Master Sifo-Dyas

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Post: #245010
Topic: German ANH DVD OOT audio track: Entire part of dialogue missing in Chapter 13
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/245010/action/topic#245010
Time: 16-Sep-2006 7:54 PM

Originally posted by: Mielr
Are the lines there in English? You obviously speak English, so isn't it better to hear the movies with the actors' real voices? Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Yeah, I personally don't like foreign language dubs myself. Makes me feel like I'm missing something.

Well, it is probably difficult to explain as you never grew up with dubbed movies. Here in germany the whole dubbing ordeal not only represents a huge regional industry - it has also become a kind of traditional thing. To be honest I am not sure how to convey to you what the german versions of these films mean to me - it is how I first saw them as a kid and even though I have also fallen in love with the original english dub, I still want to have the german version available as well. It's not merely a matter of what I got used to as a child - In my opinion, dubbing StarWars and getting it "right" is extremely difficult and it was so beautifully done back in the days of the original trilogy.

The special editions disrupted the magical balance of the original dubs, as the new lines for Darth Vader were not spoken by the same actor (who was still alive at that time), with the 2004 editions representing the most horrible experience with "the emperor's phone call" from ESB.

If you guys are interested I will open a seperate Thread with a few audio examples of the german voices, so you can decide for yourself (eventhough I am aware that it's difficult to judge the translations without knowing german - but at least you can judge the mood/acting and the sound of the voices).

Post: #244993
Topic: Help Wanted: Despaired fan of the german OOT seeks help on where to find information on how to create a fan edit
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244993/action/topic#244993
Time: 16-Sep-2006 7:09 PM — Edited 30-Jun-2020 9:53 AM

As you can see in this thread - fans of the german version of the OOT version of ANH, are screwed quite a bit.

First of all I beg your pardon for not making a thorough search for a “beginners information thread” - I just didn’t have the nerve, as I’ve just found this flaw and had a bit of a hard landing from the simple-OOT-enjoyment-land back into LFL-inferior-quality-ripoff-land.

I already looked in the sticky thread for newcomers, but the links there are broken at the moment. If someone patient enough could give me a little nudge in the right direction and recommend me a few sites to start with when it comes down to gathering knowledge on how to modify a movie without loosing too much quality through recompression and the like and what kind of software and equipment are required - I’d be very happy.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Post: #244990
Topic: German ANH DVD OOT audio track: Entire part of dialogue missing in Chapter 13
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244990/action/topic#244990
Time: 16-Sep-2006 6:57 PM

Hehe, oh well. At least I was granted a few days of blessed ignorance were I didn't notice this and could just enjoy the original theatrical versions. So I'll revert back to watching ANH (or "Krieg der Sterne" as the movie was originally known in germany) on VHS again if I want to see it in german. Sigh.

Post: #244984
Topic: German ANH DVD OOT audio track: Entire part of dialogue missing in Chapter 13
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244984/action/topic#244984
Time: 16-Sep-2006 6:28 PM

Well, it seems like I have to eat my own words regarding to being able to "just watch the movie". I just noticed while trying to just do that, that in chapter 13 of ANH when Luke, Han & Chewie wait for the elevator to the detention area, the announcements in the background are missing - as well as the lines "Ich kann in diesem Helm überhaupt nichts sehen (I can't see a thing in this helmet)", "Das wird nicht funktionieren (This is not gonna work)", "Warum hast du das nicht gleich gesagt? (Why didn't you say so before?)" and "Ich habe es gesagt (I did say so before)".

Now I'll have to create my own fan edit that at least keeps these lines from the german audio dub intact - and I thought buying this release would spare me that work.

Post: #244605
Topic: Stormtrooper with 4 eyes ::( or Stormtrooper showing terrible IVTC/telecine artefacts
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244605/action/topic#244605
Time: 15-Sep-2006 9:31 AM

Well, I don't really care about these minor things - especially when they don't impact the performance when "just watching the film". Of course it's all part of the Lucasfilm money grabbing machine not to put any "unnecessary" effort into the release of the OUT (or GOUT if you please). It's a philosophy George Lucas adopted somewhere down the road of making his films.

When I went into the store and bought these babies, I knew these would be like a "Laserdisc copied to a DVD" - I knew what I would get.

