Mielr

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Post: #295501
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295501/action/topic#295501
Time: 18-Aug-2007 12:18 AM

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Fang Zei
And yes, the blu-ray and hd-dvd releases of superman the movie are indeed the 2000 cut.

Is that bad? Is there something wrong with the 2000 cut?

Not to me!

I much prefer the 2000 cut over the 1978 cut because it contains additional scenes - like the "gauntlet" scene- which is great. A lot of Superman purists don't like the extra scenes in the 2000 version because they think it slows the movie down. But, I like them- mainly because they were shot at the time the film was being made and they add a little depth to the film, IMO. The 2000 cut also has a remixed soundtrack, which some fans don't like.

Originally posted by: skyjedi2005

The only viable films I see at the moment would be the recent lowry/dts digital 4k scan of the bond movies that is only on dvd, the 2k scan they did of both the indiana jones movies and the 2004 edition of star wars trilogy.

The Wizard of OZ has been given the hi-res treatment too, so it should be out on blu-ray/hd-dvd sometime soon.

Post: #295440
Topic: Mark Hamill interview on BBC2 Radio 2
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295440/action/topic#295440
Time: 17-Aug-2007 1:43 AM

Yeah, I want to hear that too.

Post: #295439
Topic: The Celebration Europe Feedback Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295439/action/topic#295439
Time: 17-Aug-2007 1:42 AM

Originally posted by: Mr T
Went to both C4 and CE and C4 was definitely better. CE was great in that I met Mark Hamill, also my total childhood hero. He was great, talked about the rare photo I got him to sign ( a shot from Terry O Neills 1977 shoot) and lived up to my expectations. I agree with everything said about Anthony Daniels, great as C3PO but a total w**ker in real life.

That's great you got to meet Mark Hamill! Would it be possible for you to put up a scan of the pic when you get a chance? I'd love to see it!

Sorry to hear about Anthony Daniels, though. Very disappointing.

(what's his problem, anyway?)

Post: #295369
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295369/action/topic#295369
Time: 16-Aug-2007 12:19 AM

Originally posted by: Tiptup

Laserdisc was not capable of this and that's why non-remastered DVDs have black bars encoded into the actual movie images.

Actually - anamorphic laserdiscs did exist. Only a few titles were produced and I think they were only sold in Japan, but they were made .

Post: #295305
Topic: Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295305/action/topic#295305
Time: 15-Aug-2007 2:20 AM

Those sleeves are nice. Similar to the Japanese release, I think. LINK Beautiful box and sleeve art!

The US version was not nearly as elaborate, unfortunately. It came in a black faux-leather-grain box with a slide-out drawer containing the discs (silver Vader image on front of box). The discs are in plain black-paper sleeves with plastic lining. The fold-out insert has the Struzan artwork for the 3 films on the front, some photos and text inside, and the chapter listings on the back.

http://i17.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/b5/31/a5_1.JPG

Post: #295297
Topic: .:. MoveAlong's - The Story of TESB/The Adventures of Luke Skywalker .:. Complete!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295297/action/topic#295297
Time: 15-Aug-2007 12:57 AM

Originally posted by: andy_k_250

I went to go see ROTJ in the theatre. I was 3 at the time, and very worried about Artoo's head sticking out while they were flying through space.

That's funny- were you afraid he was going to fall out?

It's amazing how differently children and adults interpret images. The scene with Artoo in the rain looking into Yoda's house was of course meant to be amusing (which I'm sure is exactly how it came across to most adults) but to my 9-year-old brain it was scary.

Post: #295212
Topic: Star Wars film versions and best DVD sources
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295212/action/topic#295212
Time: 14-Aug-2007 2:47 AM

The SE's were released in the US on laserdisc as well (in a boxed set only). I got set new from Columbia House several years ago. The discs are CLV/CAV hybrids and it includes a LD-sized gate-fold insert. There are some bonus features starting with chapter 41:

41. Theatrical Trailer (side 3- end of ANH)

50. Theatrical Trailer (side 6- end of ESB)

53. Theatrical Trailer (side 9- end of ROTJ)
54. Featurette
55. Fleshing out the Characters
56. The Limits of 1977 Technology
57. Visual Enhancements
58. The Sound
59. The Empire Strikes Back
60. Return of the Jedi
61. A New Musical Finale
62. As It Was Meant to Be

Post: #295208
Topic: .:. MoveAlong's - The Story of TESB/The Adventures of Luke Skywalker .:. Complete!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295208/action/topic#295208
Time: 14-Aug-2007 1:45 AM

I just got around to watching the ESB trailers, and the '1980 Trailer 1' reminds me a lot of a TV spot that ran when the film came out, and I haven't seen it since. I vividly remember being VERY disturbed seeing the shot of Artoo peeking into Yoda's house while being rained on. Now I think it's cute, but back then I got the same feeling you get when you realize you've left your favorite toy outside in the rain.

