Yes we know, but just about every other sound project (Mono restoration, 77 analogue stereo, Hairy Hen's 70mm recreation, 85 stereo remix) have all been synced to the GOUT.
Honestly, as much as I love it, the quality of the Puggo leaves a lot to be desired and cannot compare to a 35mm Low fade print. It'd be like spicing in a VHS capture in a high def image. You'd probably be best either forgetting about whatever various frames might be missing, or if you want to be a completist, use the blu ray.
Huh, sorry bout that - I had looked around to see if anyone had posted this... ABORT ABORT!
I found this the other day and thought it was pretty cool!
http://www.markdermul.be/savelars/
(To Mods, it seemed like this was the best place to put this, but feel free to move it, otherwise)
red5-626 said:
Mavimao said:
TK-949 said:
negative1 said:Laserschwert said:
I guess with all the audio projects going on here, it's not really that problematic to NOT have sound coming with the files.
you have to be careful,
even trying to synch it with the GOUT audio
will not work correctly. it's close at times,
but it's not exact.
you will have to stretch, trim, or alter either
the frames or the actual audio to match up
with it....
Why? I mean, are there frames missing? Because if not, the sound of the GOUT would fit, wouldn't it?
Assuming this project outputs at 23.98 fps, then yes theoretically it can match up to the Gout, but when you're dealing with film, there can always be differences in frames. Especially around the reel changes.
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<span style="font-family: Arial;">I remember I had a editing class that used.
Final cut pro.
There was some way that you could edit using a low quality video so that you would not have to wait for ever rendering on every change. Than when you edit was dun you could put in the hi quality video and it would automatically edit it to what you had set.
Considering what you said about reel changes.
It may be a good idea to synch each reel separately </span>
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TK-949 said:
negative1 said:
Laserschwert said:
I guess with all the audio projects going on here, it's not really that problematic to NOT have sound coming with the files.
you have to be careful,
even trying to synch it with the GOUT audio
will not work correctly. it's close at times,
but it's not exact.
you will have to stretch, trim, or alter either
the frames or the actual audio to match up
with it....
Why? I mean, are there frames missing? Because if not, the sound of the GOUT would fit, wouldn't it?
Uh that picture is not of Val Kilmer! He was not in Real Science. It was Bill Paxton as Chet transformed by "Lisa" for tormenting his brother.
I am curious, what frames do you plan on using from the faded English print?
The color correction makes quite the difference but I can see how you're going to use the spliced in English crawl on your Spanish print.
Looks like a light leak. Maybe the lab leaked in a little light during the copy process.
Just was curious... So this P&S Japanese LD of schorman13's has the original 77 fanfare AND the 77 dolby stereo mix... in digital???
How awesome!
Did you do a bit for bit digital transfer? Would that even make a difference?
Who knows what treasures other obscure P&S LDs have in terms of sound. Mono mix and or 70mm mix in digital :-D ? One can dream...
I also don't understand this Hamill bashing. He managed to take really badly written dialogue ("I was going to the Toshi station to pick up some power converters!") and make it believable - something 2/3rds of the PT cast couldn't manage to do.
I'm pretty positive that the master used for the GOUT was the same master used for the THX "Faces" set...
I 'm sure those bars are there to account for TV overscan. This way, you're not losing information on either side of the image when you play it back on a CRT TV.
EDIT: NM, I see there's a contrast difference between the black in the letterbox sections and the side bars. Hm...interesting.
It's the background. The DEED print shot isn't the same exact frame as the others.
Elementary my dear Watson.
Sounds like a hastily made telecine making adjustments to brightness in real time. I've seen my fair share of those.
Downloaded it overnight and will mux it into my Despecialized versions when I get home in a couple of weeks! Thanks a lot!
OK, I was a bit mistaken, an entirely new mix wasn't made, but they'd gone back to the original recordings to fix up spots.
Here are the sources:
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/exclusive-interview-the-sound-of-star-wars/9055/
http://www.thehdroom.com/news/Star-Wars-Blu-ray-Up-Close-at-LucasFilm-Part-2-of-3/9427
SilverWook said:
No problem. It will be interesting to find out if they are different than the Blu Ray mixes.
Do you know if it's the mono mix on the tape?
Ah crap, I had forgotten about that restoration thread. RETREAT! RETREAT!
No, but to answer Baronlando, I had read somewhere that the Special Editions for ESB and ROTJ were put together using a dupe negative. Apparently the original A/B rolls were untouched.
I wish I could find the source for that...
Unfortunately the original star wars has seen most of the abuse. A lot of what I read has shown that the original effects negatives have faded into nothing, the separation masters are incomplete, so the best source for a restoration would be an IP or dupe negative (if that even exists) or an IB print.
Danny Boy brings up a good question: if there is indeed a copy of a negative of the original star wars, but with recomped special effects and nothing else, would you be satisfied with this version? Or would it still not be THE original film for you?
Catbus, I know exactly what you're talking about with ROTJ. That really bothers me as well.
In case anyone is wondering, the PAL gout and the NTSC gout use different telecine sources (unlike ANH and ESB whose PAL gout discs are upscaled NTSC masters) and there is a slight cut in frames at Reel ends on the different sources.
A lot of the GOUT synced audio projects were done using the NTSC GOUT to keep sync but a majority of the remastered projects (Harmy's / Dark Jedi's) use the PAL video because of its higher quality. Thus the sync issue. So CatBus's ROTJ audio probably would be great to mux in.
Oh I know, and there's also the Mono restoration track that I've listened to. I guess I was hoping to find a really nice quality version of it.
Ah it's too bad the rest of the reels aren't in Mono!