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#682443
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Michael Bay Bombs
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I'm hardly a fan of Bay's films, but I'm sympathetic here. It's hardly like Bay stormed off of the stage swearing or something, I think he just got stage fright and vapor-locked. And if the prompter went off, he might've been worried about saying the wrong thing and really messing up, and I don't think the people who were sponsoring him would've wanted him to say the wrong thing when they were paying him so much money. That being said, if he knew he was going to be speaking in public about a specific topic, be probably should've done some preparation about what he'd say. He really locked up, I do feel sorry for him, I think the guy asking about the curve even tried to steer him in the right direction, and be just totally froze. And it looks like he's issued a public apology too. He comes across as pretty abrasive sometimes, but don't think any of this was done in malice or anything, I think it was just bad luck. I probably would've gotten pretty severe stage fright too, I actually feel sympathy for him here.

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#679977
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The Hobbit movie: Dwarves
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Why didn't the say the line "This was an unexpected Journey" in the first movie? That bugs me. They say "The desolation of Smaug" in this one, and in all of the LOTR movies they say the title. That bugs me.

The Dwarves may be on a quest to reclaim their homeland and slay a dragon, but Peter Jackson is on a quest too; he's hell-bent on proving you can have too much a good thing. Middle Earth hits a sophomore slump with The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug, the second chapter in the trilogy which should've been a single film. Jackson has never been a subtle director, and his study in mesmerizing excess continues here, and it's finally starting to catch up with him. Lots of fans and critics have justifiably taken him to task for splitting the slimmest (and most accessible) of Tolkien's work into a bloated second trilogy, and the first installment, An Unexpected Journey, received a decidedly lukewarm reception. But for my part, I enjoy it quite a bit. In spite of its length, it was light on its feet and breezed through it's nearly three-hour length. The Desolation of Smaug, however, is severely hamstrung with middle-chapter syndrome, loaded with exposition and padding to get to the meat of the story which, God-willing, Jackson will bring around in the third installment.

When we last left Bilbo and his merry band of 13 Dwarves, they'd escaped from Goblin tunnels with the help of Gandalf and Bilbo's magic ring. Now they're on the run from Azog, the Defiler (Who's done wholly with CG, in contrast to the film's other orcs, and still kind of looks like an albino reject from Avatar.) and his bad of evil orcs and Wargs, who as it transpires, are serving a much darker master...They take refuge with the "skin-changer" Beorn (Exactly why Jackson didn't simply cut this subplot, as Rankin-Bass did in the animated version is a mystery, as it doesn't really pay off later in the film and doesn't seem likely to in the third movie.), and journey into the dark forest of Mirkwood, ruled by Elves who are none to friendly to Dwarves and evil giant spiders, and a familiar face from Jackson's first trilogy. After escaping via and excess but rollicking fun ride in barrels down the river full of Buster Keaton-styled sight gags, they arrive in Laketown, at which point the film crashes into a brick wall and hits a grinding halt from which it never fully recovers. Gandalf, meanwhile, breaks off from the pack to go discover a dark evil which the audience knows all too well.

On the surface, the idea of spending more time in Laketown isn't a bad idea. In the novel, the Dwarves themselves never actually get to battle Smaug and the task of slaying the dragon is taken from them and Bilbo and given to a character we hardly know. By spending time there, we're actually given an idea of what's at stake, who Bard is, and what they're fighting for. Moreover, there's a subtle political subplot running through these scenes which is kind of interesting, and we get to know and care about Bard and his family and the culture of the ruined Laketown. But having Thorin and the Dwarves smuggled into town by Bard, quibble over weapons, and argue with the Master takes way too long. And it's not the only place where the film dawdles either. The characters taking refuge with Beorn, who's transformed from the Eco-protector of the forest to a sort of werewolf not in control of his bear form, and could have rather easily been excised. And when the gang finally arrives at the Lonely Mountain, it takes forever for them to figure out how to get in. Once the Dwarves finally throw down with the dragon, the constant cutting back to Laketown and the pair of renegade elves is likewise distracting.

The Hobbit is a very tonally different book from The Lord of the Rings, lighter, more breezy, and less ponderous. The first film, though long and occasionally detouring into juvenile humor, handled this tone rather well. The Desolation of Smaug, however, dips into darker territory in its attempts to expand the plot, and the glimpses of dirty day-to-day life in Laketown and the political machinations behind it and the Dwarves dirty journey to the mountaintop, seem a bit ponderous and dragging. The tone of LOTR which infuses the new material vs. the tone of the source novel's sequence is still not fully reconciled.

But if it's too much of a good thing, there are still good things. Though their presence is largely unnecessary, Legolas and his sexy Elven mate prove an engaging pair, the casting remains as impeccable as ever, the production design is breathtaking, the cinematography is stunning, and the effects? You have to see Smaug to believe it. Cumberbatch, his voice apparently run though a rumbling filter, is superb as the arrogant dragon, and the FX work is nothing short of breathtaking, the dragon's every movement and twitch a wonder and a tribute to the incredible artisty to WETA's team of digital craftsman. And Jackson being Jackson, the action is rollicking and some of the little touches are superb-dropping coins to indicate the presence of Smaug, Gandalf's telekinetic throwdown with the Necromancer who evaporates his magical staff, Bilbo's slow realization of the altogether evil nature of his seemingly innocuous ring is a nice touch, a particularly poetic moment of Bilbo both literally and metaphorically rising above the dark forest surround by butterflies is a a gorgeous shot and the image of Sauron himself coming out of the evil Eye of Mordor is one of the most inspired images Jackson's imagination has yet conceived. WETA's armor and weapons remain superb, and the film's world looks fully lived in, a fully realized fantasy vision, with the best screen dragon since the underrated Dragonslayer. Smaug is worth the price of admission, it just takes forever to get there. And whereas Jackson's other Tolkien films, though they obviously hinted at future story to tell, had satisfying endings, this one ends on a somewhat unsatisfying cliffhanger.

Jackson himself remains both as excessive and brilliant as ever, a post-modern blend of George Lucas, James Cameron, and Steven Spielberg all rolled into one with a throwback to the swashbuckling fun and sense of awe of the Hollywood spectacles of yesteryear. Though occasionally marred by the prequel-trilogy style excesses of the director's own King Kong,  most of the set pieces are thoroughly exciting and fun. The actors are all as superb as ever, particularly the slowly degrading but regal Richard Armitage as Thorin and the wonderful Martin Freeman as Bilbo, who's new inner strength and character development is beautifully conveyed. The rest of the Dwarves are a fun band to ride with, and though Bloom remains a bit wooden, the wholesale invention of a sexy female wood elf played by Evangeline Lily as his tortured soulmate works better than it has any right to, as the film zooms out to show exactly how the various elements will eventually come together for the big finish. He's a talented filmmaker, but one can't help but wish his editor has more clout now and again. Entertaining in spite of its flaws, lets hope the Jackson manages to pull everything together for the last installment. It's good to be back in Middle Earth, let's just hope that the finale manages to make the overlong journey worthwhile.

