Some think it was a quality-control screwup, others think it was a deliberate attempt to 'modernize' the look of the films- to make them look more like the prequels. :-/
I found this on YouTube last night. I recorded this on audiotape when it aired in 1983, and listened to it over and over again! Just before Return Of The Jedi was released, Siskel and Ebert dedicated an entire show to the Star Wars Trilogy. It's an interesting analysis of why the original Star Wars films were so successful:
.....and their promised ROTJ review which aired just a few days before it opened:
Reel 5 is now up for sale:
The HD broadcasts are 16:9, right? I was watching ANH on Spike TV last night, (the standard def version) and it was shown at 16:9. I noticed that the 2nd-to-last shot had to be panned&scanned (Luke was almost totally cut off on the left until they panned over to him), but the very last shot they showed at 2.35:1 (?)
Yeah, there's a thrift store near me that I used to buy used records from (usually for 25 to 75 cents each), and then they started marking them at like $7 to $10 or more. They still had stacks and stacks of them last time I was there (no wonder), and I haven't been back since.
I did get a good deal many years ago at a flea market- a guy gave me a ROTJ Oral-B poster for free (it was actually a thin flat box that held the posters in the store, and one of the posters was pasted to the front). It was a poster I had never seen before, so I was thrilled. I love the artwork on it and it's still one of my favorite star wars promotional items.
Around the same time (mid-1980's) I found a Kenner Electronic Death Star/Laser Battle game in a bargain bin at Woolworths. The box was a bit beat up, but I think I paid $5 or $6 for it.
I liked Jerry Reed a lot. I'm very sad to hear of this. :-(
I was really sad to hear about it this morning. :-(
negative1 said:you were echoing dumb_kids request to adywan to have it removed, even if you didn't ask explicitly,
i was just wondering why people weren't more proactive in doing there own fixes...
or, are we not allowed to do that here?
Yes we are, just as we are allowed to speak freely. But this thread is about Ady's project, not about people doing their own fixes. I assume that if anyone decides to do more editing/tweaking, they'll start their own thread.
I don't think Ady takes offense to polite suggestions or discussion about his projects, which is all we were doing.
The animation does look smoother- but Sky is right, that's probably only temp music.
Seeing that makes me wish even more that there was an OT cartoon series- they could even give Mark Hamill his old nose back! ;-)
negative1 said:Mielr said:dumb_kid said: Now on topic... Ady I know you may be doing minor tweaks to the movies themselves (Han shoots first , etc) Any chance you can just yank out "Jedi Rocks"? I know you can't put in Lapti Nek with the orginal puppets, but the new song and dance number is awful. Hell I wouldn't mind an abrupt "cut to next scene" over having to being yanked out the movie completly with the horrible CG critters.LOL! I share your sentiment.
My suggestion would be to put Lapti Nek in using the GOUT- of course there would be an obvious drop in quality, (except for some cutaway shots that he could still use from the HD source) but that would still be better than leaving in 'Jedi Rocks' or cutting the scene out altogether. IMHO, anyway. ;-)
how hard is it for you guys to fast forward past the parts you don't like? is it really that hard?
or what about taking the final version, and editting it yourself? if you want the scene removed,
just go into your favorite editor, and take it out?
i think the minor changes are fine, but what you're asking for is major surgery on the movie,
compared to touch-ups.... i mean adywan is free to do what he wants...
but how come no one else wants to try to do it by themselves, instead of constantly asking?
[and being disappointed when the change isn't made]...
Relax, negative1.
I wasn't asking Adywan to do anything. Adywan has already expressed his own dislike for 'Jedi Rocks' and I was just echoing dumb_kid's likewise statements.
Ady has already said that he's removing Hayden Christiansen from the finale, so I don't think there's anything wrong with discussing other undesirable scenes.
Or, are we not allowed to do that here?
dumb_kid said: Now on topic... Ady I know you may be doing minor tweaks to the movies themselves (Han shoots first , etc) Any chance you can just yank out "Jedi Rocks"? I know you can't put in Lapti Nek with the orginal puppets, but the new song and dance number is awful. Hell I wouldn't mind an abrupt "cut to next scene" over having to being yanked out the movie completly with the horrible CG critters.
