Mielr

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Post: #229326
Topic: If George did release a high quality OOT DVD, what is the worst that would happen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229326/action/topic#229326
Time: 26-Jul-2006 4:05 AM

Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit Shit if KISS can sell the Kiss Kasket for $4700.00 (which isn’t really all that expensive for a Casket) then I’m sure George can sell the REAL OT in a collector’s set for a few hundred bucks.

LOL! I DEFINITELY want to be buried in one of those!!!

You're right- that's not very expensive for a casket.

Post: #229292
Topic: Another Form Of Protest?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229292/action/topic#229292
Time: 26-Jul-2006 2:08 AM

Originally posted by: Mike O
Maybe some good will come of this. I certainly hope so. I should cheer up. Maybe, just maybe, all of this will turn out for the best. Thanks Mielr. Its good that have you on this board. I like you very much. Its great to have been welcomed by you.

You're welcome!

Thanks to you as well. We should all cheer up- it's getting too morose around here lately. I know we're all very disappointed by this whole thing, especially after having been so happy and excited about the initial news of the DVD release, but we've still got a fight ahead of us, and we need to stay optimistic so that we can come up with ideas about how we're going to proceed. Like I mentioned before, I think the press is going to do a lot of our work for us and give us a head start, because any magazine reviewer or movie reviewer worth his/her salt is going to lambaste Lucasfilm for releasing these classic films in such an outdated fashion.

Post: #229283
Topic: Another Form Of Protest?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229283/action/topic#229283
Time: 26-Jul-2006 1:41 AM

Originally posted by: Mike O

Originally posted by: Tiptup
Anything that screws George Lucas even in a tiny way is worth considering.

Yes, but at this point, what can we do? I'll keep fighting on principle, of course, but at the moment, it seems that we have lost the battle. Let's hope we can win the war. I just don't have an inspirational speech ready. Its thousand to one odds.

WE can't do anything more right now. However, I'm confident that there WILL be a significant backlash in the entertainment press about these non-anamorphic DVDs. As a result, GL will have to address the issue at some point in the future. I think he's underestimating the negative response that these DVDs will get.

It will be very interesting to watch all of this unfold. 48 days to go.

Post: #229184
Topic: OUT Audio: Pablo Speaks
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229184/action/topic#229184
Time: 25-Jul-2006 10:12 PM

"[In the English version], specifically, you won't hear the stormtrooper 'close the blast doors!' and you won't hear C-3PO say 'the tractor beam is coupled to the main reactor in seven locations, a power loss at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave.' I got a chance to listen to these, and realized, that's the version I heard on VHS all these years! And yes, you will hear Luke say to Artoo 'you were lucky you don't taste so good,' as opposed to 'you were lucky to get out of there.' So, it's like an old friend coming home."

Yeah well.......you can hear all that on the '93 and '95 LD versions and on the '95 VHS version too. LOL!

Big fat hairy deal.

Post: #229076
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229076/action/topic#229076
Time: 25-Jul-2006 3:49 PM

Originally posted by: Hal 9000
The other day I was thinking it'll at least be good to have the OOT without being "enhanced" or whatever they did to really make the colors on the official DVDs look so wrong.

Now for the OOT we will have horrible video, and "enhanced colors" to match the gawdy SE DVDs.

The color correction was done back in '93, or at least I think that's what Steve Sansweet meant. I'm hoping Lowry hasn't done any 'color correction' work on this set!

Post: #229007
Topic: What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229007/action/topic#229007
Time: 25-Jul-2006 8:29 AM

An easier question would be: What DIDN'T the PT need? There's almost nothing right about the PT, in my opinion, except maybe the casting of Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor. Casting Christopher Lee, Terence Stamp, Pernilla August and Jimmy Smits were good moves as well, but their talents were wasted.