Overall, I just love Jackson's vision of Middle Earth and the world. Lots of people will justifiably criticize these movies-the overlength is the director's indulgence combined with a money-grab, purely and simply, but I still enjoyed the ramped up action sequences and have lots of fun with the movies. and the characters played by fantastic actors. I just wish the wait for the inevitable big-ass six film boxed set wasn't so long. Yeah, I know, there are problems, but I'm having fun anyway.
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#669568
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The Enderverse (WAS: Finally! Ender's Game emerges from Development Hell!)
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"And the old men, they march slowly, their bodies twisted and sore, the forgotten soldiers from a forgotten war, and the young people they say to me 'What are they marching for?' And I sat and ask myself the same question. And so the band it plays "Waltzing Matilda," and the old men, they still answer its call. But year after year, the numbers get fewer, and soon no one will march there at all."
Eric Bogle

So sci-fi fans, at last it's here. After nearly 30 years in the making drifting through development hell, Orson Scott Card's classic military sci-fi novel Ender's Game finally hits the multiplex, CG and all. And given what usually happens when projects drift for decades from director to director, the end result is actually pretty impressive. Well-cast, gorgeously shot, faithful to the novel, and directed with clean precision, the final product is a smart, sleek, if not quite spectacular sci-fi action film.

The story concerns Andrew "Ender" Wiggin, a child prodigy with a brilliant tactical mind being groomed as a military genius in a neo-fascist future. Mankind was devastated in a war with an alien race, and in horror that they might come back to finish the job, has decided to fight genocide with genocide and launch an attack on their home planet. But wars are won by soldiers, not technology, and they desperately need a new commander. Ender is taken from his family, including his sister Valentine (Abigail Breslin), the one person he loves, sent to battle school to be groomed as a new military master by Colonial Graft (a grizzled Harrison Ford). But Ender's killer instinct vie with his compassion, and in their desperation to stamp a new identity in place of one that isn't even full formed yet, the International Fleet may be creating an even more deadly threat than the one against which they fight as Ender begins to wonder just who his enemy really is...

Though director Gavin Hood's last Hollywood outing, the disappointing, protracted and dull X-Men Origins: Wolverine was plagued by mangled rapid-fire editing and out-of-date slow-motion fireballs left over from Steven Segal movies, Ender's Game finds the director on more comfortable footing. Full of sleek, clean lines, symmetrical architecture, and bleak landscapes, Hood's fully realized if occasionally artificial-looking sci-fi future isn't necessarily anything new, but it's visually interesting and gorgeously shot by ace DOP Donald McAlpine (and mercifully not in 3-D). The zero-gravity combat sequences are appropriately spatially interesting, and the Star Wars-style space battles are suitably tense. Hood's aesthetic, perhaps reflecting the fascist future in which the film takes place, is sleek and clean, and the actions sequences are actually coherent. Apart from a few clunky voice-over narration bits, the storyline moves very smoothly, Hood stripping away the fat for a lean, exciting story.

But it's the performances where the film really excels. Hood's eerie closeups on Butterfield's eyes as he transformers from innocent child to hardened killer are appropriately eerie, and the young actor's combination of ferocity and vulnerability is pitch-perfect. By zooming the focus in on Ender himself, Hood's pet theme of soldiers who begin to question their actions dovetails well with Card's novel. To some extent, however, while much of the fat is trimmed from the novel, it does to some extent come at the expense of some its wider implications about the way in which the many contradictory alliances and people form a web which tangles things and leads countless institutions and individuals to push towards their own ends. It also short-changes the members of Ender's platoon, all well-performed by by their respective actors, particularly a spunky Hailee Steinfeld and a brief but memorable role from Abigail Breslin as Ender's empathetic sister.

Heavyweight Ben Kingsley brings appropriate gravitas (tablet with another rather ridiculous accent) to a small but important role, but the real surprise comes in the form of sci-fi luminary Harrison Ford. Hood well-exploits his grizzled features and no-nonsense persona as a ruthlessly Machiavellian military commander, contrasted with a more compassionate Viola Davis. It's here where the film finds its central themes of warmongering, brainwashing, and fascism in this duality, confidently performed by the two heavyweight actors. If Ender's Game isn't quite as though-provoking as its source material, it's still a step above most genre movies these days, with ideas to go along with its strong performances and cool set pieces, with an intelligence which echoes if not equals the thematically similar Paul Verhoeven film Starship Troopers. Don't just do what you're told, don't just ask who's telling you, but ask why. In an age where Transformers and Battleship pass for science-fiction, Ender's Game's blend of intelligence and action are all too welcome, and the film, in spite of its flaws, comes out a winner.

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#669085
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The Armchair Movie Critic thread
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The Will Be Blood- Paul Thomas Anderson's epically ambitious tale about a giant oil magnate (Daniel Day Lewis). Showered in critical adulation and awards, it's easy to see why. The film tosses around many intriguing ideas-capitalism and religion bringing hucksters and con men, communication, the power of greed, etc. It' superbly shot and beautifully put together, but the central character is so repugnant, the movie's reach does exceed its grasp. It's a real shot at greatness though, and the ambition and intelligence are appreciated.

I Confess- Hitchcock yarn about a priest who refuses to reveal a murder's confession. Surprisingly talky for a Hitchcock picture, and not perhaps one of his finest or most suspenseful, but gorgeously shot, well-acted, and nice and lean.

A Knife in the Water- Roman Polanski's directorial debut, an austere, Bergmanesque piece about a couple who pick up a hitchhiker and take him with them on a boat trip, and the two men vie for the woman's sexual attention. Depending on your point of view, either nothing happens or everything, but as a beautifully shot, subtle, creeping psychological thriller with an ambiguous, arts ending, the film holds up pretty well. The film has an intriguing bit deal with the social conditions of the characters, but on the Criterion disc, Polanski says this is "bullshit," added to appease the Communist Polish censors. He amusing describes shaky-cam and Dogme, saying "I either think the cameraman has Parkinson's or is masturbating or some shit."

Man of Steel- Zach Snyder's much-hyped return of Superman to the big screen is sadly one of the most disappointing films in recent memory. Dour, joyless, dull, and no fun at all, it almost completely bungles one of pop culture's most beloved characters. Dated special effects and all, Donner's films look better and better with each passing year, and so does Bruce Timm's animated series.

Fast and Furious 6- More good-natured nonsense from Jusin Lin. Lightweight popcorn fare that isn't likely to age well, but does its job handily for the 130 minutes in the theater. Lots of things go boom with hilarious panache and gleeful disregard for any physics or logic. Lots of musclebound guys and hot girls beat each other up and make cars go really fast, causing as much destruction as possible everywhere. Still not a very good villain, but a post-credits stinger with Jason Statham indicates that the next installment might finally fulfill the quota. I'm never, ever forgiving Justin Lin for wasting the opportunity to have Gina Carano and Joe Taslim have a fight scene. I was robbed of an epic martial arts fan's dream. I wish Carano could come back for the sequel, but alas, this installment renders that impossible.

Jack Reacher- Screenwriter Chistopher McQuarrie (of many good Bryan Singer screenplays) takes another shot at directing with this pulpy Tom Cruise yarns about an ex-Army MP who get tangled in a spree killing that isn't what it appears to be. McQuarrie streamlines a bit of Lee Child's complicated plot from his novel One Shot, and as a writer himself, he takes more delight in the pulpy tone and chewy dialogue and acting than the setting (changed from Indiana to Pittsburgh) or any particular visual aesthetics. A decent but unmemorable nuts-and-bolts thriller, Werner Herzog has fun as a deliciously evil villain who chewed off his own fingers in a Russian Gulag. Vat iz zis?

