Whereas it MIGHT exist for episodes 2 and 3 (but I’m not sure if they just hard cropped the 1080p image or used a 1.3 anamorphic squeeze lens) but it wouldn’t exist for episode 1 which was shot on film with 2x anamorphic lenses. Everything that’s on the film is pretty much up on screen.
I’m sure his kid is dying to see it!
msycamore said:
The Force Awakens: Not yet seen. And have not yet decided if I’m going to. Please, convince a grumpy old fart if he should?I went with my dad to see TFA. My dad was 6 in '77 and saw it in all its glory, as well as the other two following. He has no respect for the prequels.
Then this past Saturday, my old man teared up and smiled seeing all the old characters return. You’ll won’t see these actors for very long, and it would be a motivating factor to see them return one last time in my opinion. The stars you grew up with.
Ha ha, that’s fantastic, I’m born in '71 myself. I loathed the very idea of a new film with the old cast a few years ago but I see so many positive responses lately I’m thinking about swallowing the bait…
Thanks guys
Keep an open mind. Don’t let the dark side cloud your thoughts. Enjoy the ride and nitpick later.
Go and see this movie and just have fun.
It is indeed VHS broadcast recordings from Europe with the CD soundtrack for the titles.
Rey’s transformation is NOT rushed because as I wrote a couple of pages ago:
Guys, am I taking crazy pills or did anyone not hear and see what was going on in that flashback? Obi-Wan says “Rey, these are your first steps.” Followed by the slaughter of the Jedi by the knights of Ren, followed by a shot of Rey being left on Jakku.
By using some simple logical deduction, Rey has had Jedi training and is being hidden from Ren. It’s when the force is used upon her for interrogation, that these repressed skills are awakened. This isn’t a “Mary Sue” moment where she’s suddenly able to do incredible things from nowhere. It’s different from Luke who had to start from scratch.
Are we forgetting the most popular character from The Clone Wars was a female Jedi in training? I’ve seen a lot of girls dressing as Ashoka. And she was brought back for Rebels.
I haven’t watched Clone Wars nor Rebels, but that’s great to hear.
Here’s a female perspective on gender in Star Wars and specifically Rey’s character: http://themuse.jezebel.com/finally-women-do-more-than-give-birth-die-in-star-wa-1748930943
Also, this is pretty damning: http://youtu.be/ODgwL7DJ9dY
Guys, am I taking crazy pills or did anyone not hear and see what was going on in that flashback? Obi-Wan says “Rey, these are your first steps.” Followed by the slaughter of the Jedi by the knights of Ren, followed by a shot of Rey being left on Jakku.
By using some simple logical deduction, Rey has had Jedi training and is being hidden from Ren. It’s when the force is used upon her for interrogation, that these repressed skills are awakened. This isn’t a “Mary Sue” moment where she’s suddenly able to do incredible things from nowhere.
And besides, she’s not perfect. She has serious trust issues and is afraid of change. She spends the film trying to get back to her crummy life on Jakku instead of finding a better one for herself.
I also think some of the dudes here need to realize how important Rey is as a character for young girls. No longer are young female Star Wars fans forced to play Princess Leia in the playground and wait for their other friends to come and rescue them. Now they can play a Jedi who works together with others to defeat the baddie at the end.
camroncamera said:
Wow, I was already very impressed with the theatrical showing in Vancouver earlier this month (presumably from the same source that’s been projected there three years in a row). The only obvious flaw I can remember was the short glitch in the Diahann Carroll performance.That glitch has been painstakingly patched over, and it’s really hard to spot where.
Mavimao said:
Awesome! Will check it out when I get back from the in laws. Are you able to say what the source of this specific version is?From off a master copy, as noted by the lack of commercials and lack of voice-over on the credits.
–SKot
Wow! One was actually found!? Great find!
