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#1224951
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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pittrek said:

If I understood the TOS situation correctly, or in other words if the people in the comment sections under those videos were correct, the Blu-rays are not source from the ORIGINAL negatives, as the promotional material suggests, but from new internegs created in early 80’s for syndication. That’s why they include unified opening credits (originally each of the first 13 episodes had slightly different opening credits) and fixed some of the effects scenes, like the planet shots in The Naked Time.

Harmy - a quick question - so are the TNG episodes available on Netflix in whole Europe? Do they contain the fixed versions? http://trekcore.com/blog/2015/08/netflix-brings-vfx-fixes-to-star-trek-tng-in-hd/2/ I’ve been searching for the fixed episodes for years, so if they are indeed there maybe I can finally have a reason to get Netflix myself.
And by the way, not ALL of the effects were done on video. Only Dan Curry’s team apparently shot effects on video at 30fps, Rob Legato’s team and definitely ILM were shooting them on classic 35mm film.

Well, on the making of documentary for the TOS blurays, they’re definitely handling negatives. Beyond that, I have no idea why there are tiny differences between the two.

For TNG, the only effects that were “video” were the early CGI and phaser shots (maybe others as well). But Dan Curry definitely shot on film but at 30 fps which caused some issues for the remaster since everything was done at 24 fps instead of 30 fps of the video masters. You do see some weird artifacts, but unless you’re really staring at it, it’s fine.

And the reason for recreated shots of the ship were because they would often be missing an element like a light pass or a matte pass and it would have been too difficult to recreate the missing pass in CG so the entire shot would be replaced instead.

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#1224612
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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 MKV IS OUT NOW
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Of all restorations, I think Star Trek, The Next Generation has got to be, without a question, the best recompositing job.

They took the original 35mm elements which were originally composited in video and redid everything in high def and with modern techniques.

A shame that they were missing elements for certain shots and were obliged to turn to CG recreations, but I don’t think anyone can say they look WORSE than the original video masters.

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#1223757
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Mocata said:

oojason said:

TV’s Frink said:

DrDre said:

yotsuya said:

Well, I disagree entirely. First off, it is obvious we are supposed to side with Poe. Holdo is expecting Poe to follow orders. That he doesn’t is not surprising because she doesn’t share what she is doing. And ultimately it is Poe who turns Holdo’s cunning plan into a disaster. Poe sends Finn and Rose off to solve the problem his way. A daring venture full of risks with a possible payoff. But because they do not find the hacker that Maz recommends (probably because he can be trusted) and they end up with DJ and DJ learns of Holdo’s plan, when the mission goes sour he uses that to get himself out of trouble. As a result most of the resistance is destroyed, rather than losing the one ship and hiding out on Crait until someone came to get them. Poe is a hotshot pilot but that is not what makes a leader. Knowing when to not be the hotshot and play it safe is the lesson he needed and he got it the hard way. However the movie makes it very clear that if he hadn’t gone ahead and destroyed the dreadnaught at the beginning, it would have wiped them out later. So his first reckless act that he got demoted for turned out to be the right thing to do at the time, but after the fallout, Poe is making wiser decisions. Not bad for a character Abrams almost killed off.

That story line is full of old war movie tropes. How Holdo treats Poe, how Poe reacts, and how he learns. That may not be your real world experience, but it is many people’s. And Holdo doesn’t seem like she is much of a people person. One of those who rose to command through brilliant tactics. She obviously is a friend of Leia’s. So her tough treatment of Poe makes a lot of sense. Military methods of leadership are not the same as private sector methods. The military needs people who will follow orders without question plus brilliant strategists. So using civilian leadership techniques to critique a military interaction doesn’t work well. The same rules don’t apply. There is a reason why the traditional drill sergeant is tough and gruff. Dressing down a subordinate in a military setting isn’t about their well being, it is about their discipline and willingness to follow orders. In a military setting you need someone who will not panic and will act on their training no matter the price. In a civilian setting an employee’s life is rarely on the line and you rarely need blind obedience. So it is comparing apples to oranges.