Parker- Taylor Hackford tries to make Donald E. Westlake's ruthlessly amoral criminal into a vehicle for Jason Statham. Westlake probably wouldn't have appreciated some of the more sentimental aspect added to the character, but the ruthless unrepentant bastard from the novels is unlikely to ever show up in mainstream Hollywood films. Statham does what he can and brings his usual tough guy charisma. Efficient and a decent way to pass a rainy afternoon, but no more than that.

Mr. Nice Guy- 90s Jackie Chan Kong-Sang American vehicle directed ny the great Sammo Hung Kam-Bo. One of those internationally flavored movies, it has almost zero personality and jumbled nonsensical plot revolving around a VHS tape Macguffin, but some breathtaking set pieces, including a full-scale excavation loader destroying a real building. Chan never throws down with villain Richard Norton, almost as egregious an affront as the one above. Chan's usual charisma goes a long way in salvaging the film.


Voice of Moon- Fellini's final film, a madcap surreal odyssey. Visually stunning, endlessly inventive, surreal, visionary, and a bit exhausting. Caught it at a nearby art house, must've been a proper film print, can't imagine there's a DCP of this, and I don't know if it's ever been released on DVD.

The Black Death- The rare film that works viscerally and intellectually, Christopher Smith's dark medieval drama is that rare overachieving B-movie nearly that's extinct in the over-budgeted blockbuster climate. All of the requisite blood and gore, a surprisingly intelligent screenplay, great cinematography, and solid performances. Crackerjack genre piece, blend of raw viscera and scalding social commentary with a nihilistic? punch, a smart B-movie with a wicked backhand. Fantastic film.

Rebel Without A Cause- Dated, overcooked, but also fascinating 50s melodrama from director Nicholas Ray. Hugely iconic, well acted, and beautifully shot, with shades of Sirk and Minellei in Ray's operatic use of color and sympathetic characters. Dated, especially in an age when today's youth are caught in an increasingly post-modern malaise, but the film anticipates that in many ways, and features a hugely iconic, almost mythic performance from James Dean. The film doesn't entirely know what it's about, but as Roger Ebert says, that's sort of the point.

The Happening- M. Night Shaymalan thriller that continues his career's downward spiral. A promising beginning and an interesting premise-there's something audacious in his instance on making nature a villain, and ominous shots of swaying trees are kind of cool. But sadly, the film eventually collapses under the weight of inane dialogue, stupid characters, and environmental preaching.

After Earth- Another Shaymalan flick, this one scaled by critics, it isn't quite as bad as they said. A few nice set pieces, more flat dialogue, some nice camera trickery. Forgettable, but inoffensive.

Groundhog Day- Harold Ramis' wonderful fantasy about a weatherman stuck in an endless time loop is nominally a comedy, but has a subtle darkness under its surface and a deeply spiritual core. Bill Murray has a role nearly tailor-made for him, and he and Ramis work real magic, making the film's simple high-concept premise into a deep, intelligent, and philosophical classic. One of the best films of the 1990s.

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#667519
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The Armchair Movie Critic thread
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I'm kind of a wannabe film critic anyway, I'm so despondent with my life right now, it seems as good a thing as any for me to be doing.

 

Anyhow, he's are some I've put up recently on various forums.

CABIN IN THE WOODS

"I can see by your eyes you must be lying, when you think I don't have a clue. Baby you're crazy if you think that you can fool me, because I've seen that movie too."
Elton John

"Maybe it's time we stop deconstructing things and start putting them back together."
Alan Moore

"Wise men talk because they have something to say. Fools talk because they have to say something."
Plato

And the geek shall inherit the earth. A combination of a pair the massive nerd-TV lords who've rapidly been overtaking Hollywood, Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon and Cloverfield scribe Drew Godard from J.J. Abrams's Bad Robot school, Cabin the Woods arrives after much publicity. A film that's been sitting on a shelf for a couple of years following the fallout of MGM, Hollywood's once mighty megabucks studio, Cabin the Woods was finally picked up by Lionsgate, and is at least in a multiplex near you for horror fans ready for a blast-of-fun bloodbath. Cabin in the Woods isn't a bad film, and for a certain fanboy, there's undeniable fun to be had. But I for one can't help but feel I'm outgrowing Joss Whedon. This might've seemed brilliant when I was 16, but these days, I just don't think "clever" is enough.

"You think you know the story?" So the poster proclaims, but of course, you at least partially do. A group of teens fitting into archetypes all head out for a secluded night where there's no cell phone reception, because apparently, even at this point in the 21st century, no one seems to grasp that getting off the grid to a place where you can't call for help is never a good idea. And the jock (Chris Hemsworth), the stoner (Fran Kranz), the dumb blonde (ex-Power Ranger Anna Hutchison), the nice guy (Jesse Williams), and the bookish virgin (well, as virginal as anyone nowadays-more in a minute) (sexy former soap star Kristen Connolly). They go to the cabin, ignoring the warnings of the weird old guy at the gas station who hasn't changed since The Hills Have Eyes, but beneath it, there's a massive organization reminiscent of the one in Buffy's fourth season, led by geek goddess Amy Acker, obviously designed to represent filmmakers, who manipulate the characters to make things play out as they want. In the basement, they find a variety of things from numerous horror subgenres, read out a mystic incantation in Latin, and bo and lehold, evil comes to kill.

Presumably, the idea of seeing cliches slightly subverted while still giving the audience what they want is supposed to be clever, as things play out like Whedon's usual genre mishmashing with everyone dying until the survivors break into the compound and unleash hell in the most literal sense. The last half-hour is a gorehound's paradise, as Whedon and Godard unleash every horror fan's dream of bringing together all of the genre and monsters into an action-packed battle. It's fun, certainly. But is that enough? Film buffs and horror fans have see this all before under numerous titles: Evil Dead II, the woefully unappreciated Wes Craven's New Nightmare, Scream, I Know What You Did Last Summer, Freddy vs. Jason, Shaun of the Dead, Kill Bill, Fright Night, Funny Games, Army of Darkness, Targets, Peeping Tom, Behind the Mask, Shadow of the Vampire, Grindhouse, Videodrome, Body Double, Piranha, and countless others.

Post-modernism has become films about films about films about films about films and culture is now eating itself. At its best, these films off some sort of commentary on the nature of storytelling or the importance of the tales (I'll plug Wes Craven's New Nightmare again; seriously, see it, it's brilliant.), or find some sort of social commentary like Shaun of the Dead (When Dana sneered "Me? A virgin?" and the Director quipped "We work with what we have." I was hoping for some commentary on changing social mores, but alas, it's just another smart-ass remark.), or at least attempt to do something interesting. But the genre has now been played so thoroughly from every possible angle that Whedon is just adding a new coat of paint, and his brand of smart-ass glibness is less subversive than it is simply smug and annoying. Yes, Joss, I've heard that joke before. The wording is different, the coat of pain is different, but it's stil the same. Godard certainly has skill behind the camera, but he doesn't quite make it into anything more than a fanboy dream, and his hand isn't deft enough to balance his multiple tones and balls in the air and cohere completely. That's fine, certainly. Cabin in the Woods offers up plenty of fanboy fun to be had, but ultimately the film winds up a bit between the two stools, not quite smart enough to be subversive, and not straightforward enough to just be old-fashioned fun like Dog Soldiers. In the end, the movie's self-satisfied tone, affectionate and satirical, but never quite cutting, doesn't make the pieces into the whole I would have hoped for. Again, that's fine, fun is OK, but The Cabin in the Woods isn't as clever as it thinks. To Whedon and Godard, even the end of the world is just a big cosmic joke.