Well, here’s the scoop: EditDroid (you guys remember EditDroid, right?) is back with a new release…and that release is a previously uncirculated version of the Holiday Special that blows away anything else out there. Some of you may have spotted it by now; it’s up in the usual places.
Believe me when I say that when it comes to quality, this is about as good as it’s ever going to get. Even an official release (as unlikely as that may be) would have a hard time topping this one.
Until we see the real thing, I think this is the definitive one at long last.
–SKot
Awesome! Will check it out when I get back from the in laws. Are you able to say what the source of this specific version is?
I watched it for a 2nd time in 3d imax (yay!) but it was dubbed in French (boo). The initial excitement was, of course, disspiated but I still enjoyed the film, although watching it again, the starkiller sideplot seems so tacked on. We already have a McGuffin with both sides trying to find Luke. There was no need for another Death Star. If JJ’s goal was to equal the fighting ground between the First Order and the Republic, I think that a better way would have been to have a kamikaze stormtrooper destroy the planets.
But I did notice going in that it was POE who shot at and killed Finn’s friend at the beginning. And also that Finn’s numbers were the same as Princess Leia’s cell number in ANH.
For the Frenchies out there: I found it interesting that when 3po appears he says “It’s me! C3po! Previously known as Z6po”. Also my crowd laughed when Poe says “FN? What kinda name is that?” (FN is the name of the ultra right wing party in France)
Just got back from the theater and I can honestly say I had a great time at the movie. The only things that I didn’t exactly care for were the look of Snoke, and the fact that the word “Sith” was used in the film.
When did Snoke use the word “Sith.” I remember him throwing out the “Knights of Ren” (which must have confused anyone who’s been paying attention to spoilers these last few months), but I can’t recall him mentioning the Sith.
Can you remember what context Snoke used it in?
It wasn’t Snoke, it was Maz Kanata who said it when listing off the evils the galaxy had already faced (the Sith, the Empire).
REPORT-Jedi-v2.0WP
Everyone has pretty much already pointed out the other issues, but I did want to add my 2c on some of the 35mm sources.
The Rancor 35mm elements are too dark compared to the BR version and not quite the same color (the BR seem brownish and the 35mm shots are greenish).
The Sarlacc 35mm elements seem a little ‘hot’ and blown out. I don’t know if the highlights need to be decreased or what (I know crap about color correction…)
I read it recently and found it a bit disappointing. I think I had higher expectations since everyone seems to praise the books to heaven and back so it’s a bit of my own fault.
In any case I like the story he thought up for a post ROTJ world.
There has been an a-Wookiee-ning. Have you felt it?
Something is coming.
–SKot
Great SKot!
OK, guys, I have some questions.
Full disclosure: I have not seen the movie. So I am trying to be fair.
But isn’t this a case of the Emperor is wearing no clothes?
It seems pretty clear that the plot on paper is just a blatant carbon copy of the original movie. Sure, there are some tangential differences, but the essential elements of the movie are identical to the first film.
So knowing this, how can anyone still say this is a good movie?
I understand the practical effects are great, the costumes are great, the special effects are great, and that it’s better than the prequels. I get that. But even knowing and accepting that, how can a carbon copy movie be considered “good”? Aren’t those concepts mutually exclusive?
Why isn’t there more outrage? Why isn’t there a sentiment that, “Hey! We’ve been ripped off! Conned!”
Isn’t this very much a case of parents re-wrapping last year’s Christmas presents?
I’m not being facetious. I’d really like to understand the perspective of other fans, especially those who agree with me that the movie is a copy of ANH but still say it’s good.
I think the main reason is that the real story is about Rey and her mysterious origins. The starkiller base, when you think about it, is actually very insignificant to the plot it’s easily forgettable. It’s a MacGuffin in the truest sense of the word.
Its execution is great though: it hits the right beats, it’s exciting, funny and you care for the main characters.
I think the majority of the people on this board liked the film - most with some reservations.
