Mike O

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Post: #261066
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261066/action/topic#261066
Time: 11-Dec-2006 5:56 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandyAnd Mike O, I'm not attacking anyone... I'm just debating.

I'd love a good version as well.

Then you're fine by me. I just wonder if we'll ever get one. Hasn't the September DVD set sold reasonably well? I mean it was in Amazon.com's top ten for a while. I can't see LFL saying that there's no market for it. Not quite as big a market as some other things perhaps, but I'd imagine that there's a considerably large group of people who'd pay for a restored OOT DVD set. I don't imagine that LFL is financially hurting from this set

. I just wonder if it'll come out while Lucas is alive, or while I am alive.

Post: #261060
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261060/action/topic#261060
Time: 11-Dec-2006 5:32 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandyThe OOT is on DVD and, if it's as in demand as it's made out to be around SW message boards, it'll be available once again with the proper aspect ratios, etc... if LFL has proved anything its that they'll release anything as long as there is a demand for it.

If the OOT comes out restored, then all will be fine

. I hope that you are correct, though I wonder when? Really, that's all I want. I certainly don't hate Lucas. I'm sure he's a very nice man, and I wish him a long, happy, healthy life. I just want the OOT on a high-quality DVD so that I can watch it myself. That's all. Please don't attack me

Post: #261059
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261059/action/topic#261059
Time: 11-Dec-2006 5:24 PM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Maybe Lorne Peterson doesn't see digital enhancement as an insult to modelmakers.

Maybe he is mature enough to realize that it's just another tool to make movie magic with, and doesn't concern himself with this idea that some effects are insulting to other kinds of effects.

I think it's foolish of us to focus on one too strongly, because we don't knnow.

Post: #260794
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260794/action/topic#260794
Time: 8-Dec-2006 4:32 PM

Post: #260714
Topic: MTV Interview and New Favorite Movie
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260714/action/topic#260714
Time: 7-Dec-2006 10:03 PM

Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
Nope. Two scenes missing. Missing since '78. Never seen since. I don't even know if there's a print or negative still existing.

That's what I was thinking. Maybe they were destroyed when he recompiled the new cut?

Post: #260692
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260692/action/topic#260692
Time: 7-Dec-2006 6:22 PM

I think that Lucas is good at structring things, as Raiders and ESB show. I think that his problems lie with dialogue and directing actors.

Post: #260691
Topic: MTV Interview and New Favorite Movie
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260691/action/topic#260691
Time: 7-Dec-2006 6:21 PM

Originally posted by: ZigFried
What George Lucas said at his MTV interview, about people wanting the SE or the OOT and it all turning out in the end...

I wonder if that statement of his means anything.

Post: #260661
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260661/action/topic#260661
Time: 7-Dec-2006 3:24 PM

Post: #259494
Topic: New Librarian
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259494/action/topic#259494
Time: 30-Nov-2006 11:44 PM

If he is, see if he can get us some connections

Post: #259420
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259420/action/topic#259420
Time: 30-Nov-2006 6:21 PM

That doesn't prove our POVs, but it does make one think.

Post: #259397
Topic: Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259397/action/topic#259397
Time: 30-Nov-2006 4:00 PM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
I just checked, and that writing is still in there.

It didn't go anywhere.

Not yet. But Lucas is also intent on overdubbing dialogue in various scenes, and as he releases about one special edition per year, it may be gone eventually.

Post: #259385
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259385/action/topic#259385
Time: 30-Nov-2006 3:34 PM

Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: Guy Caballero
A Lorne Petersen quote from 2005:

“It’s almost unimaginable to think of the (original) Star Wars films sitting somewhere and rotting within your own lifetime,” he said.
He sounds thrilled.

Do you have source? If you do, then that is interesting.

To paraphrase a line from Kurosawa: "Do-you-have-a-source?"

Post: #259383
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259383/action/topic#259383
Time: 30-Nov-2006 3:27 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandy

Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: JediRandy
Here are some good Star Wars percentages not pulled completely out of fanboy ass.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=197859

Now to say that that has no validity, but many critics panned The Shawshank Redemption, It's A Wonderful Life, andmany other classic films on their initial release. Similarly, Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers: The Movie did great box office at the time retrospectively and look at the critical concensus now. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, I'm just pointing it out.

I just pulled a random percentage WITH a source... as opposed to pulling a random percentage from thin air.

OK. I applaud you for it. Unfortunately, it is of no use to me

Post: #259380
Topic: The Gaffer Tape Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259380/action/topic#259380
Time: 30-Nov-2006 3:24 PM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Hmm. Let's test this theory...

I am stuffing six bunnies into each of my nostrils! I hereby declare this as "cool." In order to be cool like me, which all of you want to be, I command you to follow my lead and start BUNNY STUFFING!

LOL!! I feel sorry for the bunnies. Are they on board with this stuffing into the nose?

Post: #259379
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259379/action/topic#259379
Time: 30-Nov-2006 3:23 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandy
Here are some good Star Wars percentages not pulled completely out of fanboy ass.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=197859

Post: #259360
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259360/action/topic#259360
Time: 30-Nov-2006 2:26 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandy

Originally posted by: Nanner Split
The SE is really gay. I mean, some bits of it are okay, but most of the new stuff is just plain fruity!