 

A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET 2010

So, other than to cash in on a presold name, does this remake have any other reason for existing? Let me answer that for you: no. Thank you Michael Bay. Wes Craven's original is, to be sure, not a perfect film. It's edges are jagged, with some rather hammy acting and Craven's flat, obvious dialogue. But it had something this movie patently does not: a point. The film's themes (you know, what a movie is about other than special effects and making money) were intriguing, dealing with themes of memory and sexual repression, the evils behind small town facades, the lies parents tell, and the dangers of buries secrets, all in the guise of a standard slasher movie. An overachieving B-film, the kind that Hollywood simply doesn't make anymore. former English teacher Craven was witty and literate, lacing his film with intriguing concepts and literary and cinematic references to the likes of William Shakespeare and Luis Bunuel (Two people I'd bet Michael Bay has at best a negligible knowledge and understanding of).

Jackie-Earl Haley, who walked away with Watchmen under the nose of his castmates, does what he can with the thankless revision. I finally understand why Halloween fans were upset at the humanization of Michael Meyers: Freddy Krueger's essence with his ability to function as a sort of Jungian archetype, and the broad strokes the first film painted with all played into this. That's what happens when you're raised on literature and books rather than music videos, I suppose. Here, given a prehistory, Kreuger mercifully isn't transformed into the "sympathetic" character, but the attempts to give him a backstory make him less scary. Michael Meyers was the boogeyman. Why? After almost a decade of arguing with Carpenter fans who were clearly smarter than I was, I finally understand exactly why: it doesn't matter. Likewise, Freddy was a force of pure evil, and he killed the children of the parents who killed him. That was all that was really necessary. But Haley (back in full one-liner mode, make no mistake, and buried in makeup that looks like someone stuck Little Ceaser's on his face) ultimate conveys none of Robert Englund's elegant, almost charismatic menace, or his status as a sort of malevolent extension of the sins of the parents and the evil that festers in lies, repression, and deceit. Hayley's just mean and evil, which ultimately works up to a point, but diminishes the character by giving him character.

Music video vet Sam Bayer (I'd make some joke about Bay and his suffixed brethren, but quite frankly, I'm too tired) has none of Craven's ambient, spooky skill. Whereas Craven, drawing cinematically from the likes of Bunuel and perhaps Lynch captured the warped, fractured elasticity of dreams, Bayer takes an intriguing albiet illogical idea-dreaming while you're awake-and does manage to make some interesting choices (highlights: Freddy scratching the boiler cutting back the falling supermarket items, and Argento-esque "snowy bedroom" sequence), but these are generally few and far between, largely mildly inspired moments in an otherwise boring film. But his wild lighting style and wham-bam energy betray what could have been far more interesting and multilayered fusion of dreams and reality, especially in a medium as visual as cinema. Awash in the same sickly green the most of the Bay-produced Platinum Dunes remakes are, there are scant traces of any actual imagination on display, mostly cheap copies of the far better original shots and uninspired shock scenes shot with no sense of suspense, style, or energy. It ultimately gives the film the effect of simply trotting out Freddy when it thinks the audience is getting bored, rather than the "don't fall asleep" suspense that seems oh so obvious. If you start "micro-nappig," then ultimately, it's not so much suspense as shock. Too often, the movie opts for obvious jump scares and joy buzzer noises, making you jump out of your seat, but never worming its way under your skin or into your head. The sense of what made Freddy scary in the first place was that he ruled the dream realm, and was something evil and otherworldly. Here, he's just a slasher who jumps into the film every few minutes. Ultimately, by giving him as much freedom as they do, Freddy becomes less threatening, rather than someone you desperately attempt to wake up to escape from. Freddy shows up not because any sort of logic within the story allows it, but simply because, well, the screenwriters want him to sometimes because everyone else is so desperately boring.

Most disappointing is the action-packed and gore-soaked climax, a bloody action set piece that is ultimate just that: an action scene where eventually the bad guy is defeated. Even at 95 minutes, the movie feels too long, dragging its feet to take the characters to a preschool where an obvious plot point awaits in the basement. It's a more technically accomplished picture than it's predecessor, but a more soulless one. Simply effects repeated from the original (Freddy coming out of the wall, originally done simply using Spandex, and a bloody Tina throw around in a once scary, but now almost comical sequence, and Tina's appearance in a body bag) worked better in their two-and-a-half decade old incarnations because of the simple inventions on display. The new film isn't perhaps meritless. The film's two leads do their best with their paper-thin characterizations, making them possible to root for and not completely stupid, and as such attempt to give the film an emotional core it sorely lacks. Likewise, it's a competently made film in terms of its construction, editing, production design, and photography, and even if it's central storyline is blatantly obvious, it's effective enough to keep me mildly interested until the film runs out of steam around two-thirds of the way in. It works as a decent, throwaway slasher film, and is a mindless enough way to kill a few hours with a certain cheesy sense of fun. It's a well-crafted film, but a soulless one. Whereas Craven's original (and its woefully underappreciated true sequel New Nightmare) had universal truths and genuine terror at its dark heart, the only thing at the truly rotten heart of the new film is a loud, ringing cash till. Ka-ching.


BULLET TO THE HEAD


"Yeah, I know, it's only rock and roll, but I like it, yes I do."
The Rolling Stones

Though ostensibly a byproduct of the late 70s new Hollywood and the 80s buddy cop action pictures, Walter Hill has always been resolutely old-fashioned, an unpretentious heir to the John Ford and Howard Hawks school of no-nonsense filmmaking, lean and mean. In spite of a scattershot career in recent years, at his best, Hill is a director with a poetic eye for the kinetic, and in the age of overblown CG and incomprehensible editing, it's nice to see his economical storytelling rear its head again. At his best, Hill manages to transforms pulp into kinetic art, and turn archetypes into myth. Sadly, there's little of the latter here. A Bullet to the Head is loaded with more cliches and stock characters than bullet holes and some of the worst dialogue in recent memory. But for action fans pining for the glory days, it'll probably be just what the doctor ordered.

Adapted from a graphic novel called Du Plomb Dans La Tete by Alexis Nolent, who writes under the pen name Matz, with which I'm unfamiliar as apparently not a single library in my state has it, Bullet to the Head's storyline could charitably be called "minimalist" and less kindly be called stale, cliched, predictable, but Hill does his best to bring along some auteur chops to liven things up. The storyline, such as it is, involves Bobo (Sylvester Stallone, and no, I'm not making that name up.) a hitman who's partner gets clipped by a double-crossing employer. He eventually crosses paths with a cop named Kwon (Sung Kang), who's trailing the same killers he is. One is old, one is young, one relies on technology, one is resolutely analog, one has a strict vigilante code, the other adheres to the law books, you've heard all of this before. Naturally, a common enemy calls for an uncommon alliance, so they uneasily work together to bring down the bad guys. Like Kim Ji-Woon's equally entertaining The Last Stand, and indeed most of Hill's films, the movie is basically a Western in drag, full of aging gunfighters and strict masculine moral codes.

But it's the bad guys wherethe film excels, Hill dragging out a terrific rogue's gallery. Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's crippled godfather and Christan Slater's slimy businessman are appropriately evil, but the real showstopper is Jason Momoa as a hulking villain who drips malevolent charisma. He's a terrific physical match for Stallone. Though the fight choreographers are much-experienced with various martial artists, Hill keeps things stripped down and lean and mean, with good old-fashioned fisticuffs. Hill hasn't lost his eye for strangely beautiful kinetic mayhem, and you never, ever lose track of who's doing what to whom from where. Best of all though, Hill stages his action sequences with a viscera few directors can match, making you feel the blows and the pain rather than just marvel at the blocking and staging.