Some are not going to like it and to be honest, I can understand why. This film has issues and some of us can overlook them and concentrate the stuff we loved and others just can’t.
It’s funny, though. SW and ESB are my top two all time favorite movies. I’m sure I’m not only on that here. But they have issues too. I can recognize them. Now, I’m not saying that TFA is on par with them (the issues are bigger), but it’s crazy that we can all look past the little flaws in SW and ESB and enjoy the films for what they are but we can’t with anything new (most of us can look past the many issues in ROTJ, so why not TFA, which is probably less problematic?). TFA is a heck of a lot of fun. I think you guys are missing that…
I actually loved the film! I probably like it more than Jedi, which, after watching it last week to get ready for TFA, found that it was a bit boring and phoned in.
I have issues with SW and ESB to be sure! (The first act in SW goes on way too long for example), but like TFA, the positives outweigh the negatives.
I think the majority of the people on this board liked the film - most with some reservations.
Some are not going to like it and to be honest, I can understand why. This film has issues and some of us can overlook them and concentrate the stuff we loved and others just can’t.
Btw what are the overall impressions at theforce.net? I’m too scared to go alone…
7.5/10
BTW, did anyone else get the same feeling that I did while watching the film that Adam Driver’s performance as Kylo Ren is more or less what Anakin should have been like in the PT?
Ah! Good idea. Anakin going nuts with his saber and destroying a computer when frustrated? Excellent.
Here’s my review: https://youtu.be/Oiqlkz81744
Great video! You basically echo my exact feelings on this film.
Rey may well be Kylo Rens twin - sure lots of people might find it stupid but it’s perfectly logical considering that twins pass through the female line in families.
I’m going to guess cousins. That she’s Luke’s daughter.
I really don’t want to sound argumentative or terribly cynical, and I understand that so many fans really want to like this movie, but seriously, I have to say, at this point, knowing what we know how can anyone suggest this movie is good?
I wonder at times if everyone in society has collectively lost his mind.
This movie is clearly a cheap ripoff. A con. A money grab. A bait and switch.
The Empire was defeated in the original trilogy. No problem! We have a new, improved empire! Complete with an evil guy in black robes, scary mask, and red light saber!
You like cool stormtroopers? Snowtroopers? WE GOT 'EM! The Empire 2.0 has got oodles of stormtroopers!
How did the Republic allow the Empire 2.0 to come into existence? Who cares! It’s a movie! Please don’t answer, “How did the original empire come into existence?” Because the answer is simple – a corrupt politician seized the existing legal republican government, a la Adolf Hitler, that’s how. So did the new Republic make the same mistake? No, because the new Republic still exists in this new universe. So WTF? Oh well…who needs things to make sense?
So we have a cute, plucky little beachball droid carrying a secret message being hunted by the bad guys. Uh, wait…isn’t that just a straight, cheap ripoff?
So we have an Force-sensitive, unknown orphan who grew up on an entirely desert planet who is unaware of her vast potential. Um, hello? Again, cheap ripoff copycat?
By the way, I thought even Force-sensitives had to be TRAINED to use the Force before they can?
So the Empire 2.0 has stormtroopers, but they’re not clones…and they’re not conscripts or recruits. So the Empire 2.0 breeds them? From birth? So the Empire 2.0 has some vast wing of babies being birthed to become stormtroopers somewhere? How else do you explain that “Finn” does not have a name?
Why is it that in a galaxy populated by trillions of people, we keep bumping into the same four or five over and over, no matter where we go? And the same goes for spaceships, too. How awfully convenient that the Millenium Falcon just happens to be on the desert planet that Rey is on? And how awfully convenient that Han Solo decides it’s a good idea to take back ownership of the Falcon at the age of, what, 70?
So the Empire 2.0 has an even bigger, badder Death Star. It blows up stars! But it’s on a planet…so it cannot travel from place to place in the galaxy…so it shoots its laser or plasma or whatever blasts from light years away and the blast travels and travels and travels across the galaxy to hit its target? What does the laser blast make the jump to hyperspace itself to get to its target in due time?