Anyhow, I was just wondering if this trailer is that TV spot or a theatrical trailer. Also, I'm curious about the source- it looks like it was shot with 8mm film off a TV or movie screen.

Post: #295206
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295206/action/topic#295206
Time: 14-Aug-2007 1:21 AM

Originally posted by: starwars1977

Originally posted by: Mielr
I guess the next big SW-related book down the pipeline is that 'vault' one.

Pray Tell more....?

LINK
Originally posted by: zombie84
The Star Wars Vault book comes out in the fall and is a sort of sampling of the Lucasfilm archives Star Wars material as far as I understand. It looks sort of interesting but pricey, but I'll bite because I'm a sucker for this stuff.

I usually get sucked in too- I loved the "making of SW" book, but a lot of the star wars books in recent years have sort of left me cold. For instance- The Star Wars Chronicles was too expensive, had too much PT content, and a lot of OT stuff I'd already seen, same goes for the poster book.

Having said that, this 'vault' book looks kind of interesting. If there's no SE/PT stuff in it I may bite as well. The 2 CDs sound unique.

PS- zombie84, you didn't answer my question above re: 16:9 TVs vs 2:35 movies.

Post: #295126
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295126/action/topic#295126
Time: 13-Aug-2007 1:49 AM

Originally posted by: Sluggo

They are going to be the Alan Arnold and Philip Peecher books, but greatly expanded and with more pics. IIRC.
And hopefully no revisionist changes...

Thanks for the info- I don't see them for pre-sale on Amazon, so I guess they're still in the works.

And yes, I hope they follow in the steps of the SW book and keep true to the orignal versions.

I guess the next big SW-related book down the pipeline is that 'vault' one.

Post: #295122
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295122/action/topic#295122
Time: 12-Aug-2007 11:26 PM

Originally posted by: zombie84 So yes, a film that is 2:35 is obviously going to have a slight letterbox since there physically is no way to accomplish it, but the films are still encoded in an anamorphic 16x9 image. The only other option would be to make 2:35 TV sets, but then you would be complaining about the letterboxing on all movies narrower than that aspect ratio, which are far greater in number than the ones in 2:35.

So, you're saying that the thin black bars we see on a 16:9 screen when we watch a 2:35 movie aren't encoded as part of the image. That means the 2:35 image is squeezed slightly into an anamorphic 16:9 image, and then unsqueezed back to 2:35 when played back, right?

Post: #295121
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295121/action/topic#295121
Time: 12-Aug-2007 11:20 PM

Originally posted by: Fang Zei
There is still some, well, I wouldn't call it evidence but maybe signs that the OOT will get remastered eventually. The new making of star wars and the forthcoming making of empire and jedi books are one. Lucas' good friend Spielberg releasing an ultimate dvd of close encounters is another.

I'm starting to feel the same way, Fang Zei.

Are there going to be 'making of' books for ESB and Jedi?

Post: #295102
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295102/action/topic#295102
Time: 12-Aug-2007 4:56 PM

Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
God dammit we even have the back channels of the 2004 DVD mixed properly, we have avisynth, we have insert generic expensive editing program (and failing that, we have software piracy), we have everything that we need to do what we need them to do. Why is it that OCP's Classic Editions are the only DE-SEing projects in existence???!!! I thought with time that is all I would see on these forums! Put down your PT DVDs!!! Stop fan editing them! They're not good! They have no souls!

Good point about OCP's edits. I actually started a thread in the SW preservation forum the other day about this very subject. I asked if there existed a "pure" hybrid project of the OT, using only the useable, unaltered portions of the '04 DVDs* (with color correction) and using the '06 DVDs to fill-in for the SE shots, and the soundtrack. LINK I was told that the OCP edits were the only ones available, but his actually contain some changes that did not exist in the OOT, so it's not really what I meant by "pure" (ie- no little creative touches based on the editor's personal tastes/preferences).

Only one member besides you said that he's working on his own hybrid version, that was it, and my thread got relegated to pg 2. I share your surprise that there aren't more fan edits like this in the works. I originally had thought that's what the X0 project was going to be- but they're not using any material from the '04 DVDs nor are they using the GOUT DVDs, and the project seems stalled anyhow (for the time being). I wish I had a newer computer so that I could give it a shot- but alas I do not.

Why so many are spending time on PT edits when they could be working on the OOT is a mystery to me. THE highest-quality option we have right now is a '04/'06 hybrid.....and nobody's done it.

(*by "unaltered", I mean those scenes which aren't obviously changed. I understand that nearly every scene in the OT had some sort of tweak for the SE, but some are so minor that they aren't noticeable unless viewed directly in comparison to the original versions.)

