MalàStrana

I don’t consider Song of the South to be racist, just to be dumb and boring (but the animated sections are very good). Is Gone with the wind racist because there is a black maid ? Is Big hero 6 racist because the main character is a science genius and looks japanese ? Is Thor racist because a white god is portrayed by Idris Elba ? Well, I don’t know but I’ve never known Dumbo was considered racist (or partly racist) before reading it here. I also don’t like the concept of “racial caricatures”, because aren’t characters in movies archetypal representations ? It’s a very complex question…

Ok Density, thanks for the answer. I absolutely don’t agree with you though.

Doctor M said:
It’s only racist if you want to believe it was.

You’ve made the reply I had in mind, thanks !

Besides, the crows in Dumbo are awesome characters, easily the best of the movie, and they are the ones who give Dumbo the help he needs. So I really fail to understand how a highly positive representation of black people (along with the song genre they have created) would be offended to black people. As a kid I always thought “the crows are so cool and they believe in Dumbo”, so I would even dare to say they are anti-racist characters.

doubleKO said:

Season 3 is when it “grows the beard”. But IMO there’s just as many bad episodes in the last couple of seasons as there are in the first two.

That many bad episodes ? Not very “DS9 quality”… I’ll try to skip Troi-centric episodes at least.

Currently watching Star Trek TNG in glorious HD with enhanced SFX. I must confess I didn’t remember the first season to be that bad… when does it get good ? I hope it’s during season 2…

Both co-exist in the same canon (even if Lucas decanonized the first series for some reasons I still don’t understand), as I don’t remember huge continuity issues within a “total” CW narrative (the end of the Ahsoka story arc even explains Anakin deep mistrust of the Jedi Council when ROTS begins, so it’s quite important material if you want to keep the PT era in your head canon):

AOTC
CW- chapters 1 to 21
TCW- movie and tvseries in chronological order
CW- chapters 22 to 25
ROTS

The 2003-2005 series is better, more focused with needed elements to strengthen Anakin’s fall (and, as a bonus, you can assume when Luke and Leia are conceived). I consider this 2 hours show the “lost” movie of the PT (well, Prequel Tetralogy in my head canon); without it there is clearly something missing. It should have been a live movie and the PT should have been 4 or 5 movies to tell its complex story. So the “CW 2D movie” stands as a patch to fix a few narrative issues. The CGI version is too long and tends to be a “war porn” show, which is not very interesting. But there is something good in it from time to time (so far I’ve really enjoyed smudger9 movie versions of the show, especially the first two episodes).

Frank your Majesty said:

Where did you hear that?

It’s an assumption: http://bgr.com/2016/09/23/disney-star-wars-movie-release-schedule/

It’s not clear at this point whether a fourth Star Wars trilogy is in the works […] or whether Disney will focus on other characters from the saga.

So you’re right we don’t know yet if a fourth trilogy is planned, but it’s still a very high probability they’ll make it happen.

Bingowings said:
For me ROTJ is almost as screwy as the PT

Well, you’re not totally wrong about that. I don’t know Ady’s plans for ROTJ but I’ve recently made some changes to the audio track in order to remove the “cartonnish” stuff (Chewie’s tarzan scream - that’s way it’s more aligned with Hal’s Episode III -, and the funny sounds when Luke gets rid of the Speeder and when the Walker loses balance during the battle of Endor). I’ve used Q2’s hybrid version so there wasn’t any need to remove the burps because it was already taken care of. Does it improve the movie ? Not much, but it’s less dumb that way without making radical changes. Radical changes that seem impossible to implement (or you get a 90 minutes action movie as the main saga conclusion…).

By the way now that Disney is going to go as far as Episode XII, how to call the second sequel trilogy ? SST (love it, but not to be confused with StarShip Troopers), or could the new 6 films as a whole be called the sequel hexalogy, aka SH ? But it would make the first 6 films the Original Hexalogy, or OH (originalhexalogy.com ?).

TV’s Frink said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
Hey Mala, just curious, is 005’s dad a fascist Frinkette, or just a prick?

It depends: does he have a squirell face ?

Who are you asking?

What’s a squirell?

A squirell is a squirrel with 2 spelling mistakes. Both look like Daisy Ridley when she plays Rey.

Dek Rollins said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Dek Rollins said:

warbler*sigh*™

I’m just freaking tired of all the shitposting about Japanese animation. Is that okay with all of you?

Tyrphanax said:

I’m sure there are plenty of Japanese animators who don’t produce anime, and they’re probably fine pieces of animation.

Strikes me as a bit silly to assume that Japanese people can only create anime-style animation.

When I say that anime is bad, I’m directly insulting that one style of animation, not broadly insulting all animation or all Japanese people. That’s one style of animation being insulted.

This entire post is silly. Anime refers to Japanese animation. Not a style. And there are many different art styles that have been used in various anime by various artists; some Japanese comics and animated series have even changed art styles throughout their original run. So you actually can’t insult just one style of animation if you call it anime.

To say that anime is simply a style of animation would mean that Avatar: The Last Airbender is anime. It’s not, because it’s not Japanese.

