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#1141910
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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moviefreakedmind said:

The blu rays were pretty cheap to make I bet. I think the deleted scenes were just things that they happened to be scanning for archival purposes anyway and the transfer of the films were same.

I’d like to believe that the OUT is the only selling point left if the trilogy comes out again, and the Disney love double dips and their vaults. I’d really, really, really like to believe that.

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#1141906
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Fang Zei said:

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I sincerely hope that you’re right, but god dammit, when?!

If this Fox buyout actually goes through, maybe a whole lot sooner than we’d thought.

God willing, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

Wazzles said:

Fang Zei said:

If memory serves, the stuff everyone was looking forward to about the blu-ray bonus discs (deleted scenes, vintage docs) were very OT-centric, and this is back when George was still in charge!

That’s partly because the special features for the PT in the Complete Saga set are horrible. There is so many good features in the DVD releases it’s a damn shame they didn’t bring them over for the BD.

There is a special place in hell for people who don’t archive extras and make fans double-dip.

ray_afraid said:

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?

Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?

Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”

If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.

I used to feel this way, but they let that boat sail.
I’m not buying even one more movie to get the three I want.

I still feel this way, and I’m fairly sure that if we’re lucky enough to get the OUT, then at best, we’ll be getting it in a giant set that’s overpriced as an extra. The thought of getting it on it’s own for a good price seems like a pie-in-the-sky dream.

chyron8472 said:

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?

Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?

Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”

If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.

I have a sincere, doubtful suspicion whether the studio would put anywhere near the quality of effort into a restoration as Harmy (and co.) has. I do want an OUT Remaster, especially since I can then legitimately prefer an existing HD OUT without being labelled “nerdy” or “purist”, but I don’t think it will hold a candle to Despecialized. There was just so much painstaking attention to detail put in.

In other words, I have to figure out how to get my Blu-ray burner working 😉. In all seriousness, what Harmy has accomplished is pretty amazing, but frankly, Disney would have access to the original master materials and industry professional technology.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

You’re kidding, right? Despecialized is amazing and we are all grateful to Harmy, but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a color corrected 1080p transfer interlaced with shots from laser disc and minimally restored 35mm.

Yeah, I mean what Harmy has accomplished pretty damned amazing, but like I said, Disney would have access to professional restoration equipment and billions of dollars of technology, not to mention prints, original elements, etc.

Darth Cracker said:

rodneyfaile said:

Please! Expect complete silence regarding the originals for the foreseeable future. It’s the only way to remain sane. I allowed myself to get my hope up for the 40th at Celebration for no reason at all. As soon as George walked out I knew it wasn’t going to happen.

I’m with you on this. Not getting my hopes up on an OT release all over again. The 40th was the time to do it, or to at least acknowledge it as a thing.

The surprise John Williams concert was nice though.

After getting burned as badly as I did by the GOUT announcement, I’ve learned to not get my hopes up about any of the OUT news anymore. I’ve just sort of resigned myself that the chances are slim and none.

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#1141307
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
Time

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?

Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?

Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”

If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.

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#1141057
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
Time

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I sincerely hope that you’re right, but god dammit, when?!

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#1139749
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
Time

GlastoEls said:

Mike O said:

LordStarkiller said:

Seems the deal is done:

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/sorry-deadpool-ryan-reynolds-x-mens-wolverine-avengers-unite-disneyfox-close-acquisition-deal-752102

I’m assuming Star Wars was part of the deal? They don’t mention it.

Eh? Specifically mentions 20th Century Fox.

I know, I just found it odd that they mentioned X-Men and not Star Wars.

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#1139712
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Stalvern said:

Mike O said:
That title is immensely offensive to the English language. I would sort of like a Heart of Darkness type documentary about what really went down on that set and in that editing room though.

Heart of Darkness is a VERY charitable comparison. I think it would be closer to Lost Soul.

Good point. I’d love to know what really happened.

