C3PX said:I have to agree with rcb, he looked better than the DVD Jabba. 1997 Jabba didn't look good by any means, but most certainly better than the DVD Jabba.
Same here.
vote_for_palpatine said:What is your state of SW?
My enthusiasm has waned. I just got a new HDTV (my first), and with trepidation, I viewed segments of the GOUT discs, afraid of what I was going to see. I have to say that the DVDs don't look as bad as I feared they would on the new TV.
I'm resigned to the idea that this is the best version of the OOT I'm ever going to have, until one of the talented people here creates a '04 SE DVD/GOUT hybrid OT. So, I can live with the GOUT until then. ;-)
But whatever excitement that I would have had for the OT being released on Blu-ray has been killed. I'm just getting into Blu-ray now and I'm happy about seeing some of my favorite films being released in this phenomenal new home video format..... except for my three favorite films of all time, of course. :-(
Baronlando said:yeah, they were just unpacking them at best buy. It's just the individual 2006 2-discers but with the 2004 covers and a sticker that says both versions are included. classy!
(in other words it's both discs in this...http://www.markrh.com/dvd/images/StarWarsVI-ReturnOfTheJedi.jpg
instead of...
http://www.collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Return_of_the_Jedi/return_of_the_jedi_original_dvd.jpg
Huh. So, they had a bunch of those butt-ugly covers left over. I like the '06 covers MUCH better.
Baronlando said:Man, we are so far away from blu-ray, I just saw ANOTHER repackaging of the 2006 discs...but in the 2004 covers. There must be a Raiders warehouse full of these things.
Aside from the new boxed set, you mean?
Ripplin said:The real problem with Amazon is that Tuskan Whole Milk is still currently unavailable! :(
http://www.amazon.com/Tuscan-Whole-Milk-Gallon-128/dp/B00032G1S0
If you haven't seen this before, you must check out the reviews! Hilariousness abounds! :D
LOL! Those are funny. But really- what kind of review would you write for milk?! And WHO BUYS MILK FROM AMAZON.COM? :-P
Vaderisnothayden said:C3PX said:To answer rcb's original question, Zombie meant that Return of the Jedi is not anywhere near as good as the first two films, but it is acceptable.
Except that it's perfectly as good as the other two films.
Yeah, I'm more forgiving of ROTJ, too. There really isn't anything about it that I don't like. I understand some of the criticisms- but none of the things people usually criticize are particularly bothersome to me.
satanika said:Mielr has some of those! I think.
Yes, I've got a few of those. I haven't looked at them in a while, though.
C3PX said:Hmm, then back in 1997 would have been the time to kick and scream and protest. If we really did know the shape of things to come from way back then, we sure as hell let it happen without putting up much of a fight.
I wrote a letter to Lucas in 1997 complaining about the removal of the Ewok's 'yub nub' song---little did I know what was to come......
Not many people were on the internet back then, so it would have been tough to organize a petition, etc.
It was planned for the 20th anniversary theatrical re-release in '97. The work had probably already started in '95 since that's the year they stated that the video release was to be the original versions' last.
I remember the "ONE LAST TIME" campaign, and I was fully aware that they were referring to the original versions and that they were to be replaced by the SE's with altered special effects, etc. I bought the VHS tapes when they came out in '95, and after I saw the SE's in 1997 and realized the extent of the changes, I quickly bought the '95 Laserdiscs as well even though I did not yet own an LD player.
I still have the labels from the '95 LDs, which state "LAST CHANCE to Own the Original Version of STAR WARS".
Gaffer Tape said:No, the scene where Padme dies needs to be fixed.
Exactly.
They're showing a different one every day, aren't they?
Knightmessenger said:
I just saw this on youtube. The ending for Return of the Jedi while it was in the process of being redone for the special edition. The music is a temporary track and the shots of the planets are just storyboards. It is edited as it appears in the special edition.
There's more discussion about it here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Different-ROTJ-ending/post/328516/#post328516
Orinoco_Womble said:
Many apologies Mielr and Knightmessenger. I had misread your post (I was very tired on Friday evening) and the way I'd read it, I thought that you were saying that the X0 project was solely using the Def Col for the transfer.
Mielr said:
Knightmessenger and I have been posting in this thread since 2005/2006!!!!!!
WOW! Six, cont em', six exclamation marks! Think I might have touched a nerve there :/
Nope, no nerves touched. The button got stuck. ;-)
Your original post just came off as a tad condescending- but I understand that you were tired (it happens to all of us), so apology accepted.
C3PX said:Baronlando said:They cannot give these away at the stores around me...
Apparently not! I was just browsing through targets weekly ad on their website, and they are selling the PT set for $24.99, 50% off its suggested retail price! How often does that happen for a set released a mere month or so before? Also take note that it is only the "Prequel Trilogy" not the actual "Star Wars Trilogy" (LFL's labeling, not mine) that is being sold at half off. This means something... not sure what... but it must mean something...
When I went to Target the week they were released, I noticed that there were several PT sets on the shelf, but only one OT set. FWIW.
Amazon recently had a sale on the OT set for $29.99 but it's back up to $32.99 now.
skyjedi2005 said:
The Charles Gerhardt Return of the Jedi release by the National Philharmonic also has an instrumental version of the ewok celebration scene.
Without english or ewokese lyrics.
