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#310507
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Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: JediRandy


This whole idea of "tarnishing" the originals is crazy....



I actually agree that this wont tarnish the Originals, the same way EU books haven't either. The Clone Wars Cartoons are not going to draw the 'casual' SW fan the same way the PT did, so you aren't going to have that mass response to people waiting in line, so in turn, you won't get that big news story, "ANOTHER SW MOVIE, see they are waiting in line again....."

I have talked to my diehard SW friends, and not one friend is interesting in going in August, as they said they will probably catch a couple of episode on TV, just like many new things on TV just to see how it looks. These were the guys who were there opening weekend for EVERY PT movie no matter what they thought of the previous one.

I asked my casual SW friends, and they were like "Clone huh?" These were the guys who all went to TPM, skipped AOTC, and then some went to ROTS to see how Darth Vader came to be.

It is funny cause TPM made the most money, ROTS made the second most, and AOTC made the least, and that is exactly what order my casual SW friends went to see it.

Don't worry guys, this will appeal to the SW diehards, but won't affect the OOT one bit, so I have no angst towards how this does.


I think the majority of people will probably feel like they have no inclination to pay to see something in a theater that they can watch for free on TV, that's all. I don't really think that it runs much deeper than that.


Wait... the movie is a lead-in to the TV show, right?


Oh, is it? Now I'm confused....

As for the Indy 4 trailer, I must say, the trailer did make it look cool. If still a little shaky on the move itself, but they way it's presented is really cool.

"Damn, I thought that was closer!"
"Part time!"
Good stuff.

I kept waiting for an "I'm getting too old for this" line...
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#310361
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Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: CO
Originally posted by: JediRandy


This whole idea of "tarnishing" the originals is crazy....



I actually agree that this wont tarnish the Originals, the same way EU books haven't either. The Clone Wars Cartoons are not going to draw the 'casual' SW fan the same way the PT did, so you aren't going to have that mass response to people waiting in line, so in turn, you won't get that big news story, "ANOTHER SW MOVIE, see they are waiting in line again....."

I have talked to my diehard SW friends, and not one friend is interesting in going in August, as they said they will probably catch a couple of episode on TV, just like many new things on TV just to see how it looks. These were the guys who were there opening weekend for EVERY PT movie no matter what they thought of the previous one.

I asked my casual SW friends, and they were like "Clone huh?" These were the guys who all went to TPM, skipped AOTC, and then some went to ROTS to see how Darth Vader came to be.

It is funny cause TPM made the most money, ROTS made the second most, and AOTC made the least, and that is exactly what order my casual SW friends went to see it.

Don't worry guys, this will appeal to the SW diehards, but won't affect the OOT one bit, so I have no angst towards how this does.


I think the majority of people will probably feel like they have no inclination to pay to see something in a theater that they can watch for free on TV, that's all. I don't really think that it runs much deeper than that.
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#309306
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
OFFICIAL WORD IS THAT THE FIRST FILM WILL BE THE HOBBIT, AND THE SECOND FILM WILL DEAL WITH THE SIXTY YEAR GAP BETWEEN THE HOBBIT AND FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. THE WORD CAME FROM ELIJAH WOOD DURING AN INTERVIEW ON MTV.COM. HE AND THE ORIGINAL CAST COULD VERY WELL BE REUNITED FOR THE SECOND FILM. THEY ARE WAITING ON WORD FROM PETER JACKSON AS TO WHICH CHARACTERS WILL BE BACK.


Well, that's idiotic enough. Please god, let this be a rumor. Show some common sense and at least adapt something that Tolkien actually WROTE!
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#309179
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Jim Ward steps down
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: generalfrevious
Well, we'll have to accept the laerdisc ports for the next 20-30 years; maybe someday well get a remastered OOT, but probably not in the first half of this century. Unfortunately, they'll have to try to recreate what it was in 1977 from the GOUT. But until hell freezes over Im jumping over to the star trek crowd until then.

Not sure how that would be a much better camp as far as this discussion goes. It's impossible to get the original theatrical versions of Star Treks I, II, and VI in an anamorphic DVD either.

Since I think it was you who brought this subject up in another thread, I'll cut you some slack for getting it wrong since I was actually going to list the specs of each original version's release and didn't get around to it.

The first dvd release of II was the original theatrical version and it was an anamorphic transfer.

Paramount released the old single disc editions in a weird order, it went something like this IIRC:

-First Contact, anamorphic, either day and date with the vhs in '97 (if it wasn't before the dvd format debuted ....) or a year later in '98
-Insurrection was day and date with the vhs in '99. I remember when we got our first dvd player in late spring of '99 (it was a father's day present to my dad) and going to see if the video store had a copy to rent and they were out so I rented it on pan n' scan vhs instead and watched it in the basement (I hadn't seen the movie at all yet in case you were wondering why I wanted to rent it).
-Of the pre-'97 movies, I think V and VI were released first for some reason (probably because they were the more recent movies). They were both non-anamorphic and VI was the home video cut with the operation retrieve scene and a few other differences.
-Generations was non-anamorphic
-Wrath of Khan was released in 2000 (I still remember seeing the Best Buy ad in the paper where it was listed under new releases coming out that Tuesday and thinking how odd (and yet cool at the same time) it was that they were starting with II). It was anamorphic, single layer and it was the original version. Search for Spock and Voyage Home were the same way, except Voyage Home was dual-layer.

It's funny, I actually saw a bunch of the old discs in the used section of an independent store early last year and was tempted to pick up II since it's the original version. I dunno, I guess I'm just hoping (just like with Star Wars) that they'll go all out for the inevitable hi-def release and put both versions on there.

EDIT: yea, knew I shouldn't have bothered to type all that out and wait to hit the button. Baronlando beat me to it.

Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: zombie84
True, but having said that all we got with Ward was a Laserdisk port.

At least he was able to accomplish that much.

However, the creation of a new petition on this site is long overdue: the OOT on Blu-ray.


"Existing prints are in poor condition." This quote from the form-response email sent out by LFL back in May of '06 to all of us outraged fans should be our starting point for the new petition. "So, they exist, and you could give us a remaster using them, you're just not going to?" should be our response. On the other hand, we need to first verify what exactly they mean by "existing prints." Does this mean they are acknowledging the fact that private collectors have prints of the OOT or does it in fact mean LFL actually still has some (or even some interpositives) lying around in the vault?



How substantiative are the Trek changes?

Originally posted by: Fang Zei
I'm cutting anything from the special edition restoration onward out of the equation. I mean, there's what, several hundred differences between the SE and the OOT? Has any professional studio actually reconstructed an earlier version of one of their films in such a way instead of simply transferring an older print/IP? Whenever I talk about "those interpositives" I mean the most recently struck pre-SE IP, but for all I know that could be more than twenty years old at this point and beyond any hope of restoration. Going the route of private collectors (as suggested by Bill Hunt) and getting Criterion to spearhead it (as suggested by Jay) might be the only real option available.


Ahem. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa121.html#fr

Basically it comes down to them not wanting to spend the cash, which I wish that they'd just say.

"That's right, we can do this, but Lucas won't so we're fucking over the fans. Now buy more of our shit."

That's basically what they should just come and say.

I'd be all for a new petition or SOMETHING. I'd like to do SOMETHING. But, since Lucas won't change his mind, I doubt that it will matter anyway.
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#308835
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Peter Jackson evidently IS returning for The Hobbit...sort of...
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After I'm done fanboygasming all over myself, I'd like to say that I don't think that there's much that could possible thrill me more than the prospect of del Toro directing and Jackson producing (granted, I've never had sex, but...). That being said, given del Toro's frequent passes on most mainstream projects, and that he and Jackson might butt heads, chances look slim. Still, I'd love to see it happen, but it's just a rumor at this juncture......

And everyone who loves del Toro and liked Pan's Labyrinth, for the love of god, rent The Devil's Backbone!

Good Lord, let it be so.

If Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth are any indication, he would do a fantastic job! He would be capable of capturing both the Hobbit's lighthearted nature and its dark themes perfectly. Heck, his great use of special effects alone should get him this job.

His skill is not in question. It's his will that I wonder about.

Changing Faramir and Aragorn's character was completely unnecessary.


I'm not saying that it was a stroke of genius to have Aragorn disappear by any means, but it didn't change his character. Faramir, however...
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#308767
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Bond 22: Quantum of Solace
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Weird-ass title, if you ask me.

Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
Originally posted by: C3PX
I like that it is another Fleming title. I would like to the new series of Bond movies stick with Fleming's stuff, which is the way it is going so far.


AT THIS POINT IN THE FRANCHISE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY IT CAN GO.


How? They're out of Fleming stories now!

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
The first four movies, OHMSS, For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, Dalton's two, and Casino Royale hit very close to Ian Fleming's books both in terms of the nature of the character and the plots. The others are wild flights of fancy. Craig has brought back Ian Fleming's James Bond to the screen, and that's a VERY good thing.

Read the books. They're awesome fun without being overly high-minded. You'll especially love stuff like Moonraker, Live and Let Die, and You Only Live Twice and how the stories blow their celluloid counterparts out of the water.


Fleming didn't exactly write high art though; he was basically a pulp writer, and some of the "flights of fancy" were pretty fun (The Spy Who Loved Me, Goldeneye).
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#308401
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(SPOILER) new "STAR TREK" 2009 spoiler thread (SPOILER)
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Originally posted by: Bobby Jay
I must admit that my expectations for the new Star Trek movie are prety low but these pictures have raised them slightly.

It appears to be a copy of the Constitution-class Enterpise (the refit version I think) with a design that reminds me of the NX-01 Enterprise.
(if that makes any sense)

I like it too.



I reminds me MUCH more of the original design than the refit version, which I think is the intention. And I think that ILM are back this time around.
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#305454
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Star Wars: The Best of 2007 (Looking Back at 30 Years)
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Originally posted by: bigbaddaddyvader
Bottom line:
A comprehensive Star Wars set in either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray (i would say it is more likely to be Blu-Ray) containing SE's,OOt and theatrical and other versions of the PT plus bonuses will happen over the next couple of years.There is a boatload of cash to be made from it so that is what drives LFL so it will happen.The average consumer,diehard and casual fan alike will buy a comprehensive set like that so it is a cash-in waiting to happen.What you guys think that it wont happen before the release of the live-action show to hype that up?

Containing the OOT? Yeah, right, I somehow doubt it. God, I wish.

Originally posted by: generalfrevious
No, there will be continued quarter-assed releases against our wishes. If Lucasfilm was competent, we would have the 30th anniversary boxset we all expected.


OK, we've got that that's your point of view on the issue; you can ease up .
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#305452
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"The People Vs. George Lucas" documentary...
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
All right.... so say LFL releases a Hi-Def or whatever is a "proper" OOT release.... is that all is is about or what? Do you want him to burn the SE in the town square? I just don't get it...

Nope. If we get the proper OOT release on DVD and HD (and whatever other formats come along, because you know that there will be others and we'll probably have to fight for releases all over again), then excuse my French, but I don't give a fuck. That's the only thing that I want. Once I have that, I could care less.

Nevertheless, good luck with your documentary.... it's great to see a SW fan being inspired to create something of their own.


I'd imagine that many, like your's truly, are aspiring filmmakers around here.