I agree that there should have been a Padme/Anakin/Ben love triangle- with both Ben and Ani falling in love with Padme. I was sort of expecting that to happen in AOTC, but NOOOOOO! That would have actually added some depth to the OT storyline- instead of sucking the life out of it by just spoiling all of it's plot twists. Yet another interesting plot opportunity wasted.

I also agree that Anakin shouldn't have known about Padme's pregnancy...and she shouldn't have died IMMEDIATELY after giving birth....*sigh*

Post: #229003
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229003/action/topic#229003
Time: 25-Jul-2006 8:07 AM

Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Wow, you know, it really makes it feel worth it to be a Hyperspace member to be able to see things like that. I mean, wow, clips from 30 year old movies we already own. That's certainly worth paying money for. But what a crappy trailer. "And learn the shocking truth about Darth Vader. 'I am your father.'" Well, I guess I just learned that shocking truth. No need to buy the movie now... I mean, I know everybody knows it, but do they have to trivialize it that much? I don't see any Citizen Kane trailers saying, "And learn the shocking truth behind Rosebud..." followed by an image of... well, I'm not going to ruin it in case somebody doesn't know.

LOL! I was thinking the exact same thing...oh, they forgot to mention that Leia is Luke's sister! Well, I guess they figured everybody is going to watch 1-3 first anyway, so what the hell?

...and I SO resent them bundling the price of the Hyperspace membership in with the magazine subscription...

Originally posted by: Tiptup
Oh, and did you notice the generic, radio-station DJ they used as the announcer? He tried making everything sound all impressive in his pathetic voice. It was laughable.

Yes, that's the first thing I noticed. His voice had no authority, whatsoever.

Post: #228938
Topic: If George did release a high quality OOT DVD, what is the worst that would happen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228938/action/topic#228938
Time: 25-Jul-2006 2:06 AM

Remember, the Definitive laserdisc collection sold for $225-$250 when it was released. When you consider inflation, $300 wouldn't actually be that bad for all the movies on DVD.

My first VHS copy of Star Wars was $80.00 !!!

Post: #228913
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228913/action/topic#228913
Time: 25-Jul-2006 12:56 AM

Originally posted by: boba feta
Tag Teamed.

Thanks!

Post: #228870
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228870/action/topic#228870
Time: 24-Jul-2006 11:35 PM

May I request that some kind soul upload this OOT trailer to YouTube? I can't seem to watch any of the other versions.

Thank you, in advance.

Post: #228869
Topic: The "original crawl" on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228869/action/topic#228869
Time: 24-Jul-2006 11:28 PM

LOL! Well I'm not surprised. But that may not be the final version, anyhow. Who the hell knows. They may have just re-done the whole thing.

Also, in the original crawl, I think "DEATH STAR" was on one line, while in the revised version, it was split between two lines.

Post: #228856
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228856/action/topic#228856
Time: 24-Jul-2006 10:00 PM

I think we all need to take a deep breath and calm down for a minute. We're now judging these DVDs based on second-hand reports of what other people saw at the Comic Con (viewed with a questionable projection set-up), and on a Quicktime internet trailer?

Maybe we should just wait until the DVDs actually come out, and we can judge them with our own eyes, on our own televisions. That's what I'm going to do. For those of you who are still debating whether or not to buy them, maybe it would be better for you to hear the opinions of those of us here who do buy them, and you can make your decisions based on that instead.

Post: #228772
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228772/action/topic#228772
Time: 24-Jul-2006 5:45 PM

Originally posted by: auraloffalwaffle

As far as the claim that the September Discs will be better than the bootlegs goes, I'm sure the better bootleggers take the time to avoid the sort of picture problems people saw at ComicCon.

I'm wondering though, if there were some problems with the projection set-up they used? DVDs can look like crap if not projected properly.

Post: #228769
Topic: SUPERMAN RETURNS REVIEW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228769/action/topic#228769
Time: 24-Jul-2006 5:38 PM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Yep. But there's Singer gay, and then there's Schumaker gay.

And then, I suppose, there's John Waters gay.

Vincente Minnelli was gay too, FWIW (though not openly).