The Star Wars and Empire Releases are also excellent. I have the Charles Gerhardt Trilogy of star wars.
The throne room and end title on star wars is a very nice rendition, better than the skywalker symphony.
The star wars themes on Star Tracks, and Time Warp by Erich Kunzel are nice as well.
I also have the Utah Symphony release that has a very moving rendition of the death of darth vader.
I like the Utah Symphony version of Darth Vader's death, too. In some ways I think it's superior to the LSO version.
It's been a while since I've heard the Skywalker Symphony CD (I returned it to the store soon after I bought it) but I do remember that I was disappointed by it.
Luke's lightsaber prop from SW and ESB just sold at auction for $240,000 and a 3PO helmet sold for $120,000!!!
http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2008/12/12/light-saber.html
How did these things end up at auction?? I thought Lucasfilm had all this stuff in the archives? (aside from a lot of the stuff from SW which ended up stolen).
skyjedi2005 said:Yeah too bad it is based on the hated prequels and not something from the real trilogy which has been released as non anamorphic bonus discs.
Maybe base it on the emperors throne room in return of the jedi,lol.
Or maybe Jabba's palace complete with Han Solo in carbonite on the wall.
Perhaps a display case of lighstsaber props and replicas would be cool as well.
I was going to say that if I wasn't told that it was a Star Wars-themed room, I wouldn't have known! LOL!
The Emperor's throne room from Jedi would be awesome. I've always thought it would be cool to have a room that looked like the interior of the Falcon (the area where the game table is, where luke was training with his lightsaber). I don't know how well that would work for a home-theater, but it would be just cool to have one.
doubleofive said:I think its really funny that no one on this board is actually going to buy them. I understand completely why, its just funny that we're sitting here saying "Someone tell us whats on these!"
Those of us who really wanted them bought them when they were released in '06 (like myself) and those who didn't buy them out of principle (or other reasons) - still aren't going to buy them.
Orinoco_Womble said:
ummm, did either of you read the whole of the X0 topic? I think you both might have missed a post or two, especially the ones that mention the whole 'black magic' process that Laserman came up with (brilliant stuff!).
Knightmessenger and I have been posting in this thread since 2005/2006!!!!!!
I was just responding to Knightmessenger's comments about the LDs vs. the Gout.
Knightmessenger said:But the Gout is about the equivalence of a raw X0 capture from the Definitive Collection. (I know the X0 team claims their capture is better but I figure it's close enough to call it even.) Basically, what the Gout (and the X0 gives) is the quality of the 1993 master without analogue video noise dotcrawl, or other junk present in most laserdisc/vcr playback. It's a lot easier to see the smearing on the Gout than my cowclops (anyone else not like that name?) dvd's because the whole picture on those has more blur, further made worse by digital compression and the double black bars. (which should have been fixed) I don't think Sansweet was lying at all about the 2006 dvd's when he said he had never seen the original movies look better.
The thing that makes a picture look good is lack of interference, generation loss or blockiness and other junk. The Gout has virtually none of this that was not already present on the '93 master.
I agree with you- the GOUT looks far better to me than my Faces and DC laserdiscs on my Pioneer cld-d703.
Don't misunderstand me- I'm not saying the GOUT looks great or even acceptable, but I can't afford an X0 or X9 player and so for me, the GOUT is currently the best available way to watch the OOT (and to be totally honest- I'm still not buying the idea that the LDs played on an X0 look better than the GOUT until I see it with my own eyes).
All the GOUT's flaws are also apparent to me on the Faces/DC discs (including the aliasing) and the LDs as played on my LD player just adds another layer of haze to the mix. As you said, the video master's flaws are sort of blurred on the LDs because of the format's inherent fuzziness- but they're still there- just fuzzier, along with everything else.
devils_syndicate said:Straight from the Lions mouth.
http://www.starwars.com/movies/saga/20080826news.html
Returning to store shelves on November 4th are the six episodes of the Star Wars saga on DVD bundled in convenient trilogy sets. Perfect for gift-giving as the holidays approach, the Prequel Trilogy set includes Episodes I-III, while the Star Wars Trilogy includes Episodes IV-VI.
Fans who already own the prequel trilogy double-disc releases (released from 2001-2005) and the Star Wars trilogy double-disc releases (released in 2006) already have all the content that's available in this set. There's nothing new in this set you don't already have.
I'm more interested in what's NOT on them, than what's on them- ie the Lego Demos.
Who knows, maybe someday I'll actually find a human who's bought these and can tell me, because I sure as hell ain't buying them again to find out! LOL!
I've said many times here that there should have been more made of the Anakin/Padme/Obi-Wan relationship, like a love triangle of sorts, with Obi-Wan having secret feelings for Padme. It would have made Ben's relationship with Luke even more meaningful- and would have actually added something to the OT. It seemed like such a no-brainer at the time- I was sort of expecting it and was disappointed when it didn't happen.
Yet another missed opportunity.
That has to be a joke- it can't be a real product (?!)
skyjedi2005 said:Even if you have the anthology and the rca or sony versions you still don't have all the music, but close to it.
The single-disc Star Wars Trilogy CD recorded by the Utah Symphony is also a must for SW-soundtrack completists. It has the full Jabba the Hutt concert suite, which the anthology and rca/sony releases do not.
John Williams also recorded a version for the Skywalker Symphony CD- but it was not as good, IMO.
