Mielr

The history is fascinating, though unfortunately I know of few people outside film-themed forums whose eyes wouldn't glaze over at such discussions. ;-)

There used to be a dye-transfer lab in China (after the last Technicolor lab in England closed in 1978) but I think that one is gone now too. Richard W. Haines used the Chinese lab for his films and he wrote an article in 1991 for The Perfect Vision magazine called "The Return of Glorious Technicolor" which is very informative, if you can find it.

NeverarGreat said:


So essentially the Technicolor film would be created based on the color separations, which were printed on Eastman stock.

If they are from SE prints, it's doubtful much fading would be evident. Willitts Designs sold 70mm cels from all 3 OT films from pre-SE prints in the mid-90's and so far only the ROTJ prints show significant signs of fading (different stock used).

True dye-transfer prints did not use a photochemical process so there was no Technicolor "stock" per se. They used blank/clear strips of "film" for their printing (which was a lithography-type process).

On a side note, I don't think any true IB Print would say "Eastman Safety" because that denotes a photochemical stock.

http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/oldcolor/technicolor1.htm

It's interesting, though, and definitely worth a bit more research. It's too bad that the cels are 'scope.

Let's remember that the name "Technicolor" was used long after the dye-transfer prints stopped being made. The company retained the name so "Technicolor" does not automatically mean IB prints.

ABC Airs "COUNTDOWN TO THE OSCARS: 15 MOVIES THAT CHANGED AMERICAN CINEMA" tonight 2/17/15 at 10pm EST.

I imagine SW will be included in which case there may be some new interview clips worth watching. We'll see....

TV's Frink said:

Mielr said:

"I know"

"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?!"

"I'm nice men"

"We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

"Would it help if I got out and pushed?"

"It's not my fault!"

 I take it this is your rough draft.

"I know"

"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?!"

"I'm nice men"

"We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?"

"Would it help if I got out and pushed?"

"It's not my fault!"

msycamore said:

Not that this answer of mine has any bearing on althor1138's original question. But it depends on what pressing of the DC you own. At least one shot utilizes another source on early pressings of the DC (lightsaber shot in Ben's Hut). While the replacement seen on the Faces LD and the Bonus Feature DVD fixed a quite severe case of DVNR, it introduced another flaw here which is incorrect aspect ratio. But on the other hand those early DC pressings lacked the "Leia welding scene" in ESB among other things, so it's more of an early production flaw than a "true difference."

Ridiculously enough, the tranfers on the LD's overall displays slightly more vertical detail compared to the Bonus Feature DVD's and if we're going to be even more picky, different amounts of complete frames. And the LD's of course contains the 1981 re-release crawl on the first film. The latter might be enough to some collectors.

There is a fun novelty in owning a LD player and LDs, but I personally don't think I would have spent money on a LD player if I'd known the GOUT DVDs were coming out. The image quality is far better on the DVDs, and you can find the JSC and other releases on fan edits if you're interested in seeing the differences between the different sources. The only real advantage the DC and Faces discs have are the PCM soundtracks, which blow the GOUT discs away, but the PCM tracks are available on fan edits as well.

althor1138 said:

It is not present in the DC. I can't say for sure about the faces. I only own esb(faces).

Wolfman said:

Costumes are displayed on mannequins but there are some costumes such as Chewbacca which show the individual mask and feet.
Great stuff !

SilverWook said:

Mielr said:

Leia clearly had some "force" powers when she heard Luke calling her, post-duel, under Cloud City. Maybe she wasn't Luke's sister at that point, but I think she was the "other" Yoda referred to and it wasn't much of a stretch then in ROTJ to reveal she had acquired her abilities due to being part of the Skywalker clan.

 It can be interpreted both ways. Leia was the only one Luke could try to contact because of the strong feelings between them. He knew something had happened to Han. It might have been dicey to try calling Chewie, and he certainly didn't know Lando.

Electronic Laser Battle Game. Still works---just tested it out with my nephew a few months ago.

http://youtu.be/HJWCN7c9ZJ4

Can't wait to get this one:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1452138052/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3KLBNJ9RPP3U6&coliid=I2DL6VET0VON6C

Looks great & SW-OT costumers are sure to love it. I hope it's true that many of the photos are previously unseen.