The film went through many troubled aspects during production, from a clash between Stallone and the original choice of director, to the insistence of megabucks producer Joel Silver to recast a role for mass box office appeal (You can see how well that works, but I digress....). The latter was decidedly a mistake, as Kang has zero chemistry with Stallone. Stallone, like Schwarzenegger, is on the verge of self-parody, and like Kim Ji-Woon, Hill tries to swing the pendulum the opposite way, taking advantage of his monolithic presence and make him an almost mythic figure equal to his granite figure and chiseled features. Sadly, Stallone looks largely bored, his tough-guy dialogue long-since rendered hackney and banal, but Hill tries to strip away as much of this as he can get the story to function on an archetypal level. Still, given the interference from Stallone and Silver, it raises major questions about just who was really in charge on the set, and the movie does generally feel like nearly all of its edges have been sanded off into a safe commercial product. Still, Hill does what he can. At his best, you can taste the air, feel the heat, smell the sweat, and feel the blows. While a far cry from that, the New Orleans atmosphere is a nice change of milieu, making for some nice ambiance and tasty swamp rock soundtrack.

On the whole, while massively flawed, action fans might still dig Bullet to the Head. It has all of the requisite violence, blood (Mercifully, none of it looks digital), nudity, and made-to-order character dynamics as Kang and Stallone trade insults while Kang falls for Stallone's unfeasibly glamorous daughter. It avoids CG and shaky cam whenever possible, Lloyd Ahern II's cinematography evokes the jazzy New Orleans atmosphere in nice colors and for those viewers hoping for a trip back to the olden days, Bullet to the Head is gloriously old-fashioned, and largely free of the post-modern smirk and pandering that most modern action films are afflicted with. It's the usual stuff-corrupt politicians, hit men with a moral code, cops who let them go, flying bullets, and shifting allegiances. In the hands of any other director, the whole enterprise would feel like a bit of direct-to-video junk, but Hill's chops elevate things when the can. The film doesn't exactly have emotional resonance or depth, but it sure is fun.

EVIL DEAD 4

Well, it's gory. Arriving as the latest in the seemingly endless spate of remakes, Sam Raimi, Robert Tapert, and Bruce Campbell themselves are on board as producer for the newest, hereafter called Evil Dead 4. For those familiar with the original, the storyline remains largely the same: a group of friends gather at a secluded cabin in the woods, though this time, instead of trying to party it down, they're attempting to a help a friend through detox. But one of them discovers a mysterious book in the basement, inked in blood and bound in flesh, and unleashes some very angry and vengeful demonic spirits, leading to a hell of a bloodbath.

Raimi's original film isn't the most substantiate film. It's storyline is paper thin, its characters are underwritten (Raimi himself is amusingly game in the DVD commentary, poking fun at many of the film's flaws), and it's obviously made on the cheap. But what it did have in spades, fleshed out even further in its mega-cult sequels, was a personality. Raimi's endless manic camera work and Bruce Campbell's endearing square-jawed hero Ash Williams have made the films choice cult-favorite for decades. Raimi managed to pitch the near-impossible high-wire act of blending dark humor with visceral horror, creating a film with a sense of identity to with its notoriety. Once you looked past the initial shock value, Evil Dead was a weird piece of art, its many striking visuals delivered by a director who, however young, however green, however unruly, was distinctive. First time-director Fede Alvaraez is clearly a horror fan as well, and there's no denying the new Evil Dead's a fanboy film, full of loads of splatter and gore, and it's an intense ride.

But even at its most violent, Raimi's films felt like some sort of weird modern pop-art. Like Dario Argento at his best, even the most gory shots were executed with a sort of artistic flair. Even today, the film, however dated and crude, tingles with a raw energy, manic imagination, and black humor. Alvarez takes a different route, going for a post-millennium endurance test-style horror film. That's not a bad thing, and Evil Dead 4 is reasonably entertaining as a balls-to-the-walls thrill ride. But it lacks the panache of Raimi's original, and more importantly, it's iconic lead (though those who stay through the credits will be treated to a delightful five-second cameo from Campbell himself). Indeed, part of the problem with the film is that it seems to switch protagonists around it's three-quarter mark. But that's just symptomatic of a larger issue: every character in the film is a dumb as rocks, and unfortunately, that joke seems to be lost on the filmmakers. As the charcters wander around cellars in spite of seeing dead bodies and refuses to turn on the lights as they approach their friends in the dark, you kind of want to hit them.

Alvarez piles on the gore in mountains, but but while there are many cringe-worthy, including a number of salacious closeups on the damage that can be done to the human body, but while it'll elicit many groans from the audience, it never encourages the audience to care enough to be involved beyond wondering about the makeup effects rather than caring about any of the film's characters. The film maintains an intense tone throughout, for many horror fans, there's bound to be a certain glee in the film's relentlessness. But the world looks different now, and there's just no recapturing the uniquely raw tone of the original that Raimi deftly mixed with jet black humor. The shocks now feel like they're trying too hard shock rather than just playing their hand-the infamous tree-rape restaged as a weird tentacle hentai-esque, for instance. Ultimately, the attempts at viscera lead to exhaustion, as the film descends into buckets of gore and raining literal blood. For genre fans, this might be some sort of perverse fun. But apart from a handful of striking images-Mia standing in front of a flaming cabin, the film's money shot of a head being spit in two with a chainsaw, but without Raimi's panache, the audience might eventually start to feel numb.

In the end, the flaws in the original film are simultaneously what make it work. By sanding off its edge, by being conscious of itself, Evil Dead 4 is to some extent undone by its eagerness to please. The original wasn't a classic at the time, just a gleefully creative work by a direction anxious to scare. Raimi's electrifying camera work and crazed sense of style weren't out to do anything other than play things straight, it had no shoes to fill. Raimi seemed to throw everything at the wall and make most of it stick, connecting his many images together into a bizarre but somehow distinctive whole. The new film seems too controlled, too conscious of the past, too interested in living up to expectation. Everything feels so calculated that the inensity feels manufactured rather than visceral. This gives the film its own charms, and many horror fans will likely take to its no-holds barred mayhem. It's a certain kind of fun, but quite the distinctive kind that makes the original film such a unique thrill ride. Raimi, Campbell, Tapert, and Alvarez have all done their best, but you get the sense that we've all sort of grown up a bit, and maybe this should've tried to stand by itself rather than throw its hat in the right with the much-loved series. It isn't as good as it could be, but it isn't terrible either. In the end, where Raimi managed to balance between two extremes, Alvarez sort of falls into the middle and negates them, tilting instead on the side of splattery thrill ride. It's fine, but will it inspire the cult fervor the original did and be remember 25 years down the road? Probably not. But for cheer and scream multiplex horror, it does its job well enough.


