Mango

The screenshots aren’t final. Still Tweaking.

Screenshots from version 3.

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Ugh. Version 2 Also has problems. Work On Version 3 is Underway now.

Here’s a clip from the project. Please note that the grain does not show up well on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1sbgAUyFyI

I’m working on the blu ray right now and I’ll hopefully have it available sometime tomorrow. The blu ray will include both a 35MM Recreation with added film grain as well as the raw color correction with no grain. Both versions have the original Disney Castle logo from back in the day. Again, a huge thanks to Swazzy for coming up with the project. In fact, I’m not counting this as the official restoration. He will hopefully release his version someday and I guarantee it will be worlds better than mine.

Upon reviewing version 1 on several different screens in my house, I have found numerous problems. The color doesn’t quite match the laserdisc or the trailers and I made it a little too dark. I am beginning work on version 2 right now, and the release is postponed.

Hopefully I’ll at least have an MOV done later today, and the blu ray will be made ASAP. Since it took a LONG time to redo those trailers, I’m not going to do them again with version 2, so the trailers won’t necessarily reflect how the release will look.

Again, huge thanks to Swazzy for his help and the initial idea.

Trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCekrv5U-Bk

Well, I already finished version 1, but I’ll keep that source in mind for version 2. I’m uploading a restoration of the teaser trailer right now.

Also, no need to feel lazy Swazzy. I wouldn’t have attempted a version of the project without you inspiring me. All credit goes to you for the idea, I just wanted to try it out. 😃

Here are some screenshots from my version:

2020 Update:

This project is almost ready. A blu-ray ISO is in the works. below you will find artwork, screenshots and a list of bonus features to be included on the blu-ray.

Bonus Features Will Include:
The Making Of Toy Story
Layout & Animation Featurettes
Sound Design
Trailers

Possessed said:

Mango said:

Hmm. Yet another Trump supporter banned from the site. I’m starting to notice a pattern here.

I don’t even see who is banned, much less a trump supporter, or a pattern? Who is banned?

I accidentaly reported this post. Please ignore that.

As I was saying,

I was referring to Jetrell Fo, who at the time that I made that post had just been banned for defending Trump. He had been on here since 2004 and he’s not the only one I’ve seen get banned on here. Cant remember the name, but someone was banned for disliking the idea of abortion and he was also a Trump supporter.

Also, ever since I made that post, nobody seems to care about the work I’ve done on here. Does my hard work count for anything, or should I just leave this site?

So I guess nobody wants it? Well, I’m paying to keep the file up, but if no one is interested, I might as well delete it…

Oldfan said:

So how will v3 differ from v2?

It will have a new color restoration, new bonus features and will come with a bonus DVD that includes the fullscreen version.

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFTS3l2QfgY

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXK2FXyuQs

Hmm. Yet another Trump supporter banned from the site. I’m starting to notice a pattern here.

Mango said:

Turisu said:

Ok. I can confirm that the UK BD framerate is 23.976fps. So if you ensure that your project is set to that framerate and you export at that framerate then there shouldn’t be any playback issues.

It’s sadly not possible to make a project at that framerate in final cut. The lowest it can do is 24fps, and I converted the m2ts you gave me into a format that Final cut could support, as m2ts files are unsupported. The source I used in Final Cut Pro was a 24fps mov with no quality loss, and I imported it into a 24fps project. For whatever reason, It lagged. The only speed it wouldn’t lag at was 60fps. Again, it is not adding interpolated frames unless I tell it to, so it’s even thought the project is at 60fps, the video runs at the proper frame rate. I think what we have is the best we’re gonna get. I might make a barebones Blu-ray later, and Encore will correct it to the proper framerate without any playback problems. This is the way it’s been for all my projects on here.

Turisu said:

Ok. I can confirm that the UK BD framerate is 23.976fps. So if you ensure that your project is set to that framerate and you export at that framerate then there shouldn’t be any playback issues.

The source I used in Final Cut Pro was 24fps, and I imported it into a 24fps project. For whatever reason, It lagged. The only speed it wouldn’t lag at was 60fps. Again, it is not adding interpolated frames unless I tell it to. I think what we have is the best we’re gonna get. I might make a barebones Blu-ray later, and Encore will correct it to the proper framerate without any playback problems. This is the way it’s been for all my projects on here.

Turisu said:

Thanks so much for this Mango and glad I could help. V2 is looking and sounding great.

If I may make an observation; as with V1, it’s still running at 60fps as opposed to the source (theatrical) framerate of 24fps meaning that the encoder has altered the source by adding duplicate frames. I can’t see any reason why this would be done deliberately so I’m guessing it’s an error in the encoding settings. Would it be a simple matter to re-encode with the original source framerate?

Well, I tried encoding at 24fps, but for some reason that caused it to drop frames and become choppy. I’ve had this problem with other projects in the past. It doesn’t add frames when I do this somehow, but it does keep it from becoming choppy. My guess is that Blu-ray rips of older movies especially are running at a high framerate to retain things like grain, where as the motion remains 24 fps. It’s something I’ve found with every project I do, and I don’t quite know the reason. I can tell you that it is non interpolated and doesn’t fill in frames unless I tell it to.

I don’t know, Final Cut Pro is weird. I could attempt a re encode, but it might cause some quality loss.

I want to go back into this project, but I recently learned about the blu-ray release in the UK last year. I don’t know how it looks, but it claims to be a new restoration. So, I’m going to order a copy of that, see how it looks and whether or not it has the mono audio track (I’ve heard whispers that it does.). If this release fixes the issues I had with the previous release, this project may be cancelled. Scream Factory also just announced a Steelbook Edition, but my guess is that its the Collectors Edition blu-ray repackaged.

V2 is available now. Contact me via PM for the link.

Huge thanks to Turisu for providing the UK BD source! 😃

Turisu said:

I’ve since learned that the 4K UHD has issues with macroblocking in fast moving scenes. Hence I’m putting forward (and offering) the UK 40th anniversary BD as the best available source.

If you’re willing to send rips of the UK blu-ray my way, I will attempt another restoration.

Look, I made this project because it interests me. I’m sorry I didn’t do it with the sources I was apparently supposed to use, I just used what was available to me. I’m not going to buy another copy of the movie just so this project can be completed by the standards that were apparently expected from me. If it truly is a “lost cause”, then I’m just done with it. If you guys really need it to be in 4K with lossless audio, you are free to try the project yourselves.

Oldfan said:

Correct. From what I’ve heard, the UK release from Second Sight has the original, untouched mono track. Plus the benefit of being lossless, unlike the DVD.

The original Dark Sky blu ray has it too. The one from around 2008. Perhaps I should’ve taken it from that. It’s too late to use it now because I don’t have the original project file and I idiotically forgot to save the settings I had. If I were to add it in, the video would suffer because it would be an export of an export. UGH. Sorry guys, guess I wasn’t thinking straight.

SpookyDollhouse said:

The newest UK edition has original mono audio; what we got in the states is a fold-down of the 5.1 remix. If you’d like I can rip that track for ya if you’d like that instead.

No thanks. The original pioneer DVD has the REAL original mono mix. The 40th Anniversary and UK bluray were ripped from the 35mm version which had edits to the audio as mentioned in the first post.

VERSION 4 IN PROGRESS.

Version 4 features a nearly shot by shot picture correction based on original trailers, tv spots, and promo photos, just like Version 3. After examing clips from “Terror In The Aisles” and thee original TV spots, it has been determined that the film originally had a reddish/pinkish tone.

A/V Source: UK 40th Anniversary Blu-ray
Donated by Turisu.

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