Leia clearly had some "force" powers when she heard Luke calling her, post-duel, under Cloud City. Maybe she wasn't Luke's sister at that point, but I think she was the "other" Yoda referred to and it wasn't much of a stretch then in ROTJ to reveal she had acquired her abilities due to being part of the Skywalker clan.

I saw the first two films in movie theaters in 1982 (pre-ROTJ re-releases). I saw ROTJ on opening day, May 25th 1983.

Actually, I saw the first several minutes of SW at a friend's house on bootleg video in 1977 or 1978, but my Mom said we had to go home so I didn't get to watch the rest of the film. :-(

Uh, oh. I think that twitter handle is going to have to be changed to "Harrison Ford's LEG" :-/ That kind of injury is tough to recoup from at 71.

Tobar said:

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Zg-UBTr1U">Does anyone know where this footage originated from?</a>

Doesn't look like the Behind the Magic CD-ROM as I don't recall it having behind the scenes footage like that. Guy says the whole thing is 12 minutes long.

Is that Marsha Lucas in that one shot?

Thought I'd bump this thread rather than start a new one...

Lest we forget, today is Star Wars' 37th birthday. Lots to look forward to in the SW universe, hopefully.

I've enjoyed the efforts of both Harmy and Adywan, and the recent releases of SW '77 and SW SE by TeamBlu are just fantastic, for anyone who hasn't seen them yet (I prefer the '77 version, of course). ;-)

I hope Disney decides to release the OOT soon, but if they don't, there are some wonderful options for purists (like myself) and revisionists alike.

This thread is starting to resemble some of the conversations on the YouTube OOT clips that I uploaded in '06. I'm astonished at how little understanding some people have for art in the context of the time period in which it was created. If someone constantly wants something upgraded and revised so that the current generation can "relate" to it, you're never going to persuade them on the merits of history or art, or even nostalgia. It's pointless ---- they will never understand. They have a flawed thought process, IMO.

pittrek said:

I'd love to see an 8K transfer of the Technicolor prints they still have

You_Too said:

Mielr said:

I've only had a quick glimpse of SW SE so far, and it also looked very good, though a bit softer than SW '77, which I'm guessing is due to the LD source(?)

First of all thanks for your nice review! Anyway, the source for the SE is the TB version. It's a digital broadcast which is not perfect and does have some compression artefacts too. We did our best to make it look as good as possible.

You_Too said:

Mielr said:

I've only had a quick glimpse of SW SE so far, and it also looked very good, though a bit softer than SW '77, which I'm guessing is due to the LD source(?)

Anyway, the source for the SE is the TB version.

riddler95 said:

I wonder if they'd go as far as giving the 1997 Special Edition Versions the same treatment as well?

I just finished watching SW '77 and I am very pleased with the results of all your hard work (I listened to the '93 PCM mix). If I didn't know better, I never would have suspected that it was sourced from the GOUT. This really is an improvement over previous versions; you seem to have managed to squeeze every ounce of detail available from the source while minimizing flaws, so that (to my eyes) it nearly looks HD. This will become my default viewing copy of SW until Disney decides to release the OOT on BluRay.

I look forward to your versions of ESB '80 and ROTJ '83 even more now that I've seen what great work you've done on SW.

I've only had a quick glimpse of SW SE so far, and it also looked very good, though a bit softer than SW '77, which I'm guessing is due to the LD source(?) Hopefully, I'll find time to finish watching it tonight.

Anyhow, bravo! Keep up the great work! :-)

TV's Frink said:

Mielr if you send me $10 I won't reveal your location. ;-)

dark_jedi said:

Packages sent to those that donated, Thanks.

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*please let me know when you have them*

I put the link on my SW facebook page in case any of my followers care to sign.

https://www.facebook.com/savestarwarsboycotttheblurays?sk=wall

Is there more than one stage to be named? Maybe both Richard Marquand and Richard Burton can have one named in their honor? ;-)

Marquand did direct one of the most successful films of all time and he was Welsh.
Name a Pinewood-Cardiff stage after him? Sure, what the heck. :-)