Post: #228761
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228761/action/topic#228761
Time: 24-Jul-2006 5:12 PM

They can't have it both ways- they can't stress in all the advertising that the OOT is basically the main feature of these releases and still give the movies sub-standard, "bonus feature" treatment. This WILL backfire- big time.

I can hardly wait for the backlash.

Post: #228536
Topic: Idea: The Secret Of NIMH - Laserdisc Preservation
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228536/action/topic#228536
Time: 24-Jul-2006 1:15 AM

Originally posted by: Cactus
Resized image (800x6398, 700KB): http://fapomatic.com/show.php?loc=29&f=02800.jpg

It's amazing, caps 1,2,3,5 and 12 (from the top) definitely look better on the laserdisc.

Post: #228533
Topic: What is the rarest video in your collection?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228533/action/topic#228533
Time: 24-Jul-2006 1:02 AM

Off the top of my head I guess I'd say my Laserdisc of Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" (the Giorgio Moroder restoration from 1984). That version is out of print and the LD is harder to come by than the VHS. I also have a letterboxed DVD of Robert Altman's "Brewster McCloud" (which last I checked, still hasn't been officially released on DVD).

Post: #228531
Topic: If George did release a high quality OOT DVD, what is the worst that would happen?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228531/action/topic#228531
Time: 24-Jul-2006 12:36 AM

Originally posted by: JennyS1138
1. The fans would like the original versions better. Oh, the horror!
4. Milions of people would discover that the OOT didn't need any tinkering and all the changes he made, only made things worse.
Seriously, what terrible act could come of a proper OOT release?

Yeah, #1 and #4 sound about right.

Post: #228528
Topic: Those "Takes You Out Of The Moment" Moments...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228528/action/topic#228528
Time: 24-Jul-2006 12:32 AM

Originally posted by: JediFlyer06

For me, this scene was when Luke truly becomes a Jedi. Rather than join Vader, he chooses apparent death. He's faced his greatest fears in Vader, lost the battle, but won the war because he stayed true to his path. It's awesome...without the SE scream, of course.

Yes, he had a choice to make: give in to temptation, or sacrifice himself. He chose the latter (fortunately for all of us, he survived the fall).

Post: #228500
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228500/action/topic#228500
Time: 23-Jul-2006 10:40 PM

Originally posted by: Windexed
I an 100% absotutilutily convinced that the ONLY point of this release is to effectively eliminate and/or commandeer the bootleg market.

Well, that won't work for obvious reasons. The only way to stamp out the bootlegger's market is to give us decent anamorphic releases. You would think that Lucas would be smart enough to figure that out for himself.

Post: #228498
Topic: Those "Takes You Out Of The Moment" Moments...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228498/action/topic#228498
Time: 23-Jul-2006 10:29 PM

You're very brave, garethxxgod, starting this thread in this, of all forums. Fortunately for you, most of us are mature and polite (unlike some people on another forum). LOL!

Originally posted by: garethxxgod
.....is he just trying to get away from Vader or is he trying to end it all and when he finally gets to the bottom he has a change of heart? heh...anyways.

Both/either. He was trying to get away from Darth Vader. He wasn't necessarily trying to commit suicide -but he had nowhere else to go. He took his chances- he would either die from the fall, or survive, but either way, he was free from Vader.

Post: #228495
Topic: Those "Takes You Out Of The Moment" Moments...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228495/action/topic#228495
Time: 23-Jul-2006 10:14 PM

Originally posted by: bindibadgi
Salacious Crumb is a bit corny, but I'm not sure he takes me out of the moment. How did we ever know his name BTW?

How did we know Wicket's name either? I think the toys came out before the movie did. LOL!