So both on the writing side and on the realism side, this part of the story reflects some brilliant writing. I find the entire movie to be brilliant. I love it more the more I watch it. And it is definitely very Star Wars. War movies and samurai movies were very much a part of the original trilogy and Rian Johnson captured that part far better than Abrams did in TFA. I watched Twelve O’Clock High and Three Outlaw Samurai after I heard they, plus To Catch A Thief, were classics Rian Johnson was watching to prepare for this movie. Three brilliant films that definitely had an influence.

Maybe you should read the link I posted from someone with actual military experience

Still leaning on this I see.

C’mon Frink, no-one in the military has ever got it wrong! We should read everything anyone who has fought says - or else we may not think as others think we should, as our lives may depend on it some day, otherwise an ER tv doctor will not save us - or something…

How does SW or war movie logic equate to anything in the real world though? These are broad character archetypes and well worn arcs. This is a series where people are promoted to Commander and even General whenever anything vaguely heroic happens.

This^^

You’re applying real world logic to a movie about SPACE WIZARDS.

I mean, where are the military articles about Emperor Ming’s or Colonel Miles’ tactical abilities?

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#1222961
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1997 Star Wars Special Edition 35mm Project
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DrDre said:

I actually have another question. Does the process of going from the negative to a release print distort the image in any way? In other words is it technically possible to retrieve a more or less exact copy of the original interpositive by averaging and then deblurring an infinite number of release prints? In general I’m wondering what the limitations are of doing a restoration from a set of release prints, rather than using an interpositive, or the original negative.

Interpositives and prints are made with contact printing. That is to say, they sandwich the two pieces of film together and shine a light on it. Because there’s no lens, there’s no risk of light refraction.

But I could be wrong…

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#1222624
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I also feel like I am done and burned out discussing The Last Jedi.

It’s just a goddamn movie for cryin’ out loud. That’s all it is.

Since 1997, Star Wars has managed to bring out the absolute worst in people. When you read about Ahmed Best contemplating suicide because he played an alien in a science fiction movie, you have to wonder if we need to chill out a bit.

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#1222622
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DrDre said:

Prejudice exists on both sides. A critic of the Admiral Holdo character uses feminist in the title of an article, therefore it must be toxic, misogynist, and it thus deserves to be dismissed off-hand, even if the author has first hand experience of real suffering, and sacrifice in the name of something greater than himself. In the author’s words:

“I don’t need Vice Admiral Holdo to show me that women can be real leaders. I already have Leigh Ann Hester, who fought through an insurgent ambush in Iraq. I have Captain Jennifer Moreno, an army nurse killed during a patrol in Afghanistan. I have Ann Carrizales, a police officer who was shot in the face but still helped chase down her attackers. I have my mother, who managed to finish her degree while working full time and raising five children. I have the stories, videos and photos of the brave Kurdish and Yezidi women fighting ISIS.”

It’s not just in the title, Dre. To quote his article:

“As it turns out, Star Wars: The Last Jedi wasn’t just a science fiction movie. In reality, it was a lesson about sexism that we men badly needed. Or something.”

And then, “So please, Hollywood. I’ve been watching Star Wars for forty years. Don’t ruin it, don’t put your own personal crusades into it. Don’t spoon feed me your ideology. Just make a good movie.”

He makes some good points here and there but it’s unfortunate that people have to get caught up in this whole “agenda” they think they’re being attacked with.

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#1222567
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Star Wars VistaVision “8-Perf X-Wing Wedges” Preservation
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Williarob said:

Mavimao said:

Holy carp! Nice find! I’m definitely paying attention to this thread!

A bit funny to call VistaVision an ‘old format’ when it’s just the 35mm still camera format.

Yeah you can just play this back with (or get it scanned on) regular 35mm film equipment - Sure the picture will be sideways, but rotating each frame 90 degrees digitally isn’t a lot of work. If you were trying to record as 8 perf vistavision, then you would need special equipment.

I guess Lucasfilm has digital backups of all this stuff if they’re letting it go on eBay? They went to a lot of trouble to track it all down when they restored the film in 1997. I can’t help wondering if they even know these are being sold…

Great find though and thanks for sharing.

