Master Lawdog

RogueLeader said:

act on instinct said:

There’s really no winning with Star Wars in my opinion, it’s all so personal and perceptions change, and the next generation of fans will have a custom experience. Always in motion is the future.

I completely agree. Feels like they can’t please one group without upsetting another! But that’s why I’m trying to be optimistic about JJ’s apparent “F@#% it!” attitude while working on IX.

Best thing to do to get yourself excited for Episode Ix without anyone spoiling or ruining your enthusiasm would be to unsubscribe from this thread once December arrives.

I’m starting to think this thread has been derailed into the topic of the Special Edition changes.

I just thought of a great idea for a video. Once The Rise of Skywalker is released on home video, someone should make a fan made styled credits based off the credits to Avengers: Endgame, crediting everyone from all the Star Wars movies.

ChainsawAsh said:

Too many people would be pissed if it was Hayden (canonizing the 2004/2011 SE), and too many people would be pissed if it was an actor who looked like Sebastian Shaw (canonizing the 1983 TC/1997 SE/giving a middle finger to the PT).

It’s a no-win situation to use Anakin’s ghost.

How would you feel if they had Ewan McGregor in old makeup (to look like Alec Guinness) make a brief appearance as Obi-Wan’s Force spirit?

This image here looks very much like it’s teasing his redemption based on his look, the location and the way it is shot.

I still think it’s best that when the release date comes closer, we unsubscribe from this thread, and then come back after we see the film.

SilverWook said:

The old Jar Jar is a Sith Lord thing is no more crazy than anything else making the rounds at the moment. 😉

Regardless of what happens in Episode IX, fans will be happy or disappointed with anything in the film. I love the Sequel Trilogy, but I am getting tired of some fans spouting out hatred for the trilogy to either beat a dead horse, or to draw attention to themselves, not because they’re attacking something I love, all film is subjective, but it was really annoying the ever living crap out of me. The Internet was heavily polluted last year with negative videos on The Last Jedi.

The fact that fans are believing that time travel is a possibility in Episode IX is total lunacy to me. I could say that Jar Jar is in the movie, and some would think I may be right. As for Red Letter Media’s prediction video, I wouldn’t buy into it if I were any of you. Even though they break down movies in such a fan’s perspective with Mr. Plinkett, Red Letter Media likes to troll with fans in a fun manner that’s not disrespectful in any way. Their predictions about time travel in The Rise of Skywalker is a good example of this.

SilverWook said:

But what if they save Han? 😉

Fan service at its absolute worst.

OutboundFlight said:

What’s really interesting is with Gareth Edwards and Lord/Miller, Disney really went down their throats. They had numerous reshoots because they were disappointed with the director’s vision.

With J.J. it was less obvious, but they surrounded him with so much “protection”- teaming him up with Kasdan, and constantly mentioning how they were trying to return to the OT as a subtle jab at the PT’s wackiness.

But here comes Rian Johnson, and Disney absolutely loves him. All through the documentaries for TLJ Kennedy goes on and on about Rian is perfect for the job and his vision is perfect for Star Wars. It’s bittersweet knowing what’s going to happen. One thing we can all agree on is TLJ was the most divise of the Disney SW movies- so it is surprising for the one where they have Rian the most creative freedom to be the one it turns out was most deserving of reshoots (to play it safe).

I know we’ve heard they planned the trilogy out, but TFA and TLJ really don’t play well with each other. TLJ feels like it is making a statement, for better or worse, that the derivative elements of TFA need to go. Maybe on paper that sounded good but in practice it really feels like Rian is changing all of J.J.’s plan. Hence why 9 seems more like a one-off movie (bringing back Palpatine) rather than a conclusion to a trilogy.

I still believe VII and VIII play very well together. It feels like the same story, just two different visionary minds, but that feeling is still there, we’re just experiencing new tones and emotions with the characters and story.

DrDre said:

nl0428 said:

DrDre said:

SWOTFAN25 said:

Guys I’m so sick of all the hate. I love you guys here. Even the people who dislike the new films are for the most part civillized. But everywhere else I go I just encounter the hivemind. I just want to be excited for this thing, and I think the whole sequel trilogy has been butchered by the fans. Idk is anyone else just fed up with the all the internet bullshit?