THE HOBBIT: AN UNEXPECTED JOURNEY


“Some who have read the book, or at any rate have reviewed it, have found it boring, absurd, or contemptible, and I have no cause to complain, since I have similar opinions of their works, or of the kinds of writing that they evidently prefer.”
J.R.R. Tolkien

Ah, I love it anyway. I still remember the sheer exhilaration of seeing Peter Jackson's The Fellowship of the Ring on the big screen, God help me, over a decade ago. Not since I'd first seen Star Wars on video as a child had I had such an exhilarating rush. Retrospectively, hindsight is 20-20, and having matured in many ways, I recognize many of the problems the films have, what aspects have already dated, but I don't care. To me, it's a reminder of the grandest possible kind of escapism, the best that money can buy, and more importantly, it remind me why I love going to the movies.

So more than ten years later, the prequel finally arrives, not as one film, as it should've, but as a new trilogy. Padded out or expanded upon, depending on who you ask, with bits from Tolkien's own appendices from The Lord of the Rings, (Evidently, the Tolkien estate is displeased with any film adaptations and retains the rights to The Silmarillion and all of Tolkien's other work.), the new film arrives at last. Initially planned, as a fascinating what-if, for director Guillermo del Toro, who left after the dragged out and much-publicized financial fallout of MGM and the film's troubled production, though he's still collaborated on the screenplay and done some creative consulting. Jackson himself eventually stepped back into the director's chair, splitting the film not into two, as it was originally rumored to be, but into a whole new trilogy. Was it worth the wait? Does it live up the astronomical expectations? That depends on how much you like Jackson's particular bombastic brand of blockbuster. Me personally? I love it.

As everyone no doubt knows from the previous trilogy, Bilbo Baggins of the Shire was a Hobbit, visited upon by the great wizard Gandalf, and whisked along with a band of gruff dwarves to reclaim their gold and their homeland from the evil Dragon Smaug. Well, this time, it's not just the dragon, but a huge band of Orcs as well, led by the Pale Orc Azog, the Defiler. Along the way, they encounter trolls, bands of goblins, glowing magical swords, tunnels, stone giants, the Elves who abandoned them the first time around, fellow wizard Rhadagast, vicious wargs, soaring eagles, a large menagerie of other mystical creatures, and a mysterious creature named Gollum, who's in possession of a rather special golden ring....

In addition, Jackson and co have added a veritable guest-list of cameos from previous LOTR alums, starting with a prologue to recall Fellowship in which Bilbo tells of the dwarves, their many magical inventions and treasures, and their displacement from their homeland by the great dragon. Add to this a subplot, presumably to be paid off in future installments, about the White Council preparing to battle a mysterious Necromancer who'll turn out to be Sauron, and the film is jam-packed with the special effects and battle that gave the first films their large following.

Jackson's post LOTR career has met with a rather mixed reception, and while he could be called many things, "subtle" has never been one of them. The Hobbit is a very tonally different book from The Lord of the Rings trilogy, with much less epic sweep. It's a children's novel, the greatest strength of which comes from its simple narrative and sense of swashbuckling fun. These two tones are at odds throughout the film, with sweeping battlefield shots recalling LOTR and comic interludes straight out of the novel. Jackson juggles these balls with much energy and skill, but they never quite cohere. Many sequences seems to go one for much longer than many an editor would perhaps deem necessary, and much of the adolescent humor does grow a bit tiresome in places. The real magic that infused LOTR isn't gone as many reviewers have said, but it is more scattershot. Still, once the film picks up after the trolls, the three hours fly by on my watch.

On a technical level, it's a hard film to fault. Jackson's usual collaborators are almost all here. DP Andrew Lesnie gives the film a glowing sheen, WETA Workshop and WETA Digital's armor and weapons are impeccable and their menagerie of creatures given great personality and monstrosity. Jackson doesn't quite have del Toro's skill for finding dark fairy-tale beauty among some of his monsters, but they don't lack for personality or wonder. The Wargs still don't entirely look right, the Great Goblin's phallic chin is really disconcerting, and Azog is suitably scarred, frightening, and feral, but he looks a bit like and albino reject from Avatar. Shame he couldn't have been done with makeup like Fellowship's Lurtz. But with a rumored budget of nearly $300 million, this is a huge endeavor, and Jackson does his damnedest to get get every cent up on the screen, and it looks beautiful. Jackson has even buried the hat her with composer Howard Shore after their much publicized artistic feud, and it's lucky he has, because Shore's scores were as integral to Jackson's visions of Middle earth as John Williams was to Star Wars. A pox upon Warner Brother Records, incidentally, for dropping the Complete Recordings CD boxed sets out of print.

The biggest behind the scenes change-up comes from the myriad of second unit directors from the Rings trilogy being replaced by Andy Serkis, who's minimal screen time as Gollum frees him up. The action is as impressive as ever, though success does occasionally breed excess (A ridiculous multilayered crash through caves followed by surfing on broken wood after killing the Great Goblin and the dwarves hanging from the tree already bent over the cliff being the most egregious.). Still, on the battlefield, Jackson's eye is as strong as ever, and a number of sequences, if not innovative, are so exhilarating, it hardly matters. Jackson, as ever, gives every sword slash and metallic clang the force of cannons, and the mass chaos is expertly choreographed by an ace stunt team. The late, great Bob Anderson's sword choreography is much missed, but his able replacement and the rest of the stunt team clash swords and sorcery with much breathtaking virtuosity.

Likewise, as before, the film is cast to the hilt with master thespians, there're no Schwarzeneggers around to transform everything into one-liners. Freeman is a terrific lead for the audience to see things through, and counterpointed with Holm, the character development that transforms the timid Hobbit into what we know he'll become is a delight. Richard Armitage gives Thorin a nice regal bearing, McKellen's Gandalf is brilliant as ever, and the new cast almost all fill in Tolkien's magical world and inhabit their characters superbly. Tolkien himself gave them backstory to spare, and it gives the motley crew a great sense of personality which Jackson and crew amply exploit. The journey may be long, but I like these guys and they're fun to ride with. Gollum is back too, and the riddles in the dark sequence, colored by Jackson's horror film roots, is brilliant and spine-tingling. Azog is obviously an attempt to give the film's villain a face before the arrival of Smaug (Who's CG model, judging by the film's teasing final shot, is likely unfinished), and he's suitably menacing. Whether the film is simply overstuffed, or if Jackson is hinting at future riches to be explored in the rest of the new trilogy remains to be seen, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that it's the latter.

Yeah, there're problems, but frankly, I don't care. This what entertaining filmmaking is all about. Jackson happily inhabits a world where Old Hollywood's straight-faced swashbuckling never died, and there's a refreshing lack of pretentious and post-modern crassness, irony, and pandering. The enterprise is straightforward and exhilarating, and dressed with the best and most elaborate SFX and set dressing that modern technology can buy. The film's flaws may stick out more strongly on repeat viewings, it may not have the staying power that the great storytelling of its source material and the films Jackson clearly loves and wants to emulate do. But it takes me back to being a kid again when I still believed in movie magic and was swept off into wondrous worlds when I turned on the TV rather than sitting and wondering about SFX, story structure, and all of the other technical things of which I'm aware now. It's just fun. It's Christmas, and I'm happy to unwrap my presents. I got just what I asked for. This is why I go to the movies.

