Mielr

Yeah, I heard it was a bitch to keep those floors from getting marked-up. Everybody had to walk around with those little cloth booties on. 

Negative1 said:

well, you're the one who agreed with it,

if you didn't , you should have said so a lot more clearly...................

You obviously didn't understand the context of the quote. Puggo didn't say he cared about whether or not SW won awards either. It related to the fact that Academy Award-winning films are often referred to as benchmarks in their winning categories, by those who are interested in the movie-making process.

Negative1 said:

why don't you explain why exactly should this movie be studied?

i don't see any reason to... it's just a movie, that some people liked in 1977..

I have to explain that to you? Have you never heard of cinema studies? Are you not aware that people go to college to study the art of film, film editing, cinematography, sound design- all of which SW won awards for? Are you not aware that Star Wars inspired an entire generation of filmmakers to make film their profession? Really?

Negative1 said:

are you studying it? are you student of the history of cinema? is anyone here?

Yes, yes and yes. I am a student of the history of cinema and I have been studying the first three Star Wars films since I first saw them in the early 1980's. Many of the people on this site are in the film business and/or studying film in school. Some people believe that film is an actual art form. But not you, I gather.

Negative1, I've tried to be patient and ignore some of your obviously intentionally confrontational statements, but I'm really starting to wonder about your motives. Your actions & words are strangely contradictory. You claim to love SW, even going to the trouble and expense of acquiring original 35mm prints, and then you act hostile towards the other people on this board, people who you should have a lot in common with, and who's support I assume you would want if you are to continue with your 35mm transfer projects -the fruition of which- (I'm sorry to say) is looking shakier by the second.

I'm going to take Tiptup's advice and not respond to (nor read) any more of your odd rantings (*hits "ignore" button* for the first time ever).

What was the third Rebel ship to fly into the second Death Star? 3 POINTS

The Falcon

I don't give a crap about how many awards SW won. I don't need a film to win awards for me to like it. Of all the stuff in Puggo's post that I quoted, why did you decide to pick on that one line? 

I also quoted:

Puggo wrote:

...It also represented the state of the art for special effects at that time.  As such, every cultural, historical, and artistic sensibility that I know of demands that it be preserved in its original form.  Students of the history of cinema should be able to study it, for example.  IF a real preservation was done, as it should be, nobody here would mind if GL or anyone else wanted to make updates and release those too.  However, since GL is actively stopping it from being preserved, it is natural for film lovers to be angry.

With that in mind, as I've said many times before, it isn't that we "hate" the SE.  If anything, some of us sort-of "resent" it, because it has "replaced" the original iconic film.  The improvements would be way cool, if the original were also preserved.  This has nothing to do with what scenes I prefer, and everything to do with preserving historically significant film art.  Until the original is preserved, like virtually every other major motion picture is, the SE will serve as an annoying reminder of what still hasn't been done, may never be done, and the gap that exists in the cinematographic historical record.

Not all of the questions from round 3 were answered yet.....? Are we still allowed to answer them?

If so:

What did Han claim the cargo was on his stolen shuttle when questioned by an Imperial officer? 1 POINT

Parts and technical crew.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said: Star Wars was a fantastic, academy-award winning 1977 movie.  As such, it is a cultural icon for the late-70s.  It also represented the state of the art for special effects at that time.  As such, every cultural, historical, and artistic sensibility that I know of demands that it be preserved in its original form.  Students of the history of cinema should be able to study it, for example.  IF a real preservation was done, as it should be, nobody here would mind if GL or anyone else wanted to make updates and release those too.  However, since GL is actively stopping it from being preserved, it is natural for film lovers to be angry.

With that in mind, as I've said many times before, it isn't that we "hate" the SE.  If anything, some of us sort-of "resent" it, because it has "replaced" the original iconic film.  The improvements would be way cool, if the original were also preserved.  This has nothing to do with what scenes I prefer, and everything to do with preserving historically significant film art.  Until the original is preserved, like virtually every other major motion picture is, the SE will serve as an annoying reminder of what still hasn't been done, may never be done, and the gap that exists in the cinematographic historical record.

Well said, Puggo. That's the way I feel EXACTLY!

GeorgeLucasIsANarcissist said:

C3PX said:

I can't speak for anybody else, but I absolutely freaken love skyjedi's posts. I think he should have his own late night talk show, because he is awesome.

 

I don't post much, but this is spot-on. Roll on skyjedi. Don't ever change.

I agree- I love Sky's posts! :-)

Wasn't that trailer already released?