LOL! I share your sentiment.
My suggestion would be to put Lapti Nek in using the GOUT- of course there would be an obvious drop in quality, (except for some cutaway shots that he could still use from the HD source) but that would still be better than leaving in 'Jedi Rocks' or cutting the scene out altogether. IMHO, anyway. ;-)
It's interesting, I was watching one of the SE trailers last night, and I noticed that the explosion of the death star didn't have that ring around it......it makes me wonder about other unaltered shots and how many of them are really 'destroyed' or whatever LFL is claiming.
Puggo said: I'm curious... although a 70mm copy would be "lossy" compared with a 35mm original, I wonder if a telecine scan of a good enlarged 70mm copy might turn out better anyways. The scanning process itself should be more effective when the source is physically larger. Or am I missing something?
I would think that a 70mm copy would be better than a 35mm copy from the same source because the grain structure would be smaller, but probably a 35mm original would be preferable because there would be one less layer of grain from being duped. (?)
ChainsawAsh said: "Star Wars," however, was shot on 35mm entirely,
But the FX shots were done in VistaVision (35mm film running sideways to create a 70mm format). So technically, the FX shots are in 70mm.
Whose first line in is, "That's right"? 3 POINTS
"In" what? LOL!
In ESB?
Leia
I should get extra points for that one! ;-)
see you auntie said: Does any one have any help or suggestions? It will be very much appreciated by me. I know there's extensive lists of the changes around the internet and dvdactive.com articles on the subject are quite good but I was actually hoping for the OS take on the matter.
Are these the ones you meant? There are a lot of comparison photos:
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-one.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-two.html
http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/star-wars-the-changes-part-three.html
LOL! I'm ashamed to admit that I actually still have a subscription to that rag.
Yeah, ever since they redesigned the site, a lot of stuff has disappeared. I was looking for the Return of the Ewok video on starwars/hyperspace (I had it bookmarked) and it's not there anymore. Fortunately, it's on the starwars.yahoo.com site, but I'm sure there's a lot of stuff that is gone for good.
I don't care for it either- it sounds like John Tesh. :-P
I love the Yub Nub ending!
How many tusks were visible on Jabba's Gamorrean guards? 3 POINTS
Four (in the mouth). Six if you count the two on the head, but I guess those are horns.
C3PX said:negative1 said:yeah, looks like pointless overkill to me..
i'm happy with animaniacs, and tiny toons..
later
-1
You really like to go out of your way to go against the grain don't you?
I suppose you also thought that awesome Blade Runner set was overkill to don't you?
negative1 said (in another thread): i'm not a huge fan of bladerunner...that boxset was full of unnecessary bloat, and pretty much not needed.............. ridley scott pulled a 'george lucas' and added extra unintentional scenes..
;-)
Then there's that cut scene from ESB where Luke and Leia are about to kiss, before 3P0 interrupts them (the whole scene is in the comic book adaptation, and partially in one of the trailers).
I don't see how that scene could have been scripted and filmed if Lucas had planned for them to be siblings. The scene where she kisses Luke later is different, because she does it specifically to piss off Han.
That's really amazing! Nice DeLorean, too. ;-)
C3PX said:Bargain pack? Really? 50 USD a bargain pack? Must be some strange use of the word "bargain" of which I was not previously aware.
I think that's just the MSRP. Amazon has it listed for $36.99
Dammit! Why do I always get here too late!
Who was the first character willing to trust Lando after Lando's betrayal? 3 POINTS C-3P0
Well I'm pretty sure they did. I accept your appualogy but you do haev to admit that you soundew3d a little condensendinfg.
Janskeet, does your computer have spellcheck? LOL!
Yes he is. Here's an article I found about the making of those masks, with photos:
http://neatocoolville.blogspot.com/2008/04/rick-baker-goes-bananas-with-star-wars.html