I had a great idea! Since you used Bill Murray’s SNL Star Wars cover for your edits, why not use Oscar Isaac’s cover of the same song for VII, VIII, and IX? Here’s his cover.
https://twitter.com/tolkienianjedi/status/979404212126846976?lang=en
You’re kidding.
What about Donald Glover? Granted, I too also found Solo to be quite forgettable, but Ehrenreich and Glover were both very good as Han and Lando.
No way. JJ is an OT fanboy. He’s gonna use Lando as much as possible, as well as force ghost Yoda and Luke. But not Hayden (which would be a great way to at least create somewhat of a unification between George’s saga and the Disney saga).
Just because J.J. Abrams is not a fan of the prequels, it doesn’t mean that he can’t use elements from them in a good way. There were some bad elements about the prequels, but there were also some good elements. It’s mainly the way the films turned out in the end which was disappointing. I don’t blame Hayden Christensen for his poor performance, I mainly lay the blame on George Lucas. He was the director, and the director is supposed to get the best performance out of their actors (something that George has struggled with when he is directing a film). J.J. Abrams, and yes, even Rian Johnson, are able to do that job well.
I hope the movie doesn’t end with a fight between Rey and Kylo. Rey has already beaten Kylo twice, how is there supposed to be any drama?
There can still be plenty of drama between the two of them. Especially based on where Ben will go. Not to mention, there’s also the romantic and sexual tension still occurring between the two of them.
For me, Adam Driver has some of the best acting moments in the entirety of Star Wars. Particularly his quieter, more intimate scenes.
I’m thinking the interrogation of Rey in TFA and just after they fight the red guards in TLJ. There’s a strange, guarded vulnerability that he captures so well.
I agree with you!
Cool thread, nl0428 😃
Thanks for the feedback, oojason!
This is a good idea for a thread! I’m gonna try to pick more underrated choices from each trilogy.
For the Prequels, I would definitely have to say Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious. He basically plays two different characters, and he can easily go from kind/friendly, manipulative, to evil incarnate. He’s fun to watch, and his best scene probably has to be the Opera Scene in ROTS.
For the Original Trilogy, I have to agree with Nev and suggest Frank Oz as Yoda. I think the act of performing Yoda was a real pain for Oz, having to not really see who he was performing with, and being cramped underneath the hot stage with his hand up a puppet. But he made Yoda feel real, and made you feel the emotions that Yoda felt, whether it be curiosity, hesitation, disappointment, wisdom, etc.
For the Sequels, it is hard to choose because I think it has some of the best performances in the franchise, but for the amount of pressure I can only imagine he had to have been under, I think Mark Hamill gave his best performance as Luke Skywalker ever, even though he had only acted on-camera occasionally for the past several years. And considering how Hamill apparently didn’t agree with the choices made for his character in the film, he proved he could give the performance regardless of his own opinions, and he really get that pain and emotion across on screen.
To me, Mark Hamill gave his best performance as Luke in The Last Jedi. Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver also deserve a lot of praise with how intriguing and emotional they were able to play the characters of Rey and Kylo Ren.
Reading The Making of The Empire Strikes Back, it becomes clear how much the very soul of Star Wars hinged on making the audience believe in the reality of a talking frog. That this worked at all is a miracle, and a lot of it has to do with the talents of Frank Oz.
If the onscreen chemistry between the puppet and Mark Hamill had not worked, the movie would have failed.
Alec Guinness in ANH.
Guinness actually received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars. It’s great to see you here, Hal! Your Star Wars edits are amazing, as well as your method of approaching the task to edit the films too.
Who do you think gave the best performance as their characters in the movies? Whether it be Harrison Ford as Han Solo, Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan Kenobi, or even Adam Driver as Kylo Ren, post your thoughts in the thread of who you thought gave the best performance in the franchise. Voiceover roles could also be considered, such as James Arnold Taylor as Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Here is my ranking based only on the films’ scores.
If one of us were to create an HD restoration of The Phantom Edit and Attack of the Phantom by Mike J. Nichols, what video source would be used? The Blu-ray, or an HDTV broadcast?
