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#319748
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319748/action/topic#319748
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No, mine don't look greenish (last time I checked, anyway).

How do you store them?

I put up six photos I took of them a while back:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/GOUT-film-grain/topic/8810/page/2/

The color isn't accurate though, because they were placed in front of a Reveal lightbulb and then photographed with a 35mm camera. I plan on getting a film scanner in the near future, and I'll put up some better scans then.
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#319743
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319743/action/topic#319743
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I have many of those 70mm cels, and I think I checked the date code on them once and if I remember correctly, the film dates from 1995 which is the year the cels were first sold (the SW ones were, anyhow. ESB and ROTJ were available later). I'll have to double-check those date-codes, though- it's been a while.

The color on them is good- the ROTJ ones maybe look a tad pinkish in the flesh tones (people who saw the triple-bill in 1985 have also said that the ROTJ print used then looked a bit pinkish) but they still look great compared to the pieces of film I have from a 1977 70mm SW print which is severely faded.
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#319735
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Universal Studios (literally) on fire!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319735/action/topic#319735
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Apparently, Vivendi owns the Motown back catalog, among others.

UPDATE (good news this time):

"MASTERS NOT DESTROYED BY UNIVERSAL FIRE: Reports that this weekend’s fire on the Universal Studios back lot destroyed a video vault which housed thousands of original Decca, MCA and ABC recording masters, including a wide range of music from Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters to Judy Garland and the Carpenters, are unfounded. A UMG spokesperson insists: "Thankfully, there was little lost from UMG's vault. A majority of what was formerly stored there was moved earlier this year to our other facilities. Of the small amount that was still there and waiting to be moved, it had already been digitized so the music will still be around for many years to come. And in addition to being digitized, physical back-up copies."

Apparently, the writer of that other article jumped the gun.
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#319653
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Universal Studios (literally) on fire!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319653/action/topic#319653
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Bad news:

"It looks like more was damaged or destroyed in today’s Universal Studios fire than anyone previously thought. I've learned that Universal Music, which is a completely separate company and owned by Vivendi (which owns 20% of NBC Universal), rents space in the huge video vault housed on the studio lot. But one source tells me that, as a consequence, inside the video vault that was billowing thick black smoke were 1000's of original Decca, MCA, ABC recording masters from the last century including a wide range of music from Bing Crosby and the Andrew Sisters to Judy Garland and The Carpenters. "This is a tremendous loss in music history. A very sad day indeed. It's too bad they saved the videos that they have backups on instead of the master recordings in which they do not, although they may not have had a choice since the fire had already engulfed much of the music side of the vault," a source just told me. Universal Studios can't confirm what has been damaged or destroyed music-wise at this point because it doesn't yet know what exactly was housed in the storage rented to Universal Music."

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/update-universal-fire-burns-music-history/
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#319636
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Indiana Jones IV
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319636/action/topic#319636
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lordjedi said:


canofhumdingers said:

The gophers.... Oh my gosh, what the heck?!? Once again, totally pointless & out of place in the context of the movie itself, & definately in the context of the series.


Simple comic relief. The first gopher hole we see is in place of the Paramount mountain. Just like in Raiders when we see that mountain in place of the Paramount mountain. I'm pretty sure they did the same thing in ToD and Last Crusade. Do gophers usually live in the desert? I'm not sure, but it didn't bother me that much.


They were prairie dogs! ;-)

ChainsawAsh said:

The 'Meh':
- The warehouse sequence, especially seeing the Ark again. Not really necessary, and it kinda felt contrived.


That bit with the ark was actually one of my favorites in the movie. From the moment they walked into the warehouse, I was hoping they'd show it. I was a little disappointed that Indy didn't SEE it and do a double-take or something. :-P


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#319634
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319634/action/topic#319634
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Jay said:

Restoration usually implies that great care is taken during the process to ensure that the final product is of high quality.


That, and (quoting Robert Harris):

"When one takes on a restoration project, the single overriding object is to do no harm to the ORIGINAL ELEMENTS."