 

PACIFIC RIM


Arriving halfway through a summer loaded with known franchises and sequels, Pacific Rim is an odd creature. Boasting no major stars, a director know primarily for dark art-house fantasies and off-kilter modestly budget comic-book properties, and a combination of genre known to few outside of geekdom, Pacific Rim stomps into theaters on a $190 million dollar budget. Guillermo del Toro's loving valentine to the mecha anime and kaiju eiga tokusatsu of his youth, Pacific Rim is a fanboy fever dream creature-feature. The film is knowingly silly, full of telegraphed plot points and obvious but chewy dialogue, and like many "genre filmmakers," words are not del Toro's strongest suit, giving the film a much stronger sense of ideas underpinning than ultimately displayed in the actual narrative in execution. The film isn't brainless, but many of its ideas are either articulated too directly through rather blunt dialogue or tossed somewhere in the post-modern blender mix that the film winds up being. But whereas many post-Nolan blockbusters aim for dark and dour, Pacific Rim's greatest strength is its gleeful, childlike exuberance. It's just so damn much fun.

The narrative revolves around Kaiju, a series of giant monsters that would make Eiji Tsubraurya gleefully proud, rising out a of a rift in the pacific ocean. Mankind pours all of its resources into destroying them through traditionally military means before realizing that another approach is required: the Jaegers, gigantic mecha-style robots somewhere between the anime mecha of the Gundam anime franchises and the towering tokusatsu that populate many Super Sentai series. Piloted by two humans who work in tandem via a psycic link known as "the Drift," they're not sleek and agile, but del Toro's visionary eye gives them great weight and personality. Mankind, like in many an Ishiro Honda tokusatsu classic, puts aside their differences to face a common foe, and del Toro's cast of characters, however archetypical, have a nicely international flavor. As the attacks worsen and funding for the Jaegers is pulled, a washed-up mecha pilot (Charlie Hunnam), a badass military commander (Idris Elba), a pair of nerdy scientists (Charlie Day, who bears an uncanny resemblance to J.J. Abrams, and Burn Gorman), a black-market monster organs dealer (a hilariously flamboyant Ron Peralman), a Japanese pilot (Rinko Kikuchi), and a handful of other motley characters make their last stand.

Pacific Rim boasts way more style than substance, and those looking for the rich political underpinning of del Toro's best films like Pan's Labyrinth or The Devil's Backbone may be disappointed. The film boasts many interesting ideas and themes-mankind uniting for a common cause, the Drift's obvious symbolic value of the necessity of cooperation for mankind, but they're shuffled within the mix of its narrative. The plot beats are all out of a screenwriting handbook, and most of the character moments, in spite of strong performances by the actors, feel wrote rather than felt. But if it is style over substance, what style it is! Whereas Michael Bay's Transformers films managed to mangle 30 years of mythology and merely confuse audiences with their poorly-designed robots and the director's hyperactive camera and amphetamine editing, del Toro's have a rich sense of scale. The designs, culled from a variety of sources, have a great sense of physical weight, richly detailed monsters, and model-kit ready bulky robots, full of del Toro's loving clockwork detail. The human pilots make the Jaegers feel very alive, del Toro's obsessive sense of detail giving them personalities all their own.

Pacific Rim feels, even at 132 minutes, like there's way more to explore. The film's world is so rich, many ideas are frustratingly unexplored, or glossed over-the possible social commentary in the jobs (and dangers thereof) created by the building of the Jaegers and the walls. The film's central theme of mankind internationally uniting in the face of crisis, harkening back to many Ishir? Honda classics like Gorath, the black market for kaiju organs, the day-to-day lives of the characters living in fear. The film winds up slightly pitched between del Toro's own personal and political fascinations and visual aesthic approaches and its commercial need. The film by no means feels impersonal, but as a work-for-hire project, del Toro is forced to concede the needs of blockbuster filmmaking. The film is a massive post-modern pastiche, firstly recalling past films, such kaiju classics as Godzilla, Rodan. del Toro's signature blend of highbrow visual art like his cited influence of Hokusai's The Great Wave off Kanagawa & Francisco Goya's The Colossus, pulp like the clean lines of Jack Kirby, the rough edges and fervent kineticism of man manga and anime, and of course the great robots that populate so many tokusatsu classics like Giant Robo and Super Sentai. Put them all in a blender, and hit "liquefy." Some of it works, some of it doesn't but the film feels like the work of an artist, sometimes silly and unconcerned with Hollywood realism,but always director's uniquely poetic eye and sense of explosive imaginatiion.

But if the dialogue is clunky, the sheer vision is positively breathtaking. The performances are all pitch-perfect, giving the film a nice sense of character to go with the spectacle. I for one would've liked to have seen more the Russian and Chinese Jeagers. But the film feels positively like opera in places, a rich 7.1 surround sound track giving every blow the feel of sonic booms. The film's many elements generally always work in tandem, when they do, the film evokes the perfect blend of childlike wonder, awe, glee, pathos, and emotion. Some plot beats are pretty familiar, and seem more wrote than felt, but the actors do their best with them, and they go a long way towards selling the film's fantastic world. The film's many smackdowns between the kaiju and the Jagers are exhilarating, del Toro's grasp of scale with canted low angles, interactions with the environment, and an almost mythic sense of awe. And that's Pacific Rim's greatest achievement, that it evokes the childlike sense of fun many youngsters found in these monster movies in the first place, a window into imaginative, fantastic worlds found on late-night movies and beat-up VHS tapes. Whatever its flaws, the film is so damn much fun, it's hard to resist. It isn't doing the business that WB and Legendary hoped in theaters, but like many of del Toro's films, hopefully it will do its best business on video. It has cult favorite written all over it. You're hearing the word "kaiju" in a $190 million summer blockbuster fanboys. Sit back, and have the time of your life. Clearly, del Toro sure is. And stick around after the credits for a brief text tribute to monster-maestros Ishir? Honda and Ray Harryhausen. You sense the masters would approve.

Hey I heard the word "kaiju" in a summer movie multiplex where there was an Adam Sandler flick in the next screen. I never thought I'd live to see the day.

 

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SilverWook said:

This has been a bit of a trend with music for a while. I was pretty annoyed when some tracks from the Tron Legacy soundtrack were not on the CD. They were only on Itunes, or a limited edition 2 disc set overseas that became Ebay fodder. I want the whole damn score, dammit!

Clearly, someone at Paramount have been hitting the Romulan ale to come up with a greedy, asinine idea like this, and piss off the fans.

What I find especially peculiar about it is that you'd think they'd be doing the opposite. Not only is physical media the collector's market, but it's also more expensive. Wouldn't they want to put the extra stuff there to offer more incentive?

pittrek said:

What a bunch of assholes. I'm definitely NOT buying the Bluray unless they release a PROPER version of it.

 

If they do, of course. And he is 100% right about the director's cuts that're still MIA on Blu-Ray too. And if they didn't come out to coincide with this, we aren't likely to them at any point in the future. Maybe if a third film comes out or for the 50th anniversary in 2016 (which is a ways out), but doubtful.

 

Ryan McAvoy said:

pittrek said:

What a bunch of assholes. I'm definitely NOT buying the Bluray unless they release a PROPER version of it.

Sadly I'm probably with you. Was looking forward to STID on BR but I can't support treating fans like this. Maybe I'll wait 'til it shows up second hand then my hands stay clean. Audio commentaries are a deal maker/breaker for me. I'll buy any Ridley Scott film (Even the ones I hate) if he's included a commentary (He usually does) because they are so good. Same for Coppola and Scorsese and JJ's commentary on ST2009 was great. Sad face.

Games are going the same way with the last one I played being the new 'Tomb Raider'. A superb game (One of the best ever in fact) that never the less left a sour taste in my mouth. It came with zero unlockable bonus content (Like skins, weapons, maps etc) for achieving anything. All of which were available day-one to pay for.

