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#305090
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Star Wars: The Best of 2007 (Looking Back at 30 Years)
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Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: CO
I think this is whole problem with SW fandom, we expect something every year even though we shouldn't, and mostly because Lucas never does things right in the first place! So it is sort of a double edge sword to being a fan these days.
Personally, I don't expect something every year. However, I WOULD have expected something for the film's 30th Anniversary (aside from the "making of" book), but when they blew their wad with the DVDs in '06, I knew we weren't getting anything else of importance for Star Wars' 30th.


Which has also created this complete clusterfuck of a situation because of the quality of the discs, etc. It's just a complete mess now.
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#304587
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304587/action/topic#304587
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Originally posted by: zombie84Star Wars is not is not a rough version of the Special Edition, the Special Edition is its own entity.



Which is another point to bring up: other versions of other films are listed as "director's cuts," "extended versions," and such. There's none of this "replacement" crap. They are listed as different versions of the film. The thing about the public being charged to see it, however, is that Lucas DOES STILL OWN IT. It's he who is making the changes to films that HE OWNS. Legally, anyways. Do we hate that? Yes. But that's not really the issue. He's perfectly within his rights. I think that it's important to make this a campaign for the OOT rather than against the SEs.

Plus, if the OOT got a proper release, Lucas, shrewd businessman that he is, could put it in a huge boxed set with whatever other versions that he wants. If I can get the OOT in restored and remastered anamorphic widescreen with the proper sound mixes, I will pay virtually ANY price within reason.
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#304327
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304327/action/topic#304327
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On the Mona Lisa topic: The response of many will probably be "Why is OK for Ridley Scott to release several cuts of Blade Runner, Spielberg to redo Close Encounters three times, etc. etc.?" Well, the SEs suck and they don't . OK, seriously, we need to discuss how all versions of those are out there in HIGH QUALITY RELEASES. It's not about denying the SEs. However much many fans dislike them is irrelevant. The point is that the original deserve the same treatment. Lucas always claims that the SEs are so vastly superior. Lets see him put him money where his mouth is.
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#304300
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304300/action/topic#304300
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Very good point, Tiptup. Mention how people would feel if the Mona Lisa were altered, etc. It's not just about what the fans want. The extraordinary amount of historical importance that the films have is definately a key thing to mention, and if we could somehow hear from some of the people who have been involved in the production and have been vocal about it (Gary Kurtz, et. al) and if possible some of the people unhappy with the changes that have been made to their work.

I'm thinking of JediRandy. I know he'll probably think that this film sounds like idiotic whining on oue part and will say that we're being stupid for participating, but we should bear in mind that he's made lots of points about us whining about "our" movie (which it's NOT, and we should not claim it to be), and we'll doubtlessly have to face many people like him making counterpoints, and we must be civil, find places to agree to disagree, and show how a good OOT HD-DVD release would help people meet in the middle. Not that he'd care. He probably thinks that this is a stupid idea and that we're all whining.
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#304299
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304299/action/topic#304299
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: Tiptup
Peter Jackson not being in the director's chair would be a very good thing. The Hobbit is my favorite book of all time and I don't want him ruining it.


Maybe not, but I think the movie would end up worse if someone else was directing. We'd end up with PJ's style for LOTR and then a different style for the Hobbit, which might or might not work. I think that's really the only reason a lot of people want PJ directing, so all the movies have the same style.


True. I understand Tiptup's feeling about PJ, but they could wind up picking someone far worse.
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#304232
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304232/action/topic#304232
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Peter Jackson not being in the director's chair would be a very good thing. The Hobbit is my favorite book of all time and I don't want him ruining it.


Yes, but bear in mind that many of us do like his direction and do want him there . You're perfectly entitled to your opinion, mind, just bear in mind that Jackson has a large fanbase who would be interested in him taking on The Hobbit.
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#304231
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304231/action/topic#304231
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Originally posted by: see you auntie
From what I've read here briefly (I'll check out your website at a late date when I have more time) you seem to have the right idea with your documentary and I wish you the best of luck with it. As long as the focus is to convey to Lucas how much love/admiration there is for the OOT amongst the fanbase and beyond into the wider public. Not just a bunch of fanboys saying they've made George Lucas rich over the last 30 years and he owes them the OOT.


Agreed. I think that the focus should be on the respect that we have for him (in spite of the lack of respect that he has for us). No one is asking Lucas to stop the SEs or the PT. ALL that the fans want is for him to put out a high quality version of the OOT. That's ALL. WE NEED TO BE CIVIL, WE NEED TO NOT BE ANNOYING FANBOYS, WE NEED TO MAKE OUT POINT WELL IN A WAY THAT SOUNDS MATURE AND RESPECTFUL.

Here's Mr. English Major Writer's small example: A film can mean so many things. Consider, for example, that moment that a you person sees a certain movie and decides that they want to become a filmmaker. Or that movie that got someone through the hard times when they were in a hospital bed, or that was an instrumental part in forming a bond with a friend, or that they took their beloved to before asking for his or her hand in marriage. Consider the person interview on The Shawshank Redemption DVD who decided not to commit suicide because of the power of the film. A film is so much more than just a simple piece of entertainment sometimes. A film can change lives. A film can become something more than it was intended. A film can take on a life of its own and have meaning beyond anything that some people could ever imagine.

Does that mean that we're OWED the OOT? No, of course it doesn't. But at least it'll give some people and idea of how so many people feel. Not that George will care, but like I say, at least we should be respectful.
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#304200
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304200/action/topic#304200
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This "phantom film" between TH and LOTR sounds like marketing moreso than anything else, and the fact that Jackson is just exec producing (i.e., it's just his money) means little to me if his ass is not in the director's chair. Sigh. Ah, well. Such is my life. War in Iraq, genocide in Darfur, much more important world issues, ya know?
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#301317
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BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301317/action/topic#301317
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
These hotties that show up at conventions ... how 'come they don't hang out on the boards?

They've gotta be doing it either because (A) they're paid or (B) they're looking for publicity. Whether it's here, TF.N or even StarWars.com the boards are a digital sausage-hang, yet these hotties are ALWAYS at the conventions. Methinks something is rotten in the state of Denmark.


Nerdiness most foul!
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#300579
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Would you give up ESB in exchange for...?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300579/action/topic#300579
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Originally posted by: DarthPoppy
I think my "yes" vote is strengthened by the fact that people are justifying their "no" votes with comparisons to the Matrix and Back to the Future franchises. Sure Back to the Future was fun and the Matrix was very clever, but compared to the original Star Wars, they are both pretty trivial films (in my opinion)--just good examples of blockbusters. Neither one has the cross generational, timeless aspects of the original Star Wars. They were good films, don't get me wrong, but no one is surprised that they don't show up in AFI top 100 lists, etc. As for Godfather I and II, they are both based on preexisting story by Mario Puzzo. Zombie's parallel with the Rocky franchise makes more sense to me. But the original Rocky was never changed to with the idea that Rocky IV was always intended and the filmmakers don't ever make the claim that Rocky is not the story of Rocky Balboa, but really the story of Apollo Creed, etc.

The point I am making is that Star Wars back in 1977 wasn't just another blockbuster, it was a truly special, transformative cultural event; the same cannot be said for the other films (even the Godfather, which might well be a superior film).


I agree in the sense that The original film tells a complete story with a beginning, a middle, and an end, and that if ESB did not exist, the original film's impact would still be enormous. The whole Star Wars UNIVERSE, however, would not exist without ESB and ROTJ and everything that came after, but given the amount of negativity associated with some aspects of it, I just might...