I really want to get excited for episode IX too, but while the trailer got me pumped to a degree, the string of mediocre live action remakes, and the focus on nostalgia rather than fresh and original story telling dampens my excitement quite a bit. What’s everyone talking about in relation to episode IX? How a dead character is going to return, so more nostalgia. It’s not that I hate the new movies, and I think they’re all entertaining enough, and expect IX will be as well, but the fact that it’s a movie in my favourite franchise is not enough anymore. It’s too easy to blame the fans for all the negativity. There are certainly many bad elements in internet and fan culture, but while watching this drama unfold, I can’t help but feel a sense of dread with this enormous, and powerful media empire now having its fingers in most of our beloved properties, and franchises, trying to get its hands in our wallets month after month. There’s going to be more Star Wars movies, not because it makes narrative sense, but because it makes financial sense. The new movies need to be marketable, and recognizable, but need just enough new elements to keep people interested for the next one. I just can’t view these films in the same light anymore. The context of these films, and how they are made have changed, and I guess so have I. For every mediocre Star Wars film, remake, etc Disney churns out banking on our nostalgia, three or more original movies could have been made, perhaps the Star Wars of this generation, and that makes me sad. Billions of dollars are spent on both sides of the fence running in circles. It’s mind boggling if you really think about it. So, yeah there appears to be a lot of internet bullshit, but I see a lot of it as a symptom of a larger issue.

Honestly, that’s about Disney’s live-action remakes of their animated classics. I know that the reviews for their remake of The Lion King are coming out to be quite mixed, but save that for another topic/thread. This is about The Rise of Skywalker, which I can’t wait for. On top of all of that, I do have some thoughts on Galexy’s Edge which I may post in the thread for that at some point.

Actually it’s not imo. The ST thusfar has been a reimagining of the OT very much in the vein of Maleficent, or Alice in Wonderland. So, while it’s not a shot by shot remake like Lion King, I think it fits the nostalgia driven mold that Disney has created very well. Now that Palpatine appears to be back, it looks like in TROS we’re going to see the same evil defeated again in an Empire vs rebels scenario very similar to the OT with another fallen Jedi apprentice likely to redeem himself destroying old Palps. Now, I hope and expect there will be more new elements than in the previous two films, but it won’t alter the fact that the ST has thusfar followed a very similar trajectory as the OT, and thus my points stand.

We don’t necessarily know what will happen in The Rise of Skywalker. I am very excited to see it, and I do love the Sequel Trilogy. I loved The Force Awakens, and I thought The Last Jedi was fantastic. Star Wars has always been about parallels in its storytelling and how everything connects. It’s like what George Lucas said, “It’s like poetry, it rhymes.”

On a very quick side note about Disney’s live-action remakes, as much as I love Disney, I have gotten to the point where I want them to put an end and stop making remakes of their animated films.

DrDre said:

SWOTFAN25 said:

Guys I’m so sick of all the hate. I love you guys here. Even the people who dislike the new films are for the most part civillized. But everywhere else I go I just encounter the hivemind. I just want to be excited for this thing, and I think the whole sequel trilogy has been butchered by the fans. Idk is anyone else just fed up with the all the internet bullshit?

I really want to get excited for episode IX too, but while the trailer got me pumped to a degree, the string of mediocre live action remakes, and the focus on nostalgia rather than fresh and original story telling dampens my excitement quite a bit. What’s everyone talking about in relation to episode IX? How a dead character is going to return, so more nostalgia. It’s not that I hate the new movies, and I think they’re all entertaining enough, and expect IX will be as well, but the fact that it’s a movie in my favourite franchise is not enough anymore. It’s too easy to blame the fans for all the negativity. There are certainly many bad elements in internet and fan culture, but while watching this drama unfold, I can’t help but feel a sense of dread with this enormous, and powerful media empire now having its fingers in most of our beloved properties, and franchises, trying to get its hands in our wallets month after month. There’s going to be more Star Wars movies, not because it makes narrative sense, but because it makes financial sense. The new movies need to be marketable, and recognizable, but need just enough new elements to keep people interested for the next one. I just can’t view these films in the same light anymore. The context of these films, and how they are made have changed, and I guess so have I. For every mediocre Star Wars film, remake, etc Disney churns out banking on our nostalgia, three or more original movies could have been made, perhaps the Star Wars of this generation, and that makes me sad. Billions of dollars are spent on both sides of the fence running in circles. It’s mind boggling if you really think about it. So, yeah there appears to be a lot of internet bullshit, but I see a lot of it as a symptom of a larger issue.

Honestly, that’s about Disney’s live-action remakes of their animated classics. I know that the reviews for their remake of The Lion King are coming out to be quite mixed, but save that for another topic/thread. This is about The Rise of Skywalker, which I can’t wait for. On top of all of that, I do have some thoughts on Galexy’s Edge which I may post in the thread for that at some point.

Legacyofajedi said:
Stunning,I can see Reylo defeating the Palpatine

That’s what I think will probably happen.