Well, you’d need to rotate 90 degrees AND stitch two frames together in post if you were going to use a normal Academy aperture. VistaVision is 8perfs horizontal and Academy is 4 perfs vertical.

You could use a still frame negative scanner if you didn’t have the budget for a professional video scan.

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#1222351
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

Mavimao said:

DominicCobb said:

Mavimao said:

Here’s an excellent article on The Last Jedi and why it has elicited such a backlash from fans.

http://observer.com/2018/07/film-crit-hulk-the-beautiful-ugly-and-possessive-hearts-of-star-wars/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Hmm

DominicCobb said:

Insightful look on the film and its response (I guess I should say I don’t agree with everything said, but it’s worth reading):

http://observer.com/2018/07/film-crit-hulk-the-beautiful-ugly-and-possessive-hearts-of-star-wars/

Sorry! I hadn’t seen your post!

Ha, no worries. Just funny that it wasn’t til you posted that people noticed. I think some people have me on “ignore” (and perhaps justifiably so).

i disagree with pretty much everything you have said about everything since your first post in the thread you first posted in.

Oh really? Are you sure you don’t want to find working download links for Hal9000’s first ROTS edit from 10 years ago where he only changed like three things about it?

Man this makes me wonder what my first post was…

Edit: 10th of June 2005. I talked about how much detail was to be found on the earth-shattering Xo project!

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#1222331
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

Mavimao said:

Here’s an excellent article on The Last Jedi and why it has elicited such a backlash from fans.

http://observer.com/2018/07/film-crit-hulk-the-beautiful-ugly-and-possessive-hearts-of-star-wars/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Hmm

DominicCobb said:

Insightful look on the film and its response (I guess I should say I don’t agree with everything said, but it’s worth reading):

http://observer.com/2018/07/film-crit-hulk-the-beautiful-ugly-and-possessive-hearts-of-star-wars/

Sorry! I hadn’t seen your post!

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#1222142
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Culture, politics, and diversity in Star Wars
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A good analogy would be the word ‘negro’. As someone who has taught To Kill a Mockingbird’, I do have to teach my students that negro was an acceptable term for a black person even up until the 70s.

Martin Luther King used it, politicians used it.

But… it’s not used anymore. Why? It became offensive. Would you call black people “Negros” or “Colored folk” today? Of course not! Words and expressions change and evolve.

The term “Mary Sue” is not quite as derogative as “negro” but it’s becoming weaponized by a fringe group of men who feel that there’s is some secret feminine agenda out to get them.

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#1221267
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Culture, politics, and diversity in Star Wars
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Collipso said:

TV’s Frink said:

For someone who claims to want the conversation elevated, you sure like to use terms that do the opposite.

the point is that the term is absolutely inoffensive. it’s not at all pejorative towards women or anything like that. it’s just a descriptive term for “not justified overpoweredness in a character”. it just so happens that the people who created the term were at the time talking about a character, mary sue, o that’s why it was named after her. and mary sue could very well have been a guy, but she was a girl. it doesn’t make the conversation lower or anything like that at all.

Here’s the problem: in the new Solo film, Han does everything practically right and pulls off unparalleled feats of piloting and wins game after game of Sabacc (and only loses in the face of cheating). I have not heard one person call him a Gary Stu.

No one calls James Bond a Gary Stu.

No one calls Percy Jackson a Gary Stu.

No one calls Rambo a Gary Stu.

But Rey! God knows how many threads and youtube videos on the internet are dedicated to debating this question.

It’s not about the term per se, but the unbalanced way this term applies itself to woman in an almost fanatical manner, whereas men characters are reverred for being top dog, and outsmarting everyone else and getting the girl.

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#1219857
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DESPECIALIZED EDITION <em>QUALITY CONTROL</em> THREAD - REPORT ISSUES HERE
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doubleofive said:

Mavimao said:

doubleofive said:

The Silver Screen Edition, the SE is what’s bad.

Chewielewis say: “On the SE and the GOUT it’s a clean cut”. And in his picture example, it’s written: Special Edition Team Blue.

I missed that part. That makes no sense, since I can’t beliece any film damage would have happened between the creation of the SE and the DVD version 7 years later.

I know! That’s why this is so strange.