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#547323
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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SilverWook said:

It's interesting they didn't do the "digital copy" stuff with this release.

I have to maniacally laugh every time I read one of these articles predicting the death of physical media as we know it.

http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/717/7-gadgets-that-wont-be-around-in-2020

And if there's any annoying, meaningless, technological buzzword I've grown to despise in the past year, it's "the cloud"! ;)

What's "the cloud?"

TV's Frink said:

red5-626 said:

Then there is streaming video but what it your internet if out you have nothing to do.

You could go outside ;-)

Or read a book...

 

And physical media or no physical media, it's just another nail in the OOT's coffin.

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#544931
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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georgec said:

kenkraly2007 said:

that's your opinion georgec.

Actually it's quite well-documented fact. Here are some great articles:

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/marcialucas.html

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/beyondgeorgelucas.html

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/conversationswithleighbrackett.html

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/08/12/star-wars-was-born-a-long-time-ago-but-not-all-that-far-far-away-in-1972-filmmakers-george-lucas-and-gary-kurtz-wer/

Kurtz, Burtt, Tippet, they've all been making comments in the last year or so with subtle jabs at Lucas' greed and lack of integrity.

Lucas has taken the cheap, lazy route with giving SW the best treatment and his lies continue to grow. I can't blame him, as many SW fans are self-loathing and will buy his products even if they disagree with their content/quality. Lucas has many SW fans by the nuts.

I think it's mostly the kids. Lets face it, most kids don't care what version they're watching and most parents buy them floods of tie-in stuff to see the kids smile. What're OOT fans going to do, go to parents and say "Hey, I know it makes your kid happy, but stop supporting revisionist history?" You can hardly blame them if they'd rather see a smiling child. There's no way we're going to make a dent in the multibillion dollar franchise. I've just decided to stop deluding myself. We fought against a giant, and we got crushed. Game set. Matched.

 

Mielr said:

Master Sifo-Dyas said:



Mielr said:

So, I wonder how many of these BD sets have sold now? I wonder if the sales have dropped significantly since the first week of release.

When I was going through the flyers in this Sunday's newspaper, I didn't see one single ad for the set- not in Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. You'd think they'd still be pushing it since it's only been out a couple of weeks.


Too lazy to do the math myself - not too lazy to dig up a few sources for the amount of dough LFL raked in so far:

deadline.com: http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/" target="_blank" title="deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records">‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records

movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39star-wars39-blu-ray-sales-breaks-records-globally-despite-fan-outcry/4639" target="_blank" title="movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry">'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry

movies.yahoo.com: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/the-projector/boycott-star-wars-blu-rays-worked-oh-wait-193019509.html" target="_blank" title="movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All">Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All


I know that the BD sets sold very well the first week, I'm just wondering if they're still selling well or if the sales have dropped off significantly. The sales could actually end up being disappointing if the fanboys all bought it the first week, but if the more casual fans heard the internet chatter and decided not to buy, when they normally would have bought it a few weeks or months after the release.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/" target="_blank" title="deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records">‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39star-wars39-blu-ray-sales-breaks-records-globally-despite-fan-outcry/4639" target="_blank" title="movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry">'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry movies.yahoo.com: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/the-projector/boycott-star-wars-blu-rays-worked-oh-wait-193019509.html" target="_blank" title="movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All">Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All I know that the BD sets sold very well the first week, I'm just wondering if they're still selling well or if the sales have dropped off significantly. The sales could actually end up being disappointing if the fanboys all bought it the first week, but if the more casual fans heard the internet chatter and decided not to buy, when they normally would have bought it a few weeks or months after the release. 

http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/ref=sv_mov_1">http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/movies-tv/ref=sv_mov_1

First guess is no. Still selling off the shelves.

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#544318
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Mielr said:

 

Master Sifo-Dyas said:



Mielr said:

So, I wonder how many of these BD sets have sold now? I wonder if the sales have dropped significantly since the first week of release.

When I was going through the flyers in this Sunday's newspaper, I didn't see one single ad for the set- not in Target, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, etc. You'd think they'd still be pushing it since it's only been out a couple of weeks.


