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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- #310426
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- #310405
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- #310403
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: Molly
Ouch.
I guess with my 2-year-old computer and 3 megabit DSL I'm lucky then :/
Yes, I'm planning on buying a new computer soon- as soon as I can get to the Apple store. It's a testament to the quality of Apple computers that my iMac has lasted this long.
Yup, they're from the Definitive Collection & Faces THX LD masters.
Originally posted by: strangelove
I'm afraid you really will have to wade through all 89 pages for the answer to this one. Or you could head over to the X0 website and read their GOUT article.
The short answer is that the GOUT is an inferior source because it's been compressed for DVD.
Ouch.
I guess with my 2-year-old computer and 3 megabit DSL I'm lucky then :/
Originally posted by: Molly
Anyway - the DVD... I think it's sourced from the same master as the DE/THX discs? but then filtered a bit and compressed a bit more, and those filters didn't exactly help the quality...
Anyway - the DVD... I think it's sourced from the same master as the DE/THX discs? but then filtered a bit and compressed a bit more, and those filters didn't exactly help the quality...
Yup, they're from the Definitive Collection & Faces THX LD masters.
Originally posted by: strangelove
I'm afraid you really will have to wade through all 89 pages for the answer to this one. Or you could head over to the X0 website and read their GOUT article.
The short answer is that the GOUT is an inferior source because it's been compressed for DVD.
"The Verdict Is In" article? That's the only one I see on the X0 site regarding the GOUT DVDs, and it really doesn't go into why the LDs are better than the DVDs, or compression issues with the GOUT DVDs.
I thought I remembered Zion saying something once in this thread (around the time the GOUT DVDs came out) about the resolution of the DVDs and the X0 captures being about equal (?)
Oh and.....

(sorry, I couldn't resist)
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- #310389
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
<3 X0 lolcats!
I expect it will be a long time before we see the OOT in HD, if indeed ever (the closest we'll get will be a fan recreation such as PaulisDead2221's Vintage Edit). And anyone who's examined the GOUT in detail, or tried to improve it, will know that some of the flaws of that DVD are irrepairable.
That is why we need a preservation that combines the best available laserdisc sources. Maybe I'll start Moth3r V2.0 this year.
How is it that the GOUT is a worse source than the LDs? Isn't the GOUT a better representation of the masters? <3 X0 lolcats!
I expect it will be a long time before we see the OOT in HD, if indeed ever (the closest we'll get will be a fan recreation such as PaulisDead2221's Vintage Edit). And anyone who's examined the GOUT in detail, or tried to improve it, will know that some of the flaws of that DVD are irrepairable.
That is why we need a preservation that combines the best available laserdisc sources. Maybe I'll start Moth3r V2.0 this year.
Sorry if this has already been explained in-depth (as I'm sure it has been- ad nauseum). I have a 9-year old computer with a dial-up connection, so the X0 project will be finished before I can wade through all 89 pages of this thread.
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- #310309
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/310309/action/topic#310309
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- #310273
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: CO
I DVR'd it, and it did give me goosebumps. The trailer does have a really funny moment with Ford, but I won't spoil it for those who havent seen it.
I DVR'd it, and it did give me goosebumps. The trailer does have a really funny moment with Ford, but I won't spoil it for those who havent seen it.
They had a segment on E.T. as well, but they didn't show the entire trailer, just snippets of it. Are you talking about the bit in the truck?
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- #310251
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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As far as Harrison Ford goes, he might agree to do voice-overs if they offered him enough $$$. I mean, he did a Mercedes commercial in Japan for a free car.
Speaking of Harrison Ford/Indiana Jones- did anyone see Good Morning America this morning? I missed it.
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- #310170
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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Originally posted by: Doctor M
Is this it? **CLICK** (sounds like kazoo music, though)
Recognize the credits at the very beginning?
Originally posted by: reave
I'll look through my tapes too. Every time I saw or heard that theme I would run to the tv and pray that they were playing Star Wars again.
One year, HBO actually spoofed themselves just for April Fool's day. The music was the same, but you saw a cheap video camera POV shot shake it's way over bits of the original model, followed by the logo dropping from above on very visible wires!
That sounds funny as hell. I'd love to see that.
That sounds funny as hell. I'd love to see that.
Is this it? **CLICK** (sounds like kazoo music, though)
Recognize the credits at the very beginning?
Originally posted by: reave
I'll look through my tapes too. Every time I saw or heard that theme I would run to the tv and pray that they were playing Star Wars again.
Here you go:
**LINK**
I can't believe the stuff on YouTube. Truly amazing.
