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#259380
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The Gaffer Tape Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259380/action/topic#259380
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Hmm. Let's test this theory...

I am stuffing six bunnies into each of my nostrils! I hereby declare this as "cool." In order to be cool like me, which all of you want to be, I command you to follow my lead and start BUNNY STUFFING!


LOL!! I feel sorry for the bunnies. Are they on board with this stuffing into the nose?
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#259379
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259379/action/topic#259379
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Here are some good Star Wars percentages not pulled completely out of fanboy ass.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=197859


Now to say that that has no validity, but many critics panned The Shawshank Redemption, It's A Wonderful Life, andmany other classic films on their initial release. Similarly, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie did great box office at the time retrospectively and look at the critical concensus now. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, I'm just pointing it out.
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#259292
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259292/action/topic#259292
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I just don't get it. Plenty of things that artists came up with for SW was abandoned entirely before the final cut, yet just because you happened to see this stuff released originally, suddenly it's a huge insult to the artist for the director to make artistic decisions?

They knew that their work would not be included in the first place. That is different from having it replaced. But as I said, as we do not know anything about Peterson, this discussion is pointless.

Is anyone on this board near Santa Monica? This is a great opportunity for a little protest outside the theater. Nothing scary- just some fans in costumes with signs.


That'd be great, sans the the costumes. Civil proesting. Not that it would make a difference.
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#259287
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259287/action/topic#259287
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Maybe if Lorne Peterson was actually upset about the SE's I could see the outrage. But his work is still there in the SE's.

He wasn't slighted in any way, and the presence of CG does not take away from his work on the film.

Glad you are back Darth_Evil.


Some of his work is still I highly doubt that all of it is. We don't know if he's upset or not. So assumptions both sides are making are unsubstantiated.
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#259117
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259117/action/topic#259117
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Originally posted by: BeeJay
Originally posted by: zombie84
In a latest bit of bullshit OOT-suppression, the American Cinemateque is screening Star Wars with Lorne Peterson, who was one of the chief modelmakers on the film and was responsible for many of the incredible craftsmanship and innovations the films created. Peterson will introduce the film and then be signing autographs for his new book on the ILM Modelshop, tracing the renowned modelshops early days in the 1970's and 80's.

But the Special Edition is being screened. Roughly 80% of the original groundbreaking, Oscar-winning modelwork is deleted.


Does this not bother anyone?

I am guessing the reason is because Lucasfilm has recalled all prints of the original 1977 ANH and does not lend out the OOT anymore--only the SE prints may be screened. I remember a similar incident where a university wanted to screen the film as part of its 1970's cinema classics class and only were offered the 1997 SE. The OOT dies a little once more.


If Lucas ever truly wanted to supress the OOT, then he wouldn't have allowed the recent release of it like he did in early September of this year.

The OOT we love is still there and going strong. The 1997 Special Editions I actually somewhat liked, while at the same time I don't want the OOT to be destroyed. It's not. It's still here.


For now.
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#259116
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259116/action/topic#259116
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Originally posted by: Number20
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I just hope Peterson doesn't stand idly by and not mention it. I would love for there to be some instances where he points out, "Well, my work was in this shot, but it has since been removed. I remember I had this really cool model that the team loved and had to get in there... it's been replaced by computer graphics now." Best way to spread the word.


This would be pretty funny, actually. Too bad I doubt that they would do this if there was a chance he would badmouth the SE. They probably have him paid off to talk about how his models were good for 1977, but how much more impressive the CGI of today is. Still, I think this would be interesting to see. What is this, exactly? A program on TV? A live event? Will it be recorded in any way and perserved? It would be great to have.