That was a highly intelligent comment. Good job.

I think it was a joke.

Post: #259359
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259359/action/topic#259359
Time: 30-Nov-2006 2:25 PM

Do you have source? If you do, then that is interesting.

Post: #259292
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259292/action/topic#259292
Time: 30-Nov-2006 10:39 AM

I just don't get it. Plenty of things that artists came up with for SW was abandoned entirely before the final cut, yet just because you happened to see this stuff released originally, suddenly it's a huge insult to the artist for the director to make artistic decisions?

They knew that their work would not be included in the first place. That is different from having it replaced. But as I said, as we do not know anything about Peterson, this discussion is pointless.

Is anyone on this board near Santa Monica? This is a great opportunity for a little protest outside the theater. Nothing scary- just some fans in costumes with signs.

That'd be great, sans the the costumes. Civil proesting. Not that it would make a difference.

Post: #259288
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259288/action/topic#259288
Time: 30-Nov-2006 10:33 AM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Okay I'm listening. Lay it on me.

Tell me all about his work that was slighted and dig something up where he is saying he is less than happy about the SE's.

Dig up something that prove the contrary. Like a I said, we don't know either way.

Post: #259287
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259287/action/topic#259287
Time: 30-Nov-2006 10:33 AM

Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Maybe if Lorne Peterson was actually upset about the SE's I could see the outrage. But his work is still there in the SE's.

He wasn't slighted in any way, and the presence of CG does not take away from his work on the film.

Glad you are back Darth_Evil.

Some of his work is still I highly doubt that all of it is. We don't know if he's upset or not. So assumptions both sides are making are unsubstantiated.

Post: #259117
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259117/action/topic#259117
Time: 29-Nov-2006 4:18 PM

Originally posted by: BeeJay

Originally posted by: zombie84
In a latest bit of bullshit OOT-suppression, the American Cinemateque is screening Star Wars with Lorne Peterson, who was one of the chief modelmakers on the film and was responsible for many of the incredible craftsmanship and innovations the films created. Peterson will introduce the film and then be signing autographs for his new book on the ILM Modelshop, tracing the renowned modelshops early days in the 1970's and 80's.

But the Special Edition is being screened. Roughly 80% of the original groundbreaking, Oscar-winning modelwork is deleted.

Does this not bother anyone?

I am guessing the reason is because Lucasfilm has recalled all prints of the original 1977 ANH and does not lend out the OOT anymore--only the SE prints may be screened. I remember a similar incident where a university wanted to screen the film as part of its 1970's cinema classics class and only were offered the 1997 SE. The OOT dies a little once more.

If Lucas ever truly wanted to supress the OOT, then he wouldn't have allowed the recent release of it like he did in early September of this year.

The OOT we love is still there and going strong. The 1997 Special Editions I actually somewhat liked, while at the same time I don't want the OOT to be destroyed. It's not. It's still here.

For now.

Post: #259116
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259116/action/topic#259116
Time: 29-Nov-2006 4:17 PM

Originally posted by: Number20

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I just hope Peterson doesn't stand idly by and not mention it. I would love for there to be some instances where he points out, "Well, my work was in this shot, but it has since been removed. I remember I had this really cool model that the team loved and had to get in there... it's been replaced by computer graphics now." Best way to spread the word.

This would be pretty funny, actually. Too bad I doubt that they would do this if there was a chance he would badmouth the SE. They probably have him paid off to talk about how his models were good for 1977, but how much more impressive the CGI of today is. Still, I think this would be interesting to see. What is this, exactly? A program on TV? A live event? Will it be recorded in any way and perserved? It would be great to have.

Perhaps, but it will force someone to admit that changes were made. And as we don't know the guy, neither argument about his beliefs would be valide.

Post: #259026
Topic: See, George, This is how it's done ...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259026/action/topic#259026
Time: 29-Nov-2006 11:15 AM

Originally posted by: casualimp
I bought the ultimate set today and will have to call the number as Superman III isn't the deluxe edition. However, the english 2.0 track is there on disc one of Superman the movie. Did I misread or was the error that it wasn't present at all on the disc or that it was the wrong track? I'm sure Warner will replace them both when I call again (tried today, they're way too busy).

The 2.0 mix was a downmix of the 5.1 mix, rather than the ORIGINAL 2.0 which will be on the corrected disc.

Post: #259025
Topic: ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259025/action/topic#259025
Time: 29-Nov-2006 11:14 AM

I just hope Peterson doesn't stand idly by and not mention it. I would love for there to be some instances where he points out, "Well, my work was in this shot, but it has since been removed. I remember I had this really cool model that the team loved and had to get in there... it's been replaced by computer graphics now." Best way to spread the word.

I was thinking along similar lines to Gaf. Perhaps Lorne will be using this opportunity to "spread the word".

I hope and wish so, but I doubt that it would matter anyways.

Post: #258944
Topic: Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/258944/action/topic#258944
Time: 28-Nov-2006 7:45 PM

Originally posted by: boba feta
I heard on the news today that PJ was back on board. Haven't been able to find any evidence in cyberspace yet though.

Please God.