But when I discovered you had to pay a fee to take the game to 100% completion, I was absolutely disgusted. Like turning the page to the last chapter of a book and finding a white page with the words "F*ck you pay me" typed in middle.

100% agree. What I find especially worrisome about it is that with physical media quickly dying, maybe Paramount and Microsoft are just ahead of the curve and are the fist to make unpopular decisions. Look, I'll pay more for this stuff. I'll pay more for imports. I bend over backwards to do these things legally. And this is the thanks I get? To say nothing of the horseshit of an iTunes version, which I can't watch anywhere except my computer or an APPLE TV, since, they won't let me put the damn thing I paid for through the streaming on my Blu-Ray player.

Johnny Ringo said:

What a dick move.

This sort of thing will end up hurting themselves as it will encourage piracy.

I'm hoping that there'll be a double-dip six months down the line (Something I never thought I'd hear myself say!), or a disc from another region that has everything, but my biggest concern is that neither will happen.

 

Jay, update the forums, quite apart from a search function that actually works, we need a multi-quote button!

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Is Harris' offer still open? Could Disney hire him if they're working on the hypothetical restorations? Will they? If what is being suggested is true (OOT footage was dumped, the rest was restored), then it sounds line there'd be a lot less restoration to do. But that sounds too good to be true, and that's if Disney is interested in a restoration. 

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Mielr said:

 


Ryan McAvoy said:
These days fan word of mouth can really boost or fatally damage a film.


Makes me think of "The Lone Ranger." Depp is blaming the critics' reviews for the film's failure and Disney has lost an estimated $190 million.

They can make some of that back with a proper OOT release. ;-)

 

What bugs me is that whenever a badly reviewed film like all of the Transformers movies does well, the studios and producers go "Bah! Stupid critics! They don't know anything!" But then when a film that got bad reviews bombs they say it wouldn't have if it hadn't gotten bad reviews. I can't work both ways guys. The Lone Ranger might've been an interesting movie if Verbinski has actually decided which one he wanted to make. It bounced from shockingly violent Peckinpah-esque deconstruction to knockabout slapstick. And it was way, way, way, way too long. The Lone Ranger and John Carter of Mars (I will not remove the "of Mars" from the title, even if Disney does) both counted as big bombs. I'm hoping that'd contribute to a desire to release the OOT, but we'll see.

Fang Zei said:

How appropriate that the youtube commenter put DVD in all caps. Yes, it was released on dvd, which unfortunately allows for quite a range of quality (the GOUT, for example, was an IVTC'd laserdisc master). But we still don't have the original versions on blu-ray, do we?

Mike O, there's nothing to stop Disney and Fox from working out a deal right now. They need not wait until 2020. It's only the distribution rights, anyway. If Disney didn't mind seeing a small portion of those blu-ray sales going to Fox, they could release the damn thing right now. The only real problem is the distribution rights to the '77 film are apparently Fox's FOREVER. I guess maybe that's something dating back to 1977 that didn't change when they voluntarily handed the film back over to Lucas in the mid-90's.

Yeah, theoretically no, but it'll depend on how much they're willing to share and build bridges. And with this much money on the line, I'm wondering if they'd be willing to do it. But we're talking about the dealing of multibilliondollar corporations too, I'm sure there's plenty going on that we don't know.

Fang Zei said:

DominicCobb said:

I think the sooner someone asks LFL about their position on the OUT at this time the better. No doubt they have a position, so it'd be great to know for sure what it is. And to make it clear there are still people out here that want to see these movies.

Indeed it's surprising we haven't heard anything yet. It's been the better part of a year since the Disney deal. Maybe the plans for the OOT haven't been finalized yet and they don't want to say anything until making the grand announcement.

Or maybe nothing is happening and this is all just speculation, which is far more likely.

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Fang Zei said:

At this point, an OOT release isn't so much a matter of "if" but "when" and "how" and "what." How will they go about restoring it? Will they include the '97 version for completionism's sake? What about the prequels? Will they now be stuck in their revised form on blu-ray while the OOT remains available?? What about the "official" version of the OT? Will it be re-scanned or will the lowry master linger on even longer?

"When?" At the earliest, probably 2020 when Fox loses the rights to ESB and ROTJ, but I still think it's an "if." And even if they do, last time we got the GOUT, there isn't any reason to believe it'll be a proper restoration. Probably not any time soon, if at all.

 

Ryan McAvoy said:

Does anybody actually care about getting untouched versions of the PT?

Not being sarcastic, genuinely interested.

Personally I'd be quite happy for all prints of TPM puppet yoda being burned and erased from existence. I care much more about getting ALL the PT deletedmaterial released in HD. Alternate line deliveries, deleted scenes and crucially the half of each movie before it was reshot/f*cked up at the pickup stage. Then faneditors can use it to make even better cuts.

Plus as far as I know all changes have been to add little bits here and there (Taxi, Podrace etc) so at least the material is out there in HD. Unlike the OT where it doesn't exist. Feel free to correct me on this if I'm mistaken.

Well nominally no, but if we are going to take a stand about film preservation and Lucas' historical revisionism, we can't just say it doesn't apply to the PT because we don't like it or we'd be hypocrites. To say nothing of THX1138, which is never, ever, ever getting a proper release.

 

Mielr said:"The OOT was already released on DVD- so why don't you losers just quit complaining and watch them?!" comments.


 

Ah, yes the GOUT is now a catch-22. How joyous.

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Baronlando said:

http://www.foxconnect.com/star-wars-trilogy-episodes-iv-vi.html

So I guess this is just some pointless repack?

Presumably a DVD version of the changes made to the BR edition for the 9 people interested. Even if it is the OOT, which of course it isn't, It's still not a Blu-Ray release anyway.

 

Wolfman said:

Baronlando said:

It's probably the newest version on its own DVD. A lot of young kids watch regular DVD, so this makes sense. After all, there's a whole new generation that needs to be utterly bullshitted about what a 35 year old movie looks like.

 Right on ! Quoted for truth.

My thoughts exactly, more revisionist history to further the successful campaign to let more people see the vile SE versions.

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CatBus said:

Laserschwert said:

generalfrevious said:

At least (hopefully) it won't be letterboxed like last time. I'd rather have a DNR'd OT than have them sit in a basement at LFL's offices.

It will definitely be letterboxed, because there are no anamorphic Blu-rays.

Don't be so sure. They could crop it to 16:9 ;-)

A new official OUT release just opens the discussion of how badly they could screw it up.  I still think the best-case scenario is they release the '81 crawl on Star Wars with the '93 mixes all around and they're still pretty faded.  The good news is that it pretty much has to be new scans.

So yeah, yay for new sources for Harmy to fix up and make presentable...

If you can't do something correctly, you shouldn't do it at all. I'd love to be more optimistic about this, but even if it does happen, they still have plenty of things they can fuck up. 

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dvdmike said:

I got censored for saying it on bluray.com so will say it here:

 

Bill Hunt has a black spot for Fox

He reviewd the DNR mess of Patton and said it was great

He lied and said all 4 Alien films had a new master, only 2 did

He says every year for the last 4 years that True Lies and the Abyss are coming out this year and that he has in inside tip.

 

Guy just makes up shit for hits, or he trusts someone that is full of shit.

Either way until there is a real Announcement from FOX then I do not trust his bullshit 

This. There have been rumors flying ever since the Disney purchase, but nothing substantive. Until some rep from the corporation says something, I think is fanboy wishful thinking.