Too lazy to do the math myself - not too lazy to dig up a few sources for the amount of dough LFL raked in so far:

deadline.com: http://www.deadline.com/2011/09/star-wars-complete-saga-on-blu-ray-breaks-global-sales-records/" target="_blank" title="deadline.com: ‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records">‘Star Wars: The Complete Saga’ On Blu-Ray Breaks Worldwide Sales Records

movies.com: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/39star-wars39-blu-ray-sales-breaks-records-globally-despite-fan-outcry/4639" target="_blank" title="movies.com: 'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry">'Star Wars' Blu-ray Sales Breaks Records Globally Despite Fan Outcry

movies.yahoo.com: http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/the-projector/boycott-star-wars-blu-rays-worked-oh-wait-193019509.html" target="_blank" title="movies.yahoo.com: Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All">Your Boycott of the ‘Star Wars’ Blu-Rays Worked! Oh, Wait, No, It Didn’t at All


I know that the BD sets sold very well the first week, I'm just wondering if they're still selling well or if the sales have dropped off significantly. The sales could actually end up being disappointing if the fanboys all bought it the first week, but if the more casual fans heard the internet chatter and decided not to buy, when they normally would have bought it a few weeks or months after the release.

Oh, wait, is this the KenKraly thread? ;-)

 

I was sort of hoping that, but I kind of doubt it given that it's still in Amazon's top 10.

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#544157
Topic
OFFICIAL: Library of Congress had original prints replaced with 1997 SE
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FrederikOlsen said:

Pretty much all reviews of the Blu-ray box I've read are stating that the original versions are not included, and that some of these more recent changes are indeed for the worse.

There may be TF.Net users that are in love with the "NOOOOO", but most professional reviewers seem to hate it. Despite high sales numbers, the bad press could be harmful in the long run. Especially when it comes to the 3D re-releases...

Again, that may be, but it's still a question of how things stand financially. Unless this outcry causes BIG ripples, which we can only hope for.

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#543962
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OFFICIAL: Library of Congress had original prints replaced with 1997 SE
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Let's try not to forget that the preservations/restorations coming out of this forum keep getting better, not worse!  And public outcry is on the upswing, for the first time in history.  I'm hopeful.

Really? Because the sales are record-breaking, what makes you think "public outcry is on the upswing?"

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#543654
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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red5-626 said:

 Look what happened to the Library of Congress. There's a point when things go from Rocky to Raging Bull and I'm just standing there getting beaten to prove something to myself that isn't true. We're done guys. I wish it wasn't so, but every time it looked like we had a chance, we didn't. First the GOUT, then the Blus, then Congress itself. The bridges are burned.

 Did every one give up there alcohol when Prohibition was past?

Just because you can’t get the OUT legally its not going to go away.

Sore any one came make alcohol and there it only a limited source of the OUT.

No I am not promoting Piracy. And I am not suggesting we sell OUT bootlegs.

But the OUT must be saved.

 

We're welcome to try, but fan-preserved version aren't going to be remembered decades down the road.

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#543627
Topic
Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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Jaskoen said:

 

Mike O said:

Well, we've been battling forever, and first wound up with the GOUT and now this. It's just hard not to finally just throw up my hands.
Never give up!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Z35YX66SL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

 

Yeah, and look what happened to his career. Look what happened to the Library of Congress. There's a point when things go from Rocky to Raging Bull and I'm just standing there getting beaten to prove something to myself that isn't true. We're done guys. I wish it wasn't so, but every time it looked like we had a chance, we didn't. First the GOUT, then the Blus, then Congress itself. The bridges are burned.

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#543481
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Region-free Blu-Ray
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xhonzi said:

Mike O said:

It looks like this'll set me back almost $700. Wish there was a cheaper option like there was for my DVD player, but doesn't like like it.

 I'm just here to be your reality check- let's say a decent region locked BD player is $100.  Is it worth the $600 difference to play BDs you haven't even identified yet?  What if you just got the $100 BD player and crossed the bridge of "region free" when you actually want it?  Perhaps that's so far in the future that prices will have come down much further than the $100 sunk cost of this option.

This has most certainly occurred to me. The problem with that is that I have a number of DVDs that it wouldn't be able to play and switching the players depending on what I want to play would be annoying and I'd like to just kill the whole problem in one fell swoop. Now, if the Oppo is as good as Mr. Sylvester and others have told me, then after all of this sunk money, I'd at hopefully have it and future BR problems permanently solved. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as it was with DVD where I could just pick up almost any player and modify it. It's a question of patience: what could come down the pipe and when. Still, you're right. It's worth thinking about. But patience has never been my strong suit :P.

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#543039
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Region-free Blu-Ray
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Jay said:

Mike O said:

Can I get the mod on eBay?

