Downloading as we speak! Thanks a lot Puggo!
Any updates on the GOUT-synced ROTP audio, Mavimao?
Puggo messaged me a while back and said he’d send me the uncompressed files, but I still haven’t received anything. I know he has a busy life so I don’t like to insist. Hopefully we’ll get them soon.
Would working with the compressed tracks on the dvd be bad? I’m not a compression expert but 16mm optical has really crap frequency range. Would there really be a giant loss of information?
Ha, I thought the same thing when I saw this documentary.
I am VERY interested in this show.
Oh man, I fear my Youtube feed is going to be into overdrive with ‘suggested’ Star Wars videos again… Is there any way to tell Youtube to stop suggesting negative hot takes? Haven’t they built that into their algorithm?
Great find! Hopefully, better sources will appear in the future. Is it in French?
I haven’t heard from Puggo, but I should send him a PM rather than just shooting off a comment in this thread.
I read an article how machine learning was able to remove watermarks from photos.
Thanks for the restoration of that Horizon episode, Harmy! As a layman that doesn’t work in special effects or the film industry, it was amazing to see what analog tricks people could do back in the day! Also cool to see the analog origins of terms like matte etc.
I have 3 questions for you:
- was there any reason you used H264 instead of H265/AV1 as a video codec?
- was there any reason you used AAC instead of Opus as an audio codec?
- is it OK if I put your 2 restoration versions and your 5-min intro into a torrent and start seeding it for more people to grab it?
Thanks for the great work again!
I’ll let Harmy give a definitive answer, but for me, h265 doesn’t have enough hardware support and Opus is pretty non standard. 264 and AAC are industry standards and the video will work in pretty much all devices.
Continuing discussion from this thread.
As to [Hux’s] seriousness, I’d say it’s about the same in both. He’s not making jokes in TLJ, he’s the butt of them.
Every moment he has in the film is undercut with him being made a joke. The only actual serious moment he has is when he almost shoots Ren and that was an improvised moment from Gleeson.
Snoke has a far bigger role with much greater relevance to the plot at hand in TLJ than TFA. Just because you expected him to survive TLJ because of his role in the lore pre-TFA doesn’t mean his death undermines TFA. In any way.
I don’t care at all that he died in TLJ. It was a good moment of character growth for Ben. What is inexcusable is that Snoke was not expounded upon AT ALL before his death.
Are we talking about the same character who crawls across a crowded table to stare at Finn in TFA?
Come on. You very well know there’s a galaxy of difference between crawling across a table and literally flying around like a video game character taking out hordes of off-screen enemies.
TFA was the film that sent [Luke] into hiding in the first goddamn place. I’m honestly baffled that anyone expected anything else of his character other than reluctance.
The very nature of his originally intended introduction says otherwise. Here are just a few alternative explanations for why he disappeared:
- As explained in TFA he went off looking for the first Jedi temple. Why? Perhaps in hopes of learning how to defeat Snoke. Why? What if Snoke was an ancient evil of some kind that Luke was unprepared to deal with.
- After finding the temple he crashes and is stranded. Perhaps the nature of the planet is such that it blocks anyone from reaching out or being reached out to in the Force. Which is why the temple was built there in the first place.
- Perhaps there were other survivors from his original academy that he secreted away to continue teaching. Hiding so that they can continue in peace without fear of Kylo returning to finish what he started.
- Perhaps Luke knew he wasn’t meant to be the one to stop Snoke and so he shuts himself off and devotes himself to preparing to train the one who is. Waiting for the Force to bring them to him.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. TLJ didn’t contradict TFA at all.
TFA ends with a clear setup for the sequel that TLJ completely ignores. “Leave the base at once and come to me with Kylo Ren. It is time to complete his training.”
The start of TLJ should have been the mirroring of Rey and Ben through their simultaneous training. You can even keep the “Forcetime” plot device so that they can communicate with each other throughout this time.
The Kylo training segments would also be an opportunity to expound on Snoke.
Go to 0:33 in this video:
Quote: “Luke felt responsible. He just walked away from everything.”
So yeah, this is word for word consistent with what we saw in TLJ.
So, has this been cancelled?