Just wanted to share some predictions I have for Episode IX. I know many others have shared the same/similar ideas already.
Ben Solo will be redeemed, and him and Rey will end up in a relationship, or at the very least a heavily implied relationship.
There will be some kind of emphasis on how Rey will make sure the new Jedi will be different than the old. We will see all of this talk of balance in action.
Finn will play a crucial part in liberating the First Order’s Stormtrooper army, and in a larger view be instrumental in the reunification of the First Order and the Resistance into a new government, which are technically both descended from the Old Republic.
Ben Solo will have some kind of reunion with Leia, even if it is just at the end of the movie.
I know these are pretty general predictions, so I’ll make one bold one.
I have a strong feeling that the title of the film will be Star Wars: Balance of the Force.
I actually agree with you. I don’t know what the title will be, but I think you’re on point. But then again, anything is possible.
Did you ever end up releasing it?
I am a private fan editor, but if you’re interested in viewing it, you can PM me. It is based upon the story direction of Kylo Ren and Rey having a romantic relationship. Yes, I do believe that is occurring in the sequel trilogy.
I think Lucas lost momentum by waiting so long between trilogies. But to be honest, I think the only way any more movies were going to happen was if Lucas removed himself. I think if he would have tried to the the sequels that he would have ended up with the same problem as the prequels - no one wanted to direct them with him staring over their shoulder. I think we will find that the sequels are really his story with some changes to make them work better. There are hints at that already. They may have moved as far from George’s treatments as some of his films did from treatment to film.
I think they should make some movies, take a break, make some more, take a break. I don’t think they gave Solo enough time. They should have stuck with the Christmas releases.
Trilogies make nice longer stories in digestable installments. Lots of franchises use trilogies. But the one off stories are awesome as well.
I believe Dave Filoni had some trouble making The Clone Wars when it first debuted, due To George Lucas interfering. The Clone Wars movie that came out in theaters is just four episodes of the show mashed together, because they were being rushed by George because he wanted a movie in theaters.
As for the new era of Star Wars, I think that Lucasfilm should take at least a nice five year break after Episode IX before doing ANY new movies (both saga and spin-off films).
Honestly, I would prefer they lay off the Skywalker saga for a long while. Perhaps they could pick it up again someday, with something like a 100 year timegap.
Sounds perfect. I can’t imagine that time gap would match the real one though. I think 50 would be decent compromise, but I don’t think the corporate machine could wait that long.
I wouldn’t call it the “Skywalker saga.” It may have focus on the Skywalker family, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s about them. The originals were its own thing, the prequels told the backstory of the characters from the classic trilogy, and the sequels are about new characters, while the original characters still have a major role in the films, since we want to see where they are, not to mention them being galactic heroes. If Lucasfilm decides to make Episodes X, XI and XII, I think it would be a nice Segway from Episode IX to the fourth trilogy by having Rey and Ben lead off with their potential kids. Yes, I do think Kylo Ren and Rey will, in a way, end up together. Those are just my thoughts.
LordZerome1080 said:
I say that they should reveal the sequels and anything else Disney to be a nightmare Luke had after ROTJ
Look, I’m not gonna act like the Sequels have been the greatest addition to the mythos, but by God Lucasfilm needs stand by its decisions. Remember the Paradigm Daleks?
Also, Rogue One was awesome.
I say that they should reveal the sequels and anything else Disney to be a nightmare Luke had after ROTJ
I love the sequel trilogy. Why is there so much hate for it!? Did everyone forget about the prequels!?
Please get off Ryan’s cock. TLJ sucks ass!! At least the prequels had some watchability
Be nice, or be dog food.
Thank you very much for standing up for me, but I think it is best that you do not give any toxic bullies in the fanbase any notification and recognition by not responding to them. You are just giving them justification by doing so. I just wish the toxicity in the Star Wars fanbase will stop. It’s awful.
The fact is this is a small community, so you can’t just walk away from bullies and expect to never see them again.