I don't think bluraychip.dk sells their pro mod on ebay. You can get the USB mod there though. Personally, I'd go for the internal mod. It's cleaner and easier to use.

Just out of curiosity, how does that work? You can't hack the firmware, so how does hardware allow this kind of thing? Not important, just curious. Anyway, will the player also handle things like streaming Netflix, software updates, Hulu, etc while still playing everything?

I have no idea how the mod works, it just does. It doesn't interfere with any of the player's functions. The initial mod firmware did cause problems if the rear USB port had something plugged in, but they updated the firmware to take care of that.

I've got a thing about ordering stuff online, especially from places other than the big retailers, but it does sound like the best option.... Obviously, you're vouching for it. Do they take PayPal?

It looks like this'll set me back almost $700. Wish there was a cheaper option like there was for my DVD player, but doesn't like like it.

*Is doing something like this legal? I wouldn't want to be caught trying to pick up something that wasn't within the law just to play DVDs....

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#542800
Topic
Region-free Blu-Ray
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I don't really know because I don't pay attention to the region, I just buy them :)

That's what I'm shooting for.

You need a screwdriver to take the top off the Oppo, but installing the mod requires no tools. The instructions provided with the mod (including pictures) take you through it step by step.

Can I get the mod on eBay?

DVD has Region 0, and in most cases, DVDs from any region will play in a player set to Region 0. Blu-ray doesn't have a concept of Region 0. Instead, the disc is encoded as all regions (A/B/C) simultaneously if it's meant for worldwide use. Switching isn't a big deal on the Oppo, you just press a different button on the remote to turn on the power and have it start in the desired region.

Just out of curiosity, how does that work? You can't hack the firmware, so how does hardware allow this kind of thing? Not important, just curious. Anyway, will the player also handle things like streaming Netflix, software updates, Hulu, etc while still playing everything?

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#542607
Topic
Region-free Blu-Ray
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twister111 said:

You could just buy one, no mod required. Amazon Link. Got two region free Blu-ray players right now. Still expensive but, it's cheaper then the other player you're mentioning.

I can't give you any feedback about how those work. I don't own either of them.


http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7405/cooly.gif

I'm reticent to do that simply because I don't know how comfortable I am with buying something modded by someone else, unsure how how it'll work. I wanted to just wait until BR players went down in price, but that looks a ways away, and I don't think Oppo or region-free ones ever will.

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#542068
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Region-free Blu-Ray
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It would depend on what's coming down the pipe. This is still fairly early in Blu's lifespan, so maybe something that I'll be geared up for but can't play will come along. Most of what I want on BR I can get in my own region, whereas I have a few out of region DVDs, but that could change.

 

Mr. Sylvester! I am honored!

The region mod is very easy to install, with no soldering or any potentially warranty-voiding changes.

 

Define "very easy." (You then do.)

 

You unplug a few cables from the mainboard, connect them to the mod, then connect the mod to the mainboard.

 

Does this require a screwdriver or any knowledge. I'm not a dummy when it comes to electronics, but I'm clumsy in general, and I just would want to be VERY, VERY careful with something that cost me $500 plus. I don't suppose there's an idiot-proof video that tell how or somesuch?

If you ever need to send the 93 to Oppo for warranty service (which I did due to a faulty capacitor on the mainboard), simply remove the mod before sending it in. You can get a cheaper mod that connects to the rear USB port if you want, the downsides being the loss of that port and the need to boot the player twice (once to start it, then a reboot after you've switched the region). The internal mod lets you start the player in region A/B/C by pressing 1/2/3 on the remote to power it on.

So unlike a DVD player, there isn't a "one size fits all" kind of thing you can do? Even with a mod, you've got to manually switch it? But it'll play all DVDs? Kind of annoying, but workable. Sounds like the Blu-Ray folks have made this a hard thing to circumvent :p. At least it sounds like it's fairly simple to change.

The 93 is more expensive than most players on the market, but its video playback is reference and its build quality is solid. And Oppo's customer support is second to none. They had my 93 back to me in less than a week for that warranty repair. Good luck getting that from Sony or Samsung.

It's SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive. With the mod, that three or four weeks pay for me. It sounds like it's just about the baddest BR player on the market (though it doesn't look something that'll ever go on sale). If I'm sure that it's as good as its rep, I'd be willing to pay, but if it's that much, I'm hoping it'll do everything and a few things besides.