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#230288
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230288/action/topic#230288
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Originally posted by: End Credits
Originally posted by: Mielr
Originally posted by: End Credits

Padmé should not have died immediately after giving birth. I know the EU isn't everyone's cup of tea, but in one of the Zahn novels, Leia has a flashback of her mother hiding her in a chest or something.

Wasn't that bit in one of the OT novelizations?


It's possible. I've read the OT novelizations only once. I seem to remember it from either Dark Force Rising or The Last Command, though.

I found it- it's in the ROTJ novelization by James Kahn. It's in the bridge scene with Luke and Leia:


"Flashes from her infancy assaulted her--distorted visions of running...a beautiful woman...hiding in a trunk."
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#230108
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first viewing of the 2006 OOT dvds
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230108/action/topic#230108
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Originally posted by: THX
On the "issue" of the "interlacing artifacts", it is possible to create this effect simply by not setting up your DVD player correctly for its display. I sincerely doubt that the DVDs will contain constant visible "combing."


Yeah, I get that combing effect when I play homemade DVDs on my computer- but my computer is 6 years old. I'm sure a better de-interlacing chip would be able to handle my DVD-R material and these new OOT DVDs without producing that combing effect.

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#229947
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229947/action/topic#229947
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Why are you always here to cheer me up, huh Mielr? I was just considering leaving the forum for a while. Maybe I'll stay a bit longer. Thanks . There's just a lot of negativity in this thread, and understandably so. I suppose we should wait and see how the whole thing goes. I just don't want to expect the best and then be disappointed. But, hey, it's only been 2 months since the announcement. I suppose that this process could take years. I need to learn to be patient. Thanks again, Mielr .

You're welcome. I was getting pretty down from all the negativity around here lately, too. It's understandable- but we have to try to stay positive. We have to keep writing letters and making phone calls, and make sure our side is properly represented, and let people know that we're not just 'whiners', incapable of being satisfied. The average 'Joe' out there needs to be told about these DVDs and why they're not what they should or could be. GL needs to be embarrassed by this whole fiasco.

Hopefully, Leonard Maltin will mention the controversy when the DVDs come out. I'm hoping Roger Ebert will as well.
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#229941
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ComicCon - to highlight our cause?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229941/action/topic#229941
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Originally posted by: Tiptup

Just make up a question that sounds intellectual (but is actually shallow) and will make Lucasfilm feel special (but not in an obvious way) and then pretend that will be your question. There's a good chance they'd let you as it and then when you get to the mike, drop your bombshell.
It's too bad people didn't do that- I would have thought that would have been the obvious thing to do. It's a shame none of us were there.

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#229929
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We're Still Immature Whiners to MSNBC
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229929/action/topic#229929
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Originally posted by: SpecialEditionSaboteur
The author's personal website if anyone wants to send him an email; he even encourages it at the bottom of his article.


I'm going to send him an email and explain to him exactly how UNdemanding we really are. ALL we want is for three of the the greatest, most influential films ever made to be released (in their original forms) and given the same DVD treatment that any Pauly Shore movie has.
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#229754
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OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229754/action/topic#229754
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From the above link:

"Some discs have no progressive_frame flag set on any pictures on the disc, and don’t use repeat_first_field. They just dump the film transfer with its inherent 3-2 pulldown onto the disc without any special flags, as though it was video. When this is done, 2 out of every 5 frames on the disc contain fields from two different frames of film (see the third MPEG flags table at the top of the article for a diagram). Again, a player that uses the flags exclusively will treat this material as video, and you lose the special film mode deinterlacing that makes a progressive player look so good. In the worst case, the player will combine fields that are stored in one MPEG frame, but came from two different film frames, causing combing."
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#229749
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OOT DVDs - interlaced or progressive?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229749/action/topic#229749
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Originally posted by: Mentasm

So basically, does that mean that all progressive film sourced material is encoded as interlaced field pairs to save on space, then flags tell the player to repeat fields to allow for playback on interlaced displays? Presumably when the progressive flag is set (as it should be for film sourced material) the player realises that the fields come from the same frame and ignores the 2-3 sequence, thereby reconstructing the progressive frame?


I've found a great site that explains all of this pretty well. It basically says (if I understood correctly) that there are various ways that a DVD can be encoded- and it boils down to how well your particular DVD player de-interlaces the particular material/information on the DVD, in order to make it progressive. Some DVD players just use flags, others (the better ones) can detect the correct de-interlacing algorithim to use based on the motion in the frame ("motion-adaptive").

Full article here:
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They also review a ton of different DVD players, and grade them on how well they de-interlace various types of DVDs (with various 'cadences', etc.)