I agree with you. When Hayden Christensen stood up for Kelly Marie Tran after being harassed online, he told her:
“I don’t know if I have any advice for that, but just…you know, don’t take it too seriously, because…unfortunately, [bullies] are the ones that make the most noise. But the majority of people don’t feel that way, so, keep that in mind.”
I have the edit. If you PM me, I can send you the link.
I made a fan edit of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, mashed together that focused solely on Rey and Kylo Ren a while ago.
Frankly that’s not surprising. EA’s handling of the license has been absolutely terrible. Their exclusivity deal should be pulled.
I agree! Not to go off this discussion thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised if their announced game, Jedi Fallen Order, gets cancelled like Visceral’s game due to, “not selling well because it is a single player campaign with no multiplayer.” Greedy behavior, Electronic Arts!
I wouldn’t worry about it. There’s going to be a huge presence there for IX. All the usual suspects will be in attendance, JJ, the cast, Kennedy. I doubt you’ll even hear a single “Boo!” from the crowd.
You’re right. The fans who don’t like the new movies probably won’t go. But anything is possible. I know that EA got booed last year at the Battlefront II panel, but then again, tons of us, including me, were not fans of EA’s Battlefront reboot.
What did everyone here think of the game adaptation of Revenge of the Sith? I personally wasn’t a fan of the PS2/Xbox version. I thought it was very repetitive in its gameplay, and I felt that it didn’t offer a whole lot to come back playing. The adaptation of the movie has many deviations. Some of the deviations are cool, and some of them were weird. Especially that Padmé doesn’t make a single appearance in the whole game! I actually got a bit of a kick out of the GBA/DS version, though. What did you all think of this game adaptation?
Very lazy money-grab game back in the day when they had to make every big movie into one. Zero value other than it had scenes from the movie before its premiere.
I thought Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side was portrayed even better in the game’s cutscenes than it was the the actual film. The alternate ending was also a nice edition.
^ I live in Chicago , are you saying Chicago fans are toxic and Florida fans are not ? not sure what point you are trying to make here …
No! Absolutely not! I’m talking about fans all around the world. Some of them are toxic, some of them are not. I am just saying that Star Wars Celebration in Florida last year was before The Last Jedi came out. There was a bit of toxicity growing in the fan base before Episode VIII came out, but as soon as the film came out, the whole fandom when down quickly. It’s hard for me to be a Star Wars fan (especially of The Last Jedi) without being bashed about my opinions. There is nothing wrong with Chicago. Chicago is just where the next Celebration will be held in April 2019. Fans from around the world attend Star Wars Celebration, as do fans who go to San Diego Comic-Con. I am not from either Orlando, Chicago, or San Diego, but I went to Celebration for my first time last year, and I loved it!
I am not planning on going to Star Wars Celebration mainly because of the toxic fanbase. I don’t want to go there to be bullied, whether it be verbally or physically.
Having attended near to half of them, I can assure you there’s no risk of that. The fans that attend are the kind that are there to celebrate the franchise in its entirety.
The toxic “fans” only exist online.
I have been to Star Wars Celebration in Florida last year. I loved it! I’m just talking about the one coming up in Chicago, now that The Last Jedi has come out.
The truth is is that the sequel trilogy, nor any of the Star Wars content put out by Disney started toxicity. It began with fanbase. The fanbase who bullied Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen, Ashley Eckstein, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran. It’s okay to not like the new movies, but there is no reason to bully and harass those who like the new content, as well as people involved in the creation of it. If you don’t like the new movies put out by Disney, then stop going to see them. Plain and simple. There is no reason to attack those with differing opinions. I’m sorry that anyone here is not a fan of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but I am. There is no reason to attack someone who likes something that you do not like. I am not planning on going to Star Wars Celebration mainly because of the toxic fanbase. I don’t want to go there to be bullied, whether it be verbally or physically. I am not a sports fan, but I don’t attack anyone who likes football, basketball, etc. By doing that, it makes yourself look like a hateful person that nobody wants to be around. That is something I or anyone else out there does not want to become.