I mean, really? The Death Star thing all over again? Really? And somehow the First Order/Empire 2.0 is capable of making a weapon even more powerful that the Death Stars, despite the fact that it’s not the ruling government of the entire galaxy?!
And really, like, say, 10 or 20 years before this movie is set there was NO ONE in the Republic saying, “Hey, guys! A bunch of copycats are restarting the Empire! They’re building star destroyers and TIE fighters and maybe a planet killing machine thing! We need to stop them!”?!
And really, Rey thinks the Jedi and all that jazz is “legend.” Um, hello? That war was only 30 years ago! That would be like saying the events of 1985 are just perceived as “legends” today in 2015. Please. Yeah, WWII was just a legend. Right.
SURPRISE! The bad guy is Han and Leia’s son! Wow! Never saw that coming! What a huge reveal!
Luke Skywalker’s Jedi Academy is wiped out, SO HE LEAVES?!? GOES INTO HIDING?! When there’s a perfectly safe Resistance planet he could have gone to to help out in the fight?! Don’t tell me Obi Wan went into hiding, because he didn’t. He took Luke to safety on Tatooine and then guarded over him because he knew that the only person who could possibly sway Darth Vader back to the light was Vader’s son.
Leia gets word that there’s a lead as to where her brother is…so she sends her best PILOT to collect the intel? Yeah, because when there’s important information to be collected in Iraq or Syria or Russia, President Obama sends his best F-16 pilot.
Han Solo: “Hey, Finn, I hear you have some really important information to get to Leia. I mean, we could just, you know, do one of those video chats that we do all the time, but, nah. We’ll go there in person. In the Millenium Falcon. BUT FIRST! We have to make a pitstop at a bar in a castle so you can meet my old Force sensitive mentor!” Finn: “But Han! In the first movie released in 1977, you told Obi Wan that you didn’t believe in the Force! That you had traveled from one end of the galaxy to the other and just concluded it was just ‘simple tricks and nonsense.’” Han: “Um…oh yeah.”
Stupid. Effing stupid. Completely cheap and stupid. Insulting to the intelligence. There should a huge public outcry. Outrage! Instead? 99% Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes!
If I’m reading your message correctly, it seems like you haven’t seen the film? While you’re right on some points (ie: the Starkiller - they really couldn’t come up with anything else?), others aren’t quite so.
The First Order isn’t a “New Empire” - it feels much like the Thrawn trilogy with the remains hiding out far away from the Republic. They’re described as having “risen from the ashes” and their stormtroopers seem to have actually been kidnapped at young ages (as per Finn’s dialogue) and brought up with propaganda and training (slave labor troops?). Nothing is really sure about the politics of this universe. It might be like the USA in the 1860s: split with two different governments. Or perhaps the Resistance is a separate military branch with some independence from the Republic?
Luke set up a Jedi school, but Kylo Ren and his knights destroyed it. There seems to be some reason as to why he went into hiding because…
Rey has an interesting flashback which suggests that she’s had Jedi training and was sent to Jakku to be safe (possibly from the Knights of Ren?). Her presence sets off a series of events - like R2 telling the Resistance where Luke is hiding. So perhaps, she was Luke’s last hope but was too young when Ren destroyed the Jedi school?
The whole story is not designed to make all that much sense, good luck for the authors of the sequels to tie everything up. Some basic things are just left hanging in the air (if there is a new Republic now, how the First Order and the Resistance came to be etc). First I thought that Rey was a Jedi student as well and after Kylo’s turn to the dark side she was placed on Jakuu with her memories suppressed to hide and protect her, and the Falcon was there as sort of an escape option in case she gets in trouble. But no, it’s all just a coincidence.
The Force works in contrived ways.
Do you plan on watching the movie with an open mind? I’m getting an angry old man, yelling at sky vibe here.