitimate complaints, such as the multiple audio tracks, but it would have at least met industry standards. That's right, Star Wars fans will always have criticisms. But you know what? Lucas decided to create the SEs and the PT. That's fine. But these are the consequence of attempting to bury the originals. He's brought this on himself.
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#245957
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245957/action/topic#245957
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When the anamorphic digital remasters of the OOT come out people are going to find something else to complain about. It doesn't matter we will find out next year. As a first time DVD release for the OOT this isn't bad. Next year will be the big one.


Assuming that they do come out. I keep hearing that "Fans will always find something new to complain about," and I tire of it. Lucasfilm know exactly what fans want. They just keep feeding it to us bit by bit. If a DVD release of the OOT came out that was restored and remastered, had the original audio tracks, and did not have the video altered in any way, then what would we have tom complain about. If the release only contains the 93 mix, then fans have a right to complain. LFL know how to do propr DVD release. They just won't.
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#245949
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"BUT ANAMORPHIC ENHANCEMENT ALTERS THE MOVIES!!!"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245949/action/topic#245949
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Lucas can't live forever.

Yes, but that though has always struck me as so morbid. I mean, I'd like to get the DVDs I want, but why would it have to imvolve the death of a human being?

Originally posted by: Raul2106
Everybody is AWARE of the fact that for Lucas it's all a marketing game. I believe we will have anamamorphic releases of the OOT with the 30th Anniversary. Just relax people. This "substandard product" as some of you refer to it is financing the restoration of your anamorphic remastered vision of perfection!


I wish.
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#245907
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Ideas for the inevitable Super-Mega-Special-Ultimate 2007 Boxset
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245907/action/topic#245907
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I've heard that there are some rumbling over at HTF that the OOT will not be in the boxed set, which would disappoint but not surprise me. Anyone else heard?

I think everyone's screaming over badly placed subtitles. They could've been made 16:9 safe, but they weren't.


The discs weren't 16:9, so that's probably what LFL was thinking.
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#245903
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IMPORTANT! ATTENTION FANS OF DISNEY'S GARGOYLES AND ANIMATION
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245903/action/topic#245903
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I think that it would make them a little more, because the last set would make more people buy the first two. I mean, I'd fully understand if fans were unreasonably asking Disney to make another season or somesuch. But to release the DVDs of existing episodes? That's not asking much. For all interested parties, there's a big attempt over at Toonzone to change things. I really do think that we could see the final release if we fight har enough.
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#245897
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How Lucas can satisfy the fans.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245897/action/topic#245897
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
Take ANY movie made from 1970-1990. Look at the dvd treatment of said movie if it was released in the last five years. That'll do it.


Exactly man!!!

Attack Of The Killer Tomatos has a better DVD release than Star Wars. If that isn't ass backwards, I don't know what is!!!


See, here's the thing. To Lucas, the SEs are the films. So in his eyes, they have gotten proper treatment. Nevermind the color-changing lightsabers and the "deliberate creative decisions" that exist in the sound mix.
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#245896
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Do you REALLY think there will be remastered versions of the OOT or whatever? I don't.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245896/action/topic#245896
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: Knightmessenger

Back to the Future trilogy (1985, 89, 90) listen to the Q & A audio on film one near the end, it's asked if any visibly wires were erased.

Which is what I love about that set. No attempt to digitally alter anything. Wires are all there. Original miniatures are still used. "To Be Continued..." taken out. Trailer for Part III in there. There is nothing about that set that isn't perfect! And there is nothing about that set that reeks of revisionist history. Those are the movies. The end. And when Universal misframed them, they didn't claim it was a deliberate creative decision. They did a free recall and replacement. It might have been a bit expensive and troublesome for them, but it sure made me respect them a lot more than I respect Lucas and Fox.


They made a really, really big mistake, but at least the honed up to and did something about it other than send out a form response.

Hear hear!! Couldn't have said it better myself! Why can't people realize that this issue is NO different than if someone had colorized Casablanca for a DVD release and said, "Sorry folks, but this represents the vision of the original filmmakers and the B&W version is now obsolete." It's really that simple!!


I've tried that argument, but the answer I always get is, "They're his movies, so he can do whatever he wants to them." I wonder what Marquand, Kershner, Kurtz, and the gang think of that.