Post: #295059
Topic: Lucas wearing "Han shot first" shirt during Indy IV production
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/295059/action/topic#295059
Time: 11-Aug-2007 8:52 PM

Originally posted by: JediRandy

And where's Gomer? You guys boot the poor kid?

He got frustrated by the concept of people ignoring the PT because (shock!) they don't like it. He prefers the idea of forcing yourself to like something that you hate, like brussel sprouts and cow intestines. Personally, I LOVE eating foods and watching movies that make me want to vomit--- REALLY!!! It's A LOT easier than just avoiding them altogether.

He's moved on to torment people on other websites with his "you're too negative- try to be more positive and your life will be more enjoyable" (or whatever) message.

Post: #294997
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294997/action/topic#294997
Time: 11-Aug-2007 12:04 AM

Originally posted by: CO
I have a respectful question Mielr, what is in SW insider that has any relevancy anymore? I picked up a couple of issues during the PT days to see what was going on with the upcoming movies, but I just don't understand why people keep funding Lucas every year for a movie series that is overwith?

I've considered letting my subscription lapse several times. I don't like the revisionist slant the magazine has taken, and I was really mad the time they bundled the magazine subscription w/Hyperspace and charged like $45 for it. But, I'm always afraid I'm going to miss something, so I've decided to keep it for now. However, they do send some nice items in the Fan Club membership pkg. One year we got a real animation cel used in the Ewoks cartoon series, there was a nice 25th anniversary ROTJ poster, novelty pens, patches, toys, pez dispensers, etc.

I started subscribing to Bantha Tracks in 1983 or '84, but I DID let my subscription lapse during the late 80's (when it was called Lucasfilm Fan Club magazine), but that was because there was almost zero Star Wars content during those years. But I agree that SWI is not the quality that it was 10 yrs and several publishers ago.

Originally posted by: Moth3r

I think his intention is to encourage fan films rather than fan edits - I certainly don't think he's condoning "the Internet as a distribution vehicle" for copyrighted works. However, "I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done" in the preceding sentence does suggest he is tolerant of Star Wars fan edits.

I don't know what to make of it. It's kind of ambiguous. You can definitely read a lot into it.

Post: #294928
Topic: Who got their membership pkg and "letter" from George Lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294928/action/topic#294928
Time: 10-Aug-2007 1:24 AM

Got my yearly (?) membership pkg from SW Insider today (seems to be filled with more and more advertising stuff every year- but the Bantha Tracks patch is cute).

Anyhow, there's also the requisite "letter" from GL (maybe it's up on starwars.com too, I don't know) but I found this paragraph interesting:

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own. Today, with the Internet as a distribution vehicle and a desktop computer more than a match for the expensive editing tools of three decades ago, fan movie-makers have virtually unlimited options. And those of you who are artists or writers have a much easier way to put your work before the public too."

Post: #294877
Topic: I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294877/action/topic#294877
Time: 9-Aug-2007 1:29 AM

Originally posted by: lordjedi

Originally posted by: Mielr
But, it begs the question- why would you want to play the NTSC and HD versions of a movie simultaneously?

For shits and giggles?

lol! I had a feeling...

Post: #294752
Topic: I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294752/action/topic#294752
Time: 7-Aug-2007 3:28 AM

Originally posted by: Fang Zei

If I were to start playing the NTSC transfer and the HD transfer of the same movie at the same time, would there be a delay by the time I got towards the end?

I think there would be a delay if you tried to sync up a HD movie with the PAL version. Like canofhumdingers said, PAL has a speed-up of 4% and NTSC only has a speed-up of 0.1%.

I don't think there would be a perceptible delay with HD vs NTSC (I'm not sure, though, so I defer to the other members of the forum who are experts in this field).

But, it begs the question- why would you want to play the NTSC and HD versions of a movie simultaneously?

Post: #294656
Topic: Info Wanted: Pittrek's "pure" '04 DVD/GOUT hybrid OT project...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294656/action/topic#294656
Time: 5-Aug-2007 4:58 PM

Originally posted by: pittrek
Hi, I am doing exactly that what you're talking about. I'm using both DVD releases to re-create the original versions of all 6 movies. The bad news is that I'm doing it for more than a year and I'm not still 100% satisfied with it.
Originally posted by: PaulisDead2221
Hey me too

Great! I'm glad to hear that someone is doing this. I'd love to do it myself, but I don't have the best computer, software, nor the knowhow to attempt something so ambitious.

What problems are you encountering with the projects?

Post: #294634
Topic: Info Wanted: Pittrek's "pure" '04 DVD/GOUT hybrid OT project...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294634/action/topic#294634
Time: 5-Aug-2007 4:20 AM

Weren't OCP's done before the GOUT DVDs came out?