SWOTFAN25 said:

Guys I’m so sick of all the hate. I love you guys here. Even the people who dislike the new films are for the most part civillized. But everywhere else I go I just encounter the hivemind. I just want to be excited for this thing, and I think the whole sequel trilogy has been butchered by the fans. Idk is anyone else just fed up with the all the internet bullshit?

I agree with you. In fact, I’m planning on unsubscribing from this thread when we get very close to the release of Episode IX to avoid both spoilers and hatred/complaining. I just want a fabulous experience with my favorite film franchise of all time.

dgraham414 said:

I remember Ben not being a Sith but I don’t remember anything that explicitly said the Sith were extinct. Maybe it’s a case of Ben wanting to use the name “Sith” to bring a Return of the Sith.

He said “The Sith, the Jedi, the Rebels, let it all die.” He doesn’t want anything to do with them. Palpatine was the last Sith Lord, considering that they have the Rule of Two. A Master and an Apprentice. Vader and Palpatine were the last. We’ll see what’ll happen in The Rise of Skywalker with good ol’ Sheev.

It’s hard to tell who the Sith troopers are taking orders from. It seems to make sense that they would be following Palpatine’s orders, but the marketing has shown them with Kylo Ren. This is also confusing because we know that Ben is not a Sith Lord, and he also wants to put the Sith in the past too.

Can I ask a question? How exactly would one like to view the previous versions of your edits?

Jar Jar Bricks said:

nl0428 said:

Octorox said:

Congrats on finishing V6! Looks promising, and I can’t wait to check it out.

Hal 9000 said:
*Reinstated the original ending to the packing scene

Oh no, please don’t tell me you reinstated the moment where Anakin stares lustfully at Padme and she tells him that he’s making her feel uncomfortable, to which he smiles(!) like an absolute creep. That’s easily one of my least favorite moments in the entire film. My reaction every time I see it is “get the hell out of there Padme”. Especially in the #MeToo era, this moment seems in poor taste, and I felt the way you had handled it previously was completely seamless.

I just saw V6, and he did add it back in.

Not entirely sure why it was, either. That moment is not only creepy but it also makes me cringe.

I agree.

Octorox said:

Congrats on finishing V6! Looks promising, and I can’t wait to check it out.

Hal 9000 said:
*Reinstated the original ending to the packing scene

Oh no, please don’t tell me you reinstated the moment where Anakin stares lustfully at Padme and she tells him that he’s making her feel uncomfortable, to which he smiles(!) like an absolute creep. That’s easily one of my least favorite moments in the entire film. My reaction every time I see it is “get the hell out of there Padme”. Especially in the #MeToo era, this moment seems in poor taste, and I felt the way you had handled it previously was completely seamless.

I just saw V6, and he did add it back in.

Hal 9000 said:

To be fair, poppasketti states that it was a temporary clip to test out how they might look in motion, and wouldn’t reflect a final result.

Personally I’d be all right with a second bandolier (which is still different from how it looks in Solo) and greyed (or otherwise recolored) fur. Maybe he’s… Crunchbrakka or something. Goes by Crunchy.

JEDIT: Of course, his military rank would be Captain.

He could be his father Itchy, if we want to mention that monstrosity again.

Hal 9000 said:

nl0428 said:

Here’s something small that can be done to help the edit feel like more like a feature film.

You shifted the Anakin’s “I’ve got a bad feeling about this” to before the beasts come out of their cells. It might be best to add some of the music and ambiance that plays when the beasts come out in the background for that shot.

Also, since you removed C-3PO and R2-D2 from the arena fight, it would be wise to add some Republic Gunship sounds in the background for the shot of Boba Fett holding his father’s head.

The reason I’m suggesting to add in these instances of background audio is because the transition for those two shots felt a bit abrupt in both the volume and atmosphere.

Indeed, another pass improved these two moments greatly. 😃

Thanks for taking my advice, Hal!

Have you thought about using Vader’s voice from the Blu-ray mix of A New Hope. They added the correct vocal effect on his voice in the DVD and Blu-ray versions.

I was curious if you were going to post a new version of the test of Anakin looking over the Jedi massacre. Is that going to be in V6, or is the most recent version that you posted going to be the one you’re using in the final edit?

Here’s something small that can be done to help the edit feel like more like a feature film.

You shifted the Anakin’s “I’ve got a bad feeling about this” to before the beasts come out of their cells. It might be best to add some of the music and ambiance that plays when the beasts come out in the background for that shot.

Also, since you removed C-3PO and R2-D2 from the arena fight, it would be wise to add some Republic Gunship sounds in the background for the shot of Boba Fett holding his father’s head.

The reason I’m suggesting to add in these instances of background audio is because the transition for those two shots felt a bit abrupt in both the volume and atmosphere.