Didn't the Ewoks come about because Lucas had already established Wookies as intelligent beings, so they wouldn't work as a primative species anymore? That's the story I heard.

I watched it on YouTube.

adywan said:

Its very interesting that the Raw scan looks very close in colour to the 2004 set. lol

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that. Very strange......

I said in another thread that it might be a good idea to have a separate PT/SE/CloneWars forum, but somehow I don't think even that will totally stop people from coming into the other forums to say "stop complaining" or something equally annoying.

I don't get it- there's the Official site, TF.N, and many others. Why do people have to come HERE to provoke and pick fights?

Who was sleeping when Luke first laid eyes on him? 1 Assist Trophy

Jabba

Could someone explain to me how to use these sarlaac/trophy things? I have no idea! LOL! And PaulisDead you didn't have to carry over my sarlaac from the last round, it's my fault I didn't figure out how to use it before. :-)

Moth3r said:

It is true that there is a degree of aliasing present on the NTSC laserdiscs. Laserman once said he thought they were caused by a minor field misalignment in the telecine. The PAL laserdiscs which come from a different transfer are better in this respect, and don't show so much aliasing.

It also seems worse on the SW LD/DVD than it is on the ESB & ROTJ discs, for some reason.

Since this thread isn't about a true preservation project, perhaps this thread should be moved (or locked?)

Mods?

EDIT: Sorry, PSYCHO_DAYV. I see you already suggested this.

Chewy72 said:

I log onto this site in hopes that the OOT is released on DVD in better quality then the 2006 release, or released on BluRay.  

I also come here everyday hoping that there will be some kind of news about the OOT getting released on blu-ray. When there inevitably isn't, I stick around to discuss other OOT-related subjects with like-minded OOT fans.

It feels like this site is starting to stray from it's original spirit, and getting to be more like TFN. There are lots of forums where people can profess their love for the Prequels and SEs, but how many sites are there for OOT purists to bitch and moan without a bunch of people chiming in to inform us that there must be something wrong with us if we don't love the Clone Wars or the PT or the SEs?

It used to just be the occasional troll/threadcrapper like GoMerTonic, but it seems to be happening on a regular basis now. There seems to be an increasing level of intolerance for OOT fans here, which is very disturbing.

Maybe now there should be a separate forum on this site to discuss the Prequels and the Clone Wars, so that the PT/CW fans and the OOT fans don't have to bump into each other so often. 

Just a thought.

LOL! :-P

Yeah, I agree with that, Chewy72.

g-force said: They de-interlaced before mastering the DVD. And they did a terrible job at that, as witnessed by the poor vertical resolution and jaggies compared to the laserdiscs.

-G

 

I noticed just as much aliasing (jaggies) on the LDs as I did on the DVDs. 

However, the fuzzier nature of the LDs (depending on the player) covers a multitude of sins. For that reason the aliasing on the LDs may be less noticeable to some.

Who killed the first Imperial trooper on Endor? 6 POINTS

Chewie was the first one to shoot and kill a trooper. Han slammed that first one against the tree, but I think he got up. :-P

I found this site when I signed the original petition (in '04 ???), but I didn't start posting in the forums until the GOUT was announced in '06.

There were some bugs in some of the questions (one of the questions I couldn't skip, even though it was non applicable. It was also a multi-part question and you had to enter a different value for each part or it wouldn't accept the answers), but I answered the best I could anyway.

I would have liked a question about the forum's new quoting function, which I HATE! LOL!

Sluggo said:

OK, how do I post images again?  I am having a bad brain day today..

Click on the little tree icon and paste the url in. I think [url=*pasteURLhere*] works, too.

DarkFather said:

 

I mean seriously. What the hell would you have them saying? Completely humorless, inane technological Star Trek dialogue?

Acually, I think I would prefer that. I think it would be more palatable if they didn't try to be funny at all, than attempting to be funny and failing. 

I watched it- it was OK. I'll never get used to Yoda doing somersaults. The dialogue between Anakin and Ashoka was pretty awful. [paraphrasing]"Well, if I'm going to get in trouble for something, I want you to be there too!" yuk, yuk, yuk.

ESB/ROTJ puppet Yoda. No contest.

I remember having an argument with someone at HTF about this- I said that I felt that anything that has a human arm in it is automatically going to move more realistically and organically than something animated. 

I also got a response from Leonard Maltin, a couple of years ago.

He said something very similar to what he wrote to Darth Yub Nub.