Post: #294621
Topic: Info Wanted: Pittrek's "pure" '04 DVD/GOUT hybrid OT project...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294621/action/topic#294621
Time: 5-Aug-2007 1:20 AM — Edited 6-Jul-2020 9:54 PM

(EDIT: I’ve re-named this thread since Pittrek has confirmed that he is working on doing what I have described in the 1st post below).

I apologize in advance if this question is too obvious, but I’ve seen some fan-edits in this forum that are hybrids of the '04 SE DVDs and the GOUT DVDs- but they seem to have other creative “touches” that deviate from the OOT.

I’m wondering if anyone so far had done a “pure” hybrid OT preservation project using the '04 DVDs for the shots where the SE alterations aren’t present or are extremely subtle (with color correction, obviously) and using the GOUT for the soundtrack and to replace the “offensive” scenes and shots where the SE changes are less subtle.

Just curious.

EDIT: I also consider “offensive” changes to be when trims were made to make scenes more “PC”, like in the scene where Luke enters the Deathstar control room and shoots the Imperial officer, some frames were trimmed so that you don’t actually see the blast hit his chest.

Post: #294484
Topic: I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294484/action/topic#294484
Time: 4-Aug-2007 1:09 AM

Originally posted by: lordjedi
From that article:

"But rather than demanding better pictures for today's TV sets, consumers have shown more interest in LP (Long Play) modes that reduce the picture quality to provide longer recording times."

So in essence, nobody cared that Betamax looked better (and lasted longer if I'm not mistaken). They wanted the longer recording times (just like I mentioned previously) at the expense of quality. And who could blame them. Most people didn't have huge televisions or hi-def (didn't exist at the time in the home market). VHS looked "good enough" so there was no reason to go Betamax. That and a lot of people would record over and over again. As long as they could see most of the picture, nobody cared if it had any visible distortions. Hell, I remember making copies and not knowing why the screen went dim and bright and I didn't care about that either (years later I found out it was Macrovision protection).

I agree, most people that I knew in the 1970's had a TV set that was 19" or smaller (heck- I don't remember having a color TV in our house 'till the mid-70s).

I'm just saying that I think the difference between Beta and VHS is greatly exaggerated by most people, and I can understand how someone would be willing to give up 10 lines of resolution to not have to split a movie up onto 2 videotapes.

From Wikipedia:
"Betamax offered a slightly higher horizontal resolution (250 lines vs. 240 lines in PAL & NTSC), lower video noise, and less luma-chroma crosstalk than VHS, and was marketed as providing pictures superior to VHS's, however the introduction of B-II speed (2-hour mode) to compete with VHS's 2-hour Standard Play mode, reduced Betamax's horizontal resolution to 240 lines. The extension of VHS to VHS HQ produced 250 lines, so that overall a Betamax/VHS user could expect virtually identical luminance resolution, and almost identical chrominance resolution (53 vs 50 lines), wherein the actual picture performance depended on other factors, including the condition and quality of the videotape, and the specific video recorder machine model."

If I understand that correctly, at its highest quality (1-hour mode) Betamax only offered 10 more lines of horizontal resolution than VHS, with slightly less video noise and luma-chroma crosstalk. In the 2-hour mode (which is what you would need to tape a movie) Beta and VHS were about equal.

Post: #294400
Topic: I say forget the OOT on DVD, lets target HD-DVD/Blue Ray Now
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294400/action/topic#294400
Time: 3-Aug-2007 2:25 AM

Originally posted by: lordjedi Betamax videos had far better quality than VHS tapes.

LINK

Post: #294383
Topic: Star Wars Saga on DVD Petition
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294383/action/topic#294383
Time: 2-Aug-2007 9:37 PM

Nice.

So, you come to a site DEDICATED to the ORIGINAL versions of the trilogy, and you're pissed at US for not supporting your petition for ANOTHER release of the crap Prequels and the crap Special Editions?

Go hang out on TFN with the other fanboys. Jeez!

Post: #294301
Topic: .:. MoveAlong's - The Story of TESB/The Adventures of Luke Skywalker .:. Complete!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/294301/action/topic#294301
Time: 2-Aug-2007 2:03 AM

MoveAlong, you've done such a fantastic job - you've really created something wonderful!

These projects must have been so tedious- I can't even imagine the amount of time and work that went into them. These are the first fan-edits I've ever had, and I'm going to share them with my Nephew, who also grew up listening to the records. I'm so impressed with the quality- I've seen some commercially-produced DVDs that didn't look as nice.

There are so many little bits that I appreciated, for instance-
I listened to the ESB LP so many times - I got used to the part where Leia says "we have to go back...WE HAVE TO GO BACK!" instead of the line "we have to go back...I know where Luke is" that is on the home-video versions.

It was also nice to hear Luke's alternate reading of the line "hang on back there" from the mono version of the sdtk.

I loved the way you integrated the GOUT footage where needed (I didn't see a difference in PQ, either).

Anyhow, great work. Can't wait for ROTJ.