I have to agree with SES about the PTs (for all 3 -the entire movie takes me out of the moment- there's nothing there to salvage)- and the SEs (every altered shot takes me out of the moment), but I will say that even though I don't like the Jabba scene in ANH (it's totally unnecessary and ruins the pacing of the film), I could have lived with it if it were the ONLY change to SW. Aside from the CGI Jabba looking horrible and totally fake, there is another "take you out of the moment" moment in that scene that comes when the newly-added Boba Fett stops and looks at the camera like "Here I am! See me? Hey all you crazed Boba Fett fans- isn't this cool?! I'm in Star Wars!" It really draws attention to itself and it's stupid - but then, so are all the other SE alterations, except the Luke/Biggs scene which I actually love.

Post: #228463
Topic: Another Form Of Protest?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228463/action/topic#228463
Time: 23-Jul-2006 8:13 PM

Originally posted by: Mr Bungle
I think some people will return them to shops anyway after they have seen the video and it being non ano on the second disc which im sure is not advertised on the packaging, not everyone goes on the net and knows what they are getting...

Now, THAT is definitely a possibility. The fact is that the majority of the fans who'll buy these DVDs DON'T come to these forums, and are going to just assume (as well they should) that the DVDs are anamorphic. SURPRISE!!

What would be great is if everybody complained to FOX that the DVDs are "defective". LOL! I would just love FOX to get on Lucasfilm's case- telling them that they had better provide some non-defective anamorphic DVD material........*sigh* dream over.

Post: #228451
Topic: Do you think they'll fix the sound issues?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228451/action/topic#228451
Time: 23-Jul-2006 8:04 PM

I hadn't noticed that problem, because I've only watched the SW SE DVD once, to hear the commentaries. Having read about that problem yesterday, I watched that section of the DVD and did notice that the force theme is missing from that scene (I checked the French mix too, and yup- it's there! LOL!) Strangely, the force theme is also present on the SE laserdisc, so.....? They really screwed up on those DVDs.

Idiots. I somehow doubt that they'll fix the problem, though. They hate admitting they've made a mistake. I don't really care anyhow. The SE DVD is not my preferred viewing choice for Star Wars.

Aren't there other sound problems with the DVDs? Wasn't there something having to do with rear channels being reversed or something?

Post: #228445
Topic: first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/228445/action/topic#228445
Time: 23-Jul-2006 7:52 PM

This is the email I'm sending to Roger Ebert (I'll send a similar one to Leonard Maltin):

Dear Mr. Ebert,

As you're probably aware, for the first time the original versions of the original Star Wars Trilogy will be released on September 12th, packaged along with the Special Edition versions. However, as will all things Star Wars, there is a lot of controversy surrounding them, because of the fact that the original version DVDs will be non-anamorphic, made from 13-year-old laserdisc masters. The release is seen as a feeble attempt on the part of George Lucas, to placate fans who have been clamoring for a DVD release of the original, pre-Special Editon films. When the news about the non-anamorphic release started to leak, Lucasfilm publicist Lynne Hale sent out a press release stating, disturbingly, that “The negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of the Special Editions, and existing prints of the first versions are in poor condition”, hence, the use of letterboxed laserdisc masters for the upcoming release.

I would imagine that not only Star Wars fans would be upset by this statement, but ALL film-lovers and preservationists as well.

I have forwarded to you a letter which I sent to Ms. Hale, protesting this sub-standard September 12th release. I've sent it to you, because I thought you would be the best person to inform consumers about this release, and help put pressure on Lucasfilm/Fox to reconsider the manner in which these much beloved films are being treated (I've also forwarded the letter to new Lucasfilm VP Jim Ward).

I hope you're recovering well from your surgery, and I look forward to seeing your review of these newest Star Wars DVDs.

Best wishes,
M. R.

P.S. Please visit originaltrilogy.com run by Jay Sylvester. Over the last few years, his site has collected over 75,000 signatures to get the original Star Wars Trilogy released on DVD. The forums are just full of disappointed fans these days.

I've written to Mr. Ebert before, and received a response...so who knows. If nothing else is accomplished, we need to make sure that George "THX" Lucas is thoroughly embarassed in the press.