Who knows? The problem with your link is that it lists a lot of sources from the ‘foaming at the mouth’ side of TLJ hate-dom who are reading too deeply into something someone mentioned. I’m sure they’d love nothing more than to see Rian Johnson fail and are spreading FUD to satisfy their desires.
I personally hope Disney and Rian persevere.
^^ yeah, the video is formatted for 16x9 tvs. Ipads are 4x3 if I remember correctly.
Congratulations Puggo! The circle is now complete.
Yes I am interested in doing a GOUT sync for the 16mm mono track. There probably aren’t any differences but you never know.
If you can send me the uncompressed track, that’d be great!
Hey Harmy, thank you for taking the time to create a “purist” version. I’ll be downloading this when I get home!
Looks great Dré!
Fang Zei said:
can the holiday special be remastered in HD? i thought it had been shot on tape, therefore that would be impossible. what about the ewok movies and the 80’s cartoons, can those be HD?
All the live action stuff in the holiday special (which is most of it, IIRC) was shot/finished on standard def videotape*, yes. The animated sequences might benefit in some way if they were shot on film first and those elements still exist in storage somewhere, ditto for the 80’s cartoons.
The Ewok movies can absolutely benefit from HD and even 4k**, since they were shot on film (presumably 35mm).
*pretty sure this was analog videotape too
**Don’t say it’ll never happen! We already got the Peanuts specials released in 4k UHD with both SDR and HDR versions included, and I’m pretty sure at least one of the Ewok movies actually got a theatrical release.
Yup, it would have been analogue video as digital video wasn’t released until 1986.
It would definitely remove a lot of red tape. Star Wars would now entirely belong to one entity instead of being split up.
- Fox Fanfare for all movies (why not add them to the sequel trilogy as well?)
- OT restoration and distribution.
But the final word is up to Lucasfilm or Disney.
We never got the Maz Leia scene from TFA, did we? They’ll probably pull footage/dialogue from that.
Maybe. There’s also another deleted scene that was on the home release. The Oliver Reed in Gladiator treatment would be fine, depending on what they have to work with.
I saw on Twitter that there was also a scene filmed of Leia at the Republic asking for ressources.
They could still do some CGI compositing to put her into new scenes ala Brandon Lee in The Crow.
True! As well as body doubles from behind. In any case I am glad they found a solution rather than just starting episode nine with ‘oh and Leia’s dead’…
Casting announced: https://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-ix-cast-announced
Tl;dr: Carrie will be back… but by using unused footage from Force Awakens. Luke and Lando confirmed as well.
Well, one step closer…
Hmm… the magenta looks a bit too strong on those faces.
This is a great documentary and I love seeing it in great quality with the modern scans spliced in but…pillarboxed AND letterboxed? I feel like I’ve time travelled back to the late 90s, early 2000s!
In all honesty, it looks really tiny. I personally think a simple pillarboxed presentation is best.
If I understood the TOS situation correctly, or in other words if the people in the comment sections under those videos were correct, the Blu-rays are not source from the ORIGINAL negatives, as the promotional material suggests, but from new internegs created in early 80’s for syndication. That’s why they include unified opening credits (originally each of the first 13 episodes had slightly different opening credits) and fixed some of the effects scenes, like the planet shots in The Naked Time.
Harmy - a quick question - so are the TNG episodes available on Netflix in whole Europe? Do they contain the fixed versions? http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/08/netflix-brings-vfx-fixes-to-star-trek-tng-in-hd/2/ I’ve been searching for the fixed episodes for years, so if they are indeed there maybe I can finally have a reason to get Netflix myself.
And by the way, not ALL of the effects were done on video. Only Dan Curry’s team apparently shot effects on video at 30fps, Rob Legato’s team and definitely ILM were shooting them on classic 35mm film.
Well, on the making of documentary for the TOS blurays, they’re definitely handling negatives. Beyond that, I have no idea why there are tiny differences between the two.
For TNG, the only effects that were “video” were the early CGI and phaser shots (maybe others as well). But Dan Curry definitely shot on film but at 30 fps which caused some issues for the remaster since everything was done at 24 fps instead of 30 fps of the video masters. You do see some weird artifacts, but unless you’re really staring at it, it’s fine.
And the reason for recreated shots of the ship were because they would often be missing an element like a light pass or a matte pass and it would have been too difficult to recreate the missing pass in CG so the entire shot would be replaced instead.