Full context here:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sd-dvd-film-documentary/150738-paramount-re-do-godfather-dvds-8.html
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#319615
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Universal Studios (literally) on fire!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319615/action/topic#319615
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More info:

"The studio's film vault, which is lined in concrete and lead and contains irreplaceable film negatives, was not affected."
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117986693.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

"Fortunately, nothing irreplaceable was lost," said Ron Meyer, CEO of Universal Studios. "The video library was affected and damaged, but our main vault of our motion picture negatives was not."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/06/01/studio.fire/index.html



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#319540
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319540/action/topic#319540
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SilverWook said:

Have there ever been any good detailed articles on the actual restoration process?

Everything I recall seeing or reading 11 years ago was focused more on the special edition changes.


There was also quite a bit of detailed info about the restoration in the ILM "digital realm" book that came out a while back. I remember skimming through it at a bookstore a few yrs ago, and that was the first place I think I ever read about the infamous CRI dupe stock. One of the members of the Home Theater Forum read the book and paraphrased some of the info about the restoration (I'm sure he won't mind if I quote him here):

"I read about the restoration of "Star Wars" in the book "Industrial Light and Magic: Into the Digital Realm". I don't have the text in front of me so I have to rely on memory.

Three-fourths of "Star Wars" negative went threw a chemical bath to clean it, then wet gate printed to get rid of scratches and the remaining dirt.

One-fourth of the movies negative was to damaged to do that too, so the footage was replaced in one of three ways. One involved replacing the footage from an interpositive made of "Star Wars" in 1985 for the video release. Another was used if the damaged footage was an effects shot. ILM dug out the original plates of those shots and sent them to Pacific Title, who recombined the plates with an optical printer (I guess ILM couldn't do this themselves because they had gotten rid of all of there optical printers.) The third involved ILM scanning the footage in and correcting it in the digital realm.

So to answer your question, lets say approxatly 5/6 of "Star Wars" was restored photochemcially and 1/6 digitally (and this only done if the footage couldn't be photochemically restored for some reason). Of course, this dosen't take into account all of the new CGI that Lucas added.

Incidently, the audio restoration involved Ben Burtt digging out all the original audio tapes of "Star Wars" and remixing them digitally at Skywalker Sound. (I remembering hearing that in a video promotional feature on the Special Editions at the time)."

Knightmessenger said:

ANH in '04, did they go back to a print with just Mulholland in it and make a new Jabba or just paste it over the '97 one? Some of the CU frames of Han Solo that were cut out in the Greedo scene to make way for the overhead shot were reinserted back in for the dvd. The words "Yes" and "I" were put back to "bet you have."
(The '97 Greedo scene can be found on the deleted scenes video of the Episode I dvd if you want to check)

So don't tell me Lucas can't restore footage that was removed in '97, he already did. I just wish there was an easier way to show or explain this.


I agree with that, Knightmessenger, and feel the same way you do.
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#319446
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Help Wanted: SLIPSTREAM image request - AND WIDESCREEN preservation request (Sky Movies subscribers see posts 4 onwards)...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319446/action/topic#319446
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Thanks Moth3r and everyone else for your help. So, it looks like the only widescreen source for this film is the Japanese LD, but I bet the 4:3 Sky version is better quality than the DVD which is pretty awful.

Mark Hamill IS terriffic in this film- it's a shame there's no decent DVD release.

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#319332
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319332/action/topic#319332
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I agree with most of the CGI criticisms that have been made. That gungan/robot battle scene in TPM was like watching a cartoon. It was at that point that I said to myself- there's no getting around it, this film is a disaster.

I also am aware of the "weight" issue with CGI. The CGI characters don't move with the same gravity that real people/animals do. The CGI stormtroopers in ANH:SE and the action scenes in the Spiderman movies spring to mind. They just don't look/feel/move like organic beings. It was really obvious when Spidey was CGI and when he wasn't.
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#319181
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/319181/action/topic#319181
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gavin77 said:

Hayden is a little weak at times, but to me Mark Hamill is way, way worse of an actor.