Perhaps, but it will force someone to admit that changes were made. And as we don't know the guy, neither argument about his beliefs would be valide.
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#259026
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See, George, This is how it's done ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259026/action/topic#259026
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Originally posted by: casualimp
I bought the ultimate set today and will have to call the number as Superman III isn't the deluxe edition. However, the english 2.0 track is there on disc one of Superman the movie. Did I misread or was the error that it wasn't present at all on the disc or that it was the wrong track? I'm sure Warner will replace them both when I call again (tried today, they're way too busy).


The 2.0 mix was a downmix of the 5.1 mix, rather than the ORIGINAL 2.0 which will be on the corrected disc.
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#259025
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259025/action/topic#259025
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I just hope Peterson doesn't stand idly by and not mention it. I would love for there to be some instances where he points out, "Well, my work was in this shot, but it has since been removed. I remember I had this really cool model that the team loved and had to get in there... it's been replaced by computer graphics now." Best way to spread the word.

I was thinking along similar lines to Gaf. Perhaps Lorne will be using this opportunity to "spread the word".


I hope and wish so, but I doubt that it would matter anyways.
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#258823
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Where do I go from here as a SW fan?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258823/action/topic#258823
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Vigo
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Why is everything an "attack on the fans"? Seriously where do people come up with this stuff? Like he's twirling his handlebar mustace as he watches people walk out of Best Buy.


You mistunderstand me. There is a difference between "attack on the fans" and "caring shit about the fans". The former one implies emotional involvement, while the latter does not. I don´t sense any emotional involvement towards the fans regarding the 2004SE and the OOT release. Only marketing.


I guess this goes back to the percentage of fans that care about not having the OOT. Personally I don't think it was that high... if it was, then the last release would've sold better.


I thought that it did sell well. It spent some time in Amazon.com's top ten. There is a significant number of individuals who want the OOT. Not everyone in the world, certainly, but many, many people.
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#258819
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See, George, This is how it's done ...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258819/action/topic#258819
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Especially after the Tom and Jerry fiaso. It took MAJOR balls on the part of WB to admit to and fix their mistake, and they deserve full credit for it.

An organization like this should have caught these errors before they were sold, and there's simply no excuse for such shoddy quality management. I'm very releived they're taking a step to rectify the mistake, but it's not the "right thing" in my book.

True, but they also could have ignored the problem completely. Instead they are fixing it. They deserve credit for that, even if the mistake should not have happened.

As far as I'm concerned, the right thing would be to recall the discs and issue corrected ones to retailers.


I'd imagine that eventually they will.

To this day, I have never purchased the Back to the Future set because I don't think it's my responsiblity to purchase a DVD, then call to have a replacement sent, and then wait for that replacement to arrive. Universal has, as far as I know, never issued corrected sets to retailers.


They did. I own them. Again, at least Universal admitted to the mistake and listen to criticism. No, it houldn't have happened. But the did go out of their way to fix it.
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#258663
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258663/action/topic#258663
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http://thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents
http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1164265935
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news06/061124e.php

There is still hope. Those interested in politely making their feelings on the issue are advised to check out this contact list: http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1164129588 (Why can't I get the blasted hyperlinks to work?). Flaming them with angry letters won't help, as I'm sure everyone here knows, but some intelligent constructive criticism would be good, and I know that TZers are up to it. Just FYI, in case anyone is interested. Cross your fingers. I'm not going to get my hopes up, but there's always a chance.
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#258655
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258655/action/topic#258655
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Originally posted by: Rikter
SWEET!!! I disliked the movies he made of the some of greatest books ever (IMHO that is!!) I would hate to see the Hobbit ruined in the same manner.



Well, so of us are Jackson fans, so watch it . Besides, it's odds on that they'd pick someone worse.

Ratner? Sadly, it's very possible.

And Beorn, Tiptp? Well, I'd love it if he was included, but like Bombadil, I'd understand if he had to go for pacing reasons.

If McKellan and the gang stick to their guns and that article is right and Jackson does come back and make a killer Hobbit movie, I'd be incredibly happy, but I'm not holding my breath. Still, miracles happen, so we can always hope.