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- #310155
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
I've come to realize that George doesn't really get what makes Star Wars great.
That sums it up perfectly.I've come to realize that George doesn't really get what makes Star Wars great.
And for the record, I have nothing against the Clone Wars. Am I pissed that the original films they stem from haven't been restored and released properly? Hell yes. Would I be more interested in seeing a Clone Wars movie if I wasn't so bitter over the treatment of the OOT? Perhaps, but probably not.
It's the OOT that I've always cared for most- even before the whole OOT vs SE disaster. I really never got into the EU, I've only read a couple of EU books, so the ancillary stuff has never really been of much interest to me.
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- #310045
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
You mean he was never supposed to still be alive in the ST?! Wow, I guess this theory I've had for a while about that 100 year gap in the legacy era might turn out to be true....
You mean he was never supposed to still be alive in the ST?! Wow, I guess this theory I've had for a while about that 100 year gap in the legacy era might turn out to be true....
What's "ST"?
I'm sure the details (if any) of eps. 7, 8 & 9 were fuzzy back then - especially knowing now that Lucas was pretty much making it all up as he went along....
I had the interview on audiotape for many years (taped from a TV show, which is what I used to do before I got a VCR). I don't know if I still have it, though. If I can find it, I'll post the exact quote.
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- #310007
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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Originally posted by: Molly
Found the cut. For the amount of time that's cut it oughtn't be too noticeable.
I wonder if anyone has the knowhow to recreate that HBO bumper in 480p...
Found the cut. For the amount of time that's cut it oughtn't be too noticeable.
I wonder if anyone has the knowhow to recreate that HBO bumper in 480p...
Speaking of 480p- will this Emmet Otter DVD be progressive when finished, or can't you do that because it was originally shot on videotape? (or at least it looks that way to me).
Excuse my ignorance- I'm just learning about this stuff.
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- #310002
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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Originally posted by: FanFiltration
Did not enjoy the "Clone Wars" show at all. On the other hand, 3 movies set after the events of "Return of the Jedi" in a 100%CGI format to complete the original plan of 9 episodes {With the voices of the surviving original stars from Episodes IV - VI } would be total kick ass! That I would pay for.
Did not enjoy the "Clone Wars" show at all. On the other hand, 3 movies set after the events of "Return of the Jedi" in a 100%CGI format to complete the original plan of 9 episodes {With the voices of the surviving original stars from Episodes IV - VI } would be total kick ass! That I would pay for.
Yes, I'd like that too. I still remember an interview that Mark Hamill gave when ROTJ was released, that he'd signed on to do episodes 7, 8 & 9 with Luke perhaps being on "another plane of existance". I still like the idea of that, preferably live-action, but CGI would be OK too, if he voiced the character.
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- Official: 'THE CLONE WARS' movie in Theaters 8/15/08
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- #309880
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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Here's the featurette I was talking about:
HBO "making of" featurette
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- #309868
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309868/action/topic#309868
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Originally posted by: reave
That HBO promo takes me back in time more than anything else can! What I wouldn't do for a nice HD copy of that!
Yeah, I associate that HBO intro and it's accompanying music with the HBO airings of Star Wars that I watched so many times in the early '80s (sort of like we so closely associate the extended 20th Century Fox theme with the film).That HBO promo takes me back in time more than anything else can! What I wouldn't do for a nice HD copy of that!
Do you also remember the extended version of that intro with the miniature town? (I think they saved it mostly for the feature presentations at night). I wish I had a recording of that, but I don't think I do. HBO used to run a featurette all the time about the creation of the miniature set for that intro.
Too bad HBO doesn't use it anymore.
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- #309864
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- Misheard line in ESB
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- #309860
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- Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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Originally posted by: Molly
I haven't yet found the transition, but as soon as I find it...
I also set aside the short HBO in Space
Don't you just LOVE the HBO in space! LOL!I haven't yet found the transition, but as soon as I find it...
I also set aside the short HBO in Space
The transition is after the scene when the Riverbottom boys go past the treehouse on their snowmobiles and just after Emmet and Wendall stick their heads out of the window and Wendall says "what was that all about?"
I hope the materials I sent you are OK. I noticed as I was making the DVD-R dubs that the older (HBO) tape has some "wavyness" at the top of the screen in most shots. Since you need only a second or two of footage from that version, though, it should be alright.
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- #309827
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- Misheard line in ESB
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Originally posted by: ratpack1961
After reading through the thread about the "uncut" Empire 70mm I thought of an instance where I remember something from the theatrical run yet have never seen it in any other version. Mind you I was pretty young at the time but I'm pretty sure it was there.