Not to me. Hamill gave a fine, natural performance in SW- I don't think you can really say that about Hayden in either of his PT films. Mark's acting got a little self-conscious as the trilogy progressed, but he still gave believable, moving performances in ESB and ROTJ. The thing about Mark's performances in those 3 films that I always appreciated was that he bought what he was doing. I never doubted for a minute that he WAS Luke Skywalker, and he believed he was. I never got that sense of commitment from Hayden.

Sorry, I know we're not supposed to talk about the PT anymore in here. :-P
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#318890
Topic
18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318890/action/topic#318890
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skyjedi2005 said:

cld-d703 i read is exactly the same as the elite quality wise except it does not have an ac3-rf out unless yours is moded.


It is a combi player right?



cld-d704 had rf-out.

mine is very old and i only paid 60 dollars for it. it is a pioneer cld-v2800 industrial unit it does not have any comb filters does have digital sound but no rf-output, you have to flip discs manually and it does not have still mode on clv discs.

I don't have an HD tv or an expensive surround setup, just a standard def tv with stereo audio output. so i'm probably not equipped to be the best reviewer of things.

That being said the GOUT looks like shit even on a 4:3 tv set that is properly set up.

We are and were willing to forgive the limitations of the laserdisc format because that was pretty much built in an a given that the dc would look like that. There is absolutely no excuse for such on dvd however. releasing something only as a shoddy bonus disc and saying "theatrical versions" does not make them so.

The anamorphic prints in 35mm, on the big screen were better looking than these dvds.

I only ever saw the original Return of the Jedi in the Theaters and that was the 1985 Re-Release even then i can tell you how good it looked instead of the gout dvd version.


Yes, the 703 is a combi-player and is identical to the 704 except for the lack of a ac3-out. I didn't care about that though, since I specifically bought it to make transfers of the Faces discs and as you know they're 2-channel.

Where did you see ROTJ in '85? I saw it 3 or 4 times in '83 and then of course again in '97 (which I'd like to forget altogether).
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#318782
Topic
18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318782/action/topic#318782
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Knightmessenger said:


I don't think the 2004 version not being on laserdisc is any loss. That has gotta be the worst version of the films despite the fact that it's the only anamorphic transfer.
The version that looks interesting to me now is the Special Edition. It had a film restoration that actually featured a competant color timer. I think a 97 box set went for only $10 on eBay. Does that sound right, the version that's not on dvd still goes for less than the Definitive which somebody mentioned he recently got for $40?

How do the unaltered dvd's compare to the Special Collection or 97 Special Edition laserdiscs?

I think Laserman (or maybe it was Zion) explained that they were using the Special Collection for the X0 project to fill in info that was compromised due to the DVNR smearing in the DC. I think they said that the SC had less detail than the DC, and the colors were more faded than the DC, but the SC discs were pre-DVNR so they were useful in that regard.

It's hard to find a DC set that doesn't have some laser rot. My set has at least one disc (last I checked) that was showing signs of rot. I really like the Faces discs better for that reason (and the fewer side breaks). I know that there's supposed to be a difference in PQ between the DC and Faces discs because one is CAV and one is CLV, but I can't really say that I've seen a difference on my player.

The '97 SE lasers have a "cooler" (color-wise) look to them, but not nearly as blue as the DVDs (and no Hayden!)
skyjedi2005 said:


IT is funny since i cannot even find an elite pioneer player for a decent price.

A lot of people must still either own or transfer laserdisc to dvd. Watching ebay auctions daily on vhs and laserdisc titles still selling like they are means the formats are far from obsolete as long as the have titles not on Blu Ray or DVD.


What kind of player do you have now? Some of the mid-level players have a sharper picture than some of the Elite models.

Several years ago, I got an Elite cld-95 on eBay for $500, with a bunch of discs included. Unfortunately, it was damaged by UPS so I had to return it. I later was able to get a cld-d703 for about $250. The 703 isn't as pretty as the cld-95, but it's supposed to have a sharper picture (I don't know from personal experience since I never even got to watch anything on the cld-95).