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- Star Wars Prologue - Epic Prequel Edit (Released)
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Originally posted by: DarthBo
This was originally all explained in episode III, but as Liam Neeson didn't want to reprise his role the scene was cut. The novel is a must read if not for this scene alone.
In short: when Jedis die, they stop existing, like normal beings. Qui-Gon Jin however learned how to 'join with the Force, yet retain consciousness'. So after he died he was still able to talk with Yoda through the Force. He told Yoda what he had learned and also told him that with training 'perhaps, in time, even your physical self' could be retained.
So there you have it: Qui-Gon didn't disappear because only his mind became one with the Force. Obi-Wan was the first to become physically one with the Force, thus disappearing.
If only it were possible to add this scene to the film (Neeson soundalikes step up please)...
Originally posted by: Anti-Matter
Are you sure that Qui-gon should (or needs to) ghost-out at the moment of death? I have to check again, but someone I spoke with seemed to "know" instantly that Qui-gon cannot ghost-out, based on a private conversation between Yoda and Obi-wan.
Are you sure that Qui-gon should (or needs to) ghost-out at the moment of death? I have to check again, but someone I spoke with seemed to "know" instantly that Qui-gon cannot ghost-out, based on a private conversation between Yoda and Obi-wan.
This was originally all explained in episode III, but as Liam Neeson didn't want to reprise his role the scene was cut. The novel is a must read if not for this scene alone.
In short: when Jedis die, they stop existing, like normal beings. Qui-Gon Jin however learned how to 'join with the Force, yet retain consciousness'. So after he died he was still able to talk with Yoda through the Force. He told Yoda what he had learned and also told him that with training 'perhaps, in time, even your physical self' could be retained.
So there you have it: Qui-Gon didn't disappear because only his mind became one with the Force. Obi-Wan was the first to become physically one with the Force, thus disappearing.
If only it were possible to add this scene to the film (Neeson soundalikes step up please)...
I'd rather Qui-Gon just disappeared then you wouldn't need the terrible explanation! this is George's attempt to explain Obi-Wan's line "I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" but that could have easily been explained away by the fact Anakin was not a Jedi Master and may not have learned all the jedi's secrets, even if he knew jedi disappeared (he should do he killed enough!) he still wouldn't know they had the power to come back. (all this is of course based on information from the Original trilogy, or at least doesn't contradict it, unlike the prequels)
you could also consider showing some other Jedi disappearing during the Order 66 and Genosis sequence.
I'd also love it if you could remove the emperor's melted face from EPIII, as this really didn't need to be explained in the prequels.