The 2004 editions on the other hand - represent an inferior product that was rushed out the door (heck even the original film material that was still in the process of being cleaned up was taken away from lowry before he could even finish the job). If you want to be mad at something about this release, then please be mad about the fact that you're forced to buy a product along the way that was created with todays technology and still looks like a heap of crap by todays quality standards (color balancing, mouse pointers moving through the picture, incomplete foley track in ANH, messed up musical score, lollipop uni-colored lightsabers, etc.).

Sadly, it really seems some people have lost the ability to just sit down and "just watch the film". Just try to be glad that none of the people who commited the crime of "improving the presentation quality" of the 2004 editions, tried to do the same with the OUT. I for one am glad they didn't meddle with it at all.

Post: #244496
Topic: Limited Edition Packaging Scans
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244496/action/topic#244496
Time: 14-Sep-2006 11:29 PM

Actually the only thing that really sticks out like a sore thumb on these new photoshop assemblies of the classic posters, ist that dumb prequel version of the Vader costume on them. If they actually had used the original Vader from the movies these cover arts were designed for, they wouldn't be bad at all (especially when compared to the horrid ones from the 2004 release).

Post: #244485
Topic: And on the 8th day, God created socks that wont stay up, mosquitos, Taco Bell, and Letterboxed DVD's. It was not good.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244485/action/topic#244485
Time: 14-Sep-2006 11:11 PM

Originally posted by: Obiwampa
By the way, Star Wars was cool at one time.

Hey, it still is! It's Lucasfilm, ILM, Skywalker Sound and THX that have ceased to be cool.

Post: #244429
Topic: Amazon Top 100 Ratings for the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244429/action/topic#244429
Time: 14-Sep-2006 7:58 PM

Edit: Added the links to my original post.

Post: #244411
Topic: Amazon Top 100 Ratings for the OOT DVDs
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/244411/action/topic#244411
Time: 14-Sep-2006 7:23 PM

Back when I joined this site, I never thought I'd live to witness the day we'd see OOT DVD sets climb into the Top 10 rankings of amazon's Top 100 DVD sales. Obviously more than "us few" wanted these. Pretty cool, huh?

Amazon US Rankings
Amazon Germany Rankings
Amazon UK Rankings

Edit: Provided the links above

Post: #233211
Topic: Lucas saved face as director?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/233211/action/topic#233211
Time: 8-Aug-2006 8:22 AM

I must honestly say, I didn't have that much of a problem with the first two prequel movies - in fact I liked them a lot. I always thought: "Give it time, I've seen the making of thingies on sw.com it will all play out within the third movie - it all will make sense and it'll be great." ...boy was I wrong.

Post: #230166
Topic: More changes ?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230166/action/topic#230166
Time: 28-Jul-2006 11:36 AM

I am pretty sure that we will see changes to all six movies. Since George Lucas now has time to step back to get the whole picture and adjust it were he sees fit. At one point in time though, he will have to nail it down and say "Ok, this is how I want the saga to be remembered."

In my opinion, he should publish a "StarWars construction kit" containing all source material for all the starwars films in a ready to be implemented state - so everyone can tinker around with it like he does - at least we'd all get a chance to have our way and build our favourite version of the films.

Post: #230159
Topic: Darth Vader sessions
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/230159/action/topic#230159
Time: 28-Jul-2006 10:36 AM

We've got that on page two of this forum already. It was posted quite some time ago. Lo and behold: none beat you to it.

Thanks for sharing anyways, it's really one of the funniest StarWars joke clips I've seen in a while. : )

Post: #229928
Topic: Confession: My favorite movie is ROTS
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229928/action/topic#229928
Time: 27-Jul-2006 5:46 PM

Post: #225556
Topic: World Cup 2006
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/225556/action/topic#225556
Time: 10-Jul-2006 10:32 PM

http://www.dustglove.com/images/zidane/e4b3e85c19b55b41b856a2644f63590f.gif

Post: #216083
Topic: Upcoming release German covers!
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/216083/action/topic#216083
Time: 4-Jun-2006 2:23 PM

Post: #211019
Topic: New DVDs NOT 16x9
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211019/action/topic#211019
Time: 18-May-2006 12:28 PM