Maybe they just had a crappy de-interlacer at Comic-Con? I guess well find out soon enough.
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#229718
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229718/action/topic#229718
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Originally posted by: Mike O
I know. I'm just bitter. I just want a proper release of three of my favorite movies at some point before I die, and doesn't look like I'll bet it anytime soon. The one odd bit is Darth Fist's comments about the preparation of a new transfer. I just don't know anymore.

Mike- if there's one thing we can count on, it's that we can't take GL at his word. You know- "star wars will never be on home video", "ONE LAST TIME!" etc., so- cheer up!

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#229593
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Another Form Of Protest?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229593/action/topic#229593
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Originally posted by: Mike O
Lucas is stubborn, inconsistent, and frustrating. But he's not stupid.

Like I mentioned before, I think the press is going to do a lot of our work for us and give us a head start, because any magazine reviewer or movie reviewer worth his/her salt is going to lambaste Lucasfilm for releasing these classic films in such an outdated fashion.


True, but they probably won't care, as they don't seem to care about anything else.

They'll care. "Sound And Vision" mag and "The Perfect Vision" mag will DEFINITELY rake GL over the coals for this. So will any other home theater magazine that reviews new DVD releases, and comments on their picture/sound quality.

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#229571
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The "original crawl" on the new DVD is NOT the original crawl! Screenshot inside!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229571/action/topic#229571
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Originally posted by: seventiesfilmnut
What's the bet we're getting the 1993 sound mix rather than the 'original' theatrical one as well? Lucasfilm should be doen for false advertising! They did it before with the "Buy it one LAST time" Faces LD's in 1995 to....

Who can trust anything Lucas/Lucasfilm says anymore?

I don't doubt for a minute that we're getting the '93 sound mix. If we're getting the '93 LD transfers, we're getting the same sound too. Personally, I don't mind, because I have no problem with the sound on the '93 and '95 laserdiscs.

As far as the term "original" goes, I guess that's up to interpretation when it comes to Lucasfilm.

A question about the "crawl"-- from what I understand, it's more than just the absence of the "episode IV: a new hope" that's different about the original '77 crawl-- from what I've heard, the text in whole crawl is formatted differently, (eg- "death star" is on one line in the original, but is on two lines in the revised version) Is that true? If so, we'll probably be able to tell if they just "erased" the "ep. IV..." part if the formatting is the same as the latter version.

Also, I agree with Zion that the crawl we see in the DVD ad is probably a quickie mock-up done just for the trailer. I wonder if this same trailer will be shown on TV and in movie theaters?
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#229567
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229567/action/topic#229567
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Originally posted by: Tiptup
Neat! What was the original letter you sent him?

This is what I sent (I sent a similar one to Roger Ebert):


Dear Mr. Maltin,

As you're probably aware, for the first time the original versions of the original Star Wars Trilogy will be released on September 12th, packaged along with the Special Edition versions. However, as will all things Star Wars, there is a lot of controversy surrounding them, because of the fact that the original version DVDs will be non-anamorphic, made from 13-year-old laserdisc masters. The release is seen as a feeble attempt on the part of George Lucas, to placate fans who have been clamoring for a DVD release of the original, pre-Special Editon films. When the news about the non-anamorphic release started to leak, Lucasfilm publicist Lynne Hale sent out a press release stating, disturbingly, that “The negatives of the movies were permanently altered for the creation of the Special Editions, and existing prints of the first versions are in poor condition”, hence, the use of letterboxed laserdisc masters for the upcoming release.

I would imagine that not only Star Wars fans would be upset by this statement, but ALL film-lovers and preservationists as well.

I have forwarded to you a letter which I sent to Ms. Hale, protesting this sub-standard September 12th release. I've sent it to you, because I thought you would be the best person to inform consumers about this release, and help put pressure on Lucasfilm/Fox to reconsider the manner in which these much beloved films are being treated (I've also forwarded the letter to new Lucasfilm VP Jim Ward).

I look forward to seeing your review of these newest Star Wars DVDs.

Best wishes,
M. R.

P.S. Please visit originaltrilogy.com run by Jay Sylvester. Over the last few years, his site has collected over 75,000 signatures to get the original Star Wars Trilogy released on DVD. The forums are just full of disappointed fans these days.

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#229332
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I got a response from Leonard Maltin.....
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229332/action/topic#229332
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I wrote a letter to Mr. Maltin about the DVD controversy, and I just got a response:

"I'm sure the folks at LucasFilm are aware of the outcry from diehard fans, but if you know anything about George Lucas, then you know that he tends to do exactly as he pleases.

Leonard"

Not exactly what I was hoping for- but there you go.

I'm still waiting to hear from Roger Ebert. He's been sick, so it might be a while if he does decide to respond.