When Luke is upside down in the Wampa cave, and fails to reach for the lightsaber, I remember then hearing Obi Wan's voice instructing Luke to "use the Force". After hearing this, Luke then reaches out and tries to grab the saber using the force.
Anyone else hear of this bit of dialog in any of the released versions?
After reading through the thread about the "uncut" Empire 70mm I thought of an instance where I remember something from the theatrical run yet have never seen it in any other version. Mind you I was pretty young at the time but I'm pretty sure it was there.
When Luke is upside down in the Wampa cave, and fails to reach for the lightsaber, I remember then hearing Obi Wan's voice instructing Luke to "use the Force". After hearing this, Luke then reaches out and tries to grab the saber using the force.
Anyone else hear of this bit of dialog in any of the released versions?
I also saw the ESB re-release in 1982 (which was the only time I saw it theatrically aside from the SE) and I don't remember that line being in there, FWIW.
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- #309825
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- The Muppet Movie Extended Edition (Released)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309825/action/topic#309825
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I hadn't watched the tape in a long time, but I noticed that the film doesn't seem to suffer too badly from being full-screen. I'm wondering if it was shot in Super35? I haven't seen the widescreen DVD, so I don't have anything to compare it to (although I did see it theatrically in 1979).
I also noticed that when I popped the DVD-R into my computer to have a look at it, I noticed that at the very top of the screen on the left, there's some sort of lettering (from a control screen, I assume) that was cut off by TV overscan. You can just see the very bottom portion of the letters, they're static and they're there throughout the entire film. I thought it was odd, as I've transferred a bunch of VHS tapes onto DVD, and this is the first time I've noticed anything like that.
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- #309659
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- Jim Ward steps down
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309659/action/topic#309659
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
Why do you say so? Is it only because Ward is now leaving? Close Encounters and Blade Runner got their OV's released on bd. I would hope that forces Lucas to step up to the plate.
Originally posted by: Mike O
Obviously they're not going to release the OOT on BR
Obviously they're not going to release the OOT on BR
Why do you say so? Is it only because Ward is now leaving? Close Encounters and Blade Runner got their OV's released on bd. I would hope that forces Lucas to step up to the plate.
I would hope so too, except that with Lucas you just never know. He's one of the few directors/producers who doesn't seem to mind saying "eff you" to his films' most loyal fans, (which would seem counterproductive to most reasonable people) so who knows what the hell motivates him and how his mind works.
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- #309604
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- Jim Ward steps down
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309604/action/topic#309604
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At least the fan-editors will have better material to work with then. Maybe they can do a blu-ray SE/GOUT hybrid.
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- Jim Ward steps down
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309571/action/topic#309571
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Originally posted by: Fang Zei
I'll probably send in a video to those guys making the "people vs. george lucas" documentary, after I get my thoughts on the matter properly organized.
I'll probably send in a video to those guys making the "people vs. george lucas" documentary, after I get my thoughts on the matter properly organized.
I'm going to do the same thing, but like you, I need to get my thoughts organized.
There was a time when it was all on on the surface and would have just come spilling out of me, but I feel a bit burned out about the whole thing now and I've lost focus. Maybe I should read some of my old posts.
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- #309569
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- Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309569/action/topic#309569
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Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
Yes Ken Ralston is the guy you are talking about. He mentions that there were last minute changes to the frigate scene at the end of TESB. However, I am unable to confirm as to whether any preview audiences saw the film before these changes were made. Harrison Ford remembers sitting in one preview screening to judge the impact of the 'I know' line, so I guess it's possible. Though this version would undoubtedly only be seen by preview audiences and not the general public.
Yes Ken Ralston is the guy you are talking about. He mentions that there were last minute changes to the frigate scene at the end of TESB. However, I am unable to confirm as to whether any preview audiences saw the film before these changes were made. Harrison Ford remembers sitting in one preview screening to judge the impact of the 'I know' line, so I guess it's possible. Though this version would undoubtedly only be seen by preview audiences and not the general public.
On the Definitive Collection commentary, Ken Ralston (I think it is) says that there was a finished print shown at the ESB wrap party. He went on vacation, thinking that his work was done, and got a phone call telling him that George wanted to add some FX shots to the finale. Ralston thought it was a joke, as the film was to be released in 3 weeks and they had already viewed a finished print of the film. But, he did have to go back and create some additional shots to extend the ending.
So, it seems impossible that anyone outside those directly involved with the film would have seen the first edit of the finale.
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- #309560
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- Paying it Foward FE/Preservation giveaway (updated 3/19/08)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/309560/action/topic#309560
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