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#1139547
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
Time

fmalover said:

While I like the idea of having all SW movies under one roof and finally incorporating the Fantastic 4 and the X-Men into the MCU, I think you guys should watch John Oliver’s video on corporate consolidation to understand why Disney buying Fox scares me. I personally don’t like the idea of one company owning such a huge chunk of the entertainment industry, plus it would leave us with only five major movie studios: Disney, Paramount, Sony, Universal and Warner Brothers.

The idea of Disney owning almost everything like it a giant Weyland-Yutani corporation is of course disconcerting. I understand that. I really do. But the vague, remote, even wish possibility of the OUT getting remastered is really clouding my judgement here.

SilverWook said:

I was a big fan of early FF run and the '60’s Hanna-Barbera animated version.

Good luck finding the HB version 😦. I understand the historical importance of the early comics, but old Stan Lee books are really hard for me to get into.

SilverWook said:

Keep in mind they’re not getting any Fox television or cable networks in this deal. All Disney gets is the studio and the film library, which is arguably the crown jewel in all of this.

Which raises other questions about what level of treatment Disney would give many Fox films, what’d happen to the archive series, etc.

Fox said no, Marvel got DD back, and we got Fan4stic.

That title is immensely offensive to the English language. I would sort of like a Heart of Darkness type documentary about what really went down on that set and in that editing room though. There’s not really a good movie in there anywhere trying to get out, but it does have a small number of interesting bits, and Trank was a really interesting choice on paper.

TK-949 said:

It may also include a proper Buffy remaster and a continuation of Firefly.

I think we’ll see a remaster of the theatrical version of THX 1138, Hong Kong action cinema getting treated well on video, the theatrical cut of The Warriors in HD, before we see either of those. Incidentally, do they also own the rights to Angel?

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#1138573
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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SilverWook said:

Mike O said:

SilverWook said:

Mike O said:

Handman said:

LucasFilm has posted a film archiving job.
https://jobs.disneycareers.com/job/san-francisco/film-archive-internship-lucasfilm-summer-2018/391/6379697

If only this could save THX 1138

Fans are doing it for themselves. All good things take some time.

There aren’t an HD sources for the lost scenes, are there?

You should just follow the THX thread.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/THX-on-35mm-Tech-IB-preservation-HELP-NEEDED/id/48681

I never cease to be amazed by the effort behind fan edits.

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#1138547
Topic
Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
Time

TM2YC said:

To take the most pessimistic view… assuming Disney do want to acquire Fox and get full ownership of the OT before a re-release. It could mean that such a re-release will 100% not happen until they do get that ownership, which may take years.

Well, we know it’ll happen with everything except Star Wars 77 in 2020 regardless.

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#1136960
Topic
The Place to Go for Emotional Support
Time

Damn compulsions. Working retail during the holiday season is so fucking stressful. And it still spike up my obsessive thoughts from time-to-time. Objectively, I’m better in some ways, but I’m so tired of this stuff returning and interfering with my life. I’m also just NOT putting in the work. I’m going to be blunt: I’m getting fat and I’m not excercising. I’m not practing what my therapist is recommending. I’m simply not putting the work I should be. It’s one thing to say that. It’s another to act on any of it.

Sorry to all of the lonely folks here. For what it’s worth, which is essentially nothing, I’m glad to know everyone here. You’ve all been kind and supportive and helped me move in the right direction, and I’m appreciative and for the best for everyone here.

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#1136848
Topic
Last comic read
Time

All-Star Superman- In typical Grant Morrison fashion, his imagination explodes across the pages of this 12-issue take on the Man of Steel. I’m not entirely sure I understood all of it, and would love to read some analysis. It’s connected in interesting ways to Morrison’s JLA fun and especially the DC One Million event he did in its pages. It’s lots of fun, and really, really stunning to look at thanks to Quietly’s clean but intricately detailed artwork. I feel like there a lot more to it than I could get in a single reading.