Post: #210945
Topic: What do you look like?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210945/action/topic#210945
Time: 18-May-2006 7:07 AM

http://home.arcor.de/r.arendt/images/msd.jpg

Post: #210942
Topic: Why all the negative coments about george lucas?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210942/action/topic#210942
Time: 18-May-2006 6:27 AM

I don't have a problem with criticism towards George Lucas - I don't hate him, but I certainly don't feel the urge to lick his boots. The reason there's an OOT release on DVD is that influential people at LFL seem to have started an ongoing argument about the commercial potential of releasing it (along with specific merchandise like "han shot first" t-shirts) and Mr. Lucas merely agreed in hope that it is commercially unsuccessful to quiet his critics within LFL by proving them wrong. To quote my favourite prequel character: "Greed, can be a powerful ally."

If he would have done this, because he finally realized his cultural responsibility as an artist, he would have reearned my respect.

Post: #210765
Topic: Make your voices heard! (again) - re the 2006 GOUT DVD being in letterbox format
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210765/action/topic#210765
Time: 17-May-2006 10:50 PM

Jim Ward fills both positions. He became president of Lucasarts a while ago, while keeping his position as head of marketing at Lucasfilm.

Post: #210277
Topic: Do you ever wish that there you had never heard of Star Wars?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210277/action/topic#210277
Time: 16-May-2006 10:57 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Post: #203762
Topic: no one posts here any more :(
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/203762/action/topic#203762
Time: 24-Apr-2006 3:59 AM

I'm still meddling around with my prequel rewrite project and a few personal troubles in real-life (tm). Usually if I find something postworthy I'll post it, so don't give up hope.

Post: #190065
Topic: Lucas: Big pics are doomed
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/190065/action/topic#190065
Time: 6-Mar-2006 10:57 AM

BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — Leave it to "Star Wars" creator George Lucas to pronounce the death of the Hollywood blockbuster.

"The market forces that exist today make it unrealistic to spend $200 million on a movie," said Lucas, a near-billionaire from his feverishly franchised outer-space epics. "Those movies can't make their money back anymore. Look at what happened with 'King Kong.'" The portly Lucas, whose "Star Wars" sequel was nominated for the Oscar in makeup, was clearly in Yoda mode at Saturday's Weinstein Co. party — Harvey Weinstein's first Oscar bash since he abandoned Miramax to Disney last year. "I think it's great that the major Oscar nominations have gone to independent films," Lucas told me, adding that it's no accident that the "small movies" outclassed the spectaculars in this year's Academy Awards. "Is that good for the business? No — it's bad for the business. But moviemaking isn't about business. It's about art!"

Was that a smirk? "In the future, almost everything that gets shown in theaters will be indie movies," Lucas declared. "I predict that by 2025 the average movie will cost only $15 million." [Source: nydailynews.com]

Post: #184000
Topic: adamwankenobi i miss u
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/184000/action/topic#184000
Time: 20-Feb-2006 7:15 AM

@battlewars: I would appreciate if you'd use the private message function for these kind of things. Missing a member of this forum hardly qualifies as "general star wars" discussion.

Post: #183998
Topic: adamwankenobi i miss u
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/183998/action/topic#183998
Time: 20-Feb-2006 6:48 AM

Originally posted by: Jambe Davdar
It's been fun while it lasted. But I now feel that I must leave this site. Building Empire and Returning to Jedi will not be distributed to anyone.

Bye!

Uhh... I find it a bit disturbing that you actually let your personal descisions be influenced by things like this thread. Well better a lame excuse than no excuse at all, right?

Post: #183657
Topic: Star Wars Encyclopedia.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/183657/action/topic#183657
Time: 19-Feb-2006 1:25 PM

Lucas had announced plans for a 6 dvd set a long time ago. The term "archival edition" is also something he brought up in the same article. As far as I remember it was planned to have several incomplete (yes, ironic) versions of the films - one without music, one with only the music, one without visual fx etc. - the idea was obviously to show how important each element of a film is. However that Lucas statement is very old by now and since his plans seem to change by the minute, you'll never know what's going to happen next.

And hey kev, I would really appreciate if you'd stop the unprovoked flamage - it really gets on my nerves.