By saying all anime sucks, you are condemning all Japanese animated media.

This is so silly. It’s like saying “Hip hop is not one genre of music, because there are different styles and sub-genres, instead, hip hop refers to all music made by blacks.”

Anime is not a genre. It’s a term used outside of Japan to specify animation from Japan. In Japan it just means animation. It doesn’t refer to any specific art style. And your hip hop comparison is even more silly than Tyrphanax’s post, which very well could’ve come out of a common misconception.

Brad Bird would agree with you: http://deneroff.com/blog/2012/06/12/brad-bird-animation-is-not-a-genre/

TV’s Frink said:
Hey Mala, just curious, is 005’s dad a fascist Frinkette, or just a prick?

It depends: does he have a squirell face ?

TV’s Frink said:
Thank you for the hearty laugh to start my day.

I certainly hope so dude, I certainly do. You’re my kind of scum, fearless and inventive 😃

Wasn’t this thread about japanese animated movies/tvseries/mini series ? Not a great surprise that Frink is an asshole (the kind I admit I have never seen elsewhere, it’s like he’s been raised to be an internet asshole) but there are other people on his side here who usually don’t share his agressive, hatred and fascist behavior. You don’t need to follow his steps you know; within a few years his little Frinkettes will replace him, hence the job is already taken dudes, so let it go… let it go… (Frink never bothered me anyway).

Yep, anyway…

So, on the rail again: I watched The boy and the beast a few weeks ago. Mamoru Hosoda is a fine director and he knows who to work with (design, animation, music, it’s always very good) but this time it felt a little bit flat with a very curious narative that kinda changes its topic for the third act. The issue is that the emotional climax already happened at the end of act II and the following felt more like an extension rather than a proper resolution. It’s nevertheless a good movie but it really seems that Hosoda has already met his own limits since its very first “real” film The Girl Who Leapt Through Time. A good director who delivers good movies, but he’ll never be as good as Satoshi Kon others. I still hope he will prove me wrong.

TFA is a piece of shit movie that only little girls who are raised by a prick would love while I know many anime that are masterpieces. It also works that way.

Dave Filoni is working on the next show, so Rebels is probably not going to last more than 3 seasons (or maybe a few more set between ANH and TESB ?). With Rogue One coming the ANH “direct prequel” era has enough material, could be fun to explore other eras, such as after ROTJ.

Should the prequels and TFA be considered canon?

Yes.
And CW… and TCW… and Rebels… and Rogue One… and Episodes VIII-IX-X-XI-XII-…-XXX (starring Vin Diesel I hope)… but you’re not obliged to watch everything, especially what you don’t like.

Jeebus said:
Bendu Ballet takes the holocron and we’re back to the status quo.

Yep, I don’t like the holocron idea (some kind of of “how to become an evil Sith” crystal audio book ? Mwé…) but the show does not seem to want to make something out of it. It’s one huge step forward (season 2 finale) and one (almost equally) huge step backward (season 3 opening). The season 2 opening was so much stronger to start a season. Even Thrawn is not properly introduced here; there is nothing about him (his behavior, not his look) which is new among the other imperials. Curiously, the Lando/Jar Jar mixed character Hondo is not annoying in this episode.

Now, the next episode title is “The Holocrons of Fate”, so I guess this story arc might have a proper ending (or another disappointment).

As usual you’re trying so much to be the smart ass around that you don’t understand anything. Not a great surprise though.

Thanks, highly interesting to see the color differences in motion. Harmy’s regraded is very good. But there is something weird: the blue tint appears on close-ups of the 2011SE and on wide shots of Harmy’s, while the “white Hoth” is on wide shots of 2011SE and on close-ups of Harmy’s. Well, at least this more or less is what I see on the video…

I’ll sure check your edit. I like this movie but things can indeed be improved by cutting down some filler scenes.

Not very good the season 3 overture. The Sith holocron ends up being a bad idea and Ezra - very “Anakin oriented” here - is still a weak lead for the show. There is some novelty with the Force wielder character but it’s not enough; I really hope they’ll feed this subplot more in the season with better material (the dialogues are very poor), for now it’s not intriguing enough. All too easy.

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

Looks like Comcast’s people screwed up some labeling. According to the guide, Empire is on three times in a row after the prequels.

Maybe they just realize people need something to wash away the bad taste.

Tyrphanax said:

joefavs said:

Looks like Comcast’s people screwed up some labeling. According to the guide, Empire is on three times in a row after the prequels.

It’s to wash the taste of Prequel out of your mouth.

JOKE FIGHT !!!

I didn’t know about this ESB lucasfilm intro… I really missed the Fox fanfare opening TFA but using ESB closing coda is very weird for an opening theme. I hope Williams is going to deliver something to replace the Fox Fanfare for EpVIII and the other episodes (or 12 wagnerian movies without intro ?)… even a carbon copy would do… as rich as Disney is, they could even buy it 😃

I would say that all season 1 is good; it’s only 14 episodes (special overture + 13 regulars) but it’s worth watching every one of them. But season 2… yep, too many fillers… so, I would advise you to only watch the following (12 episodes):

(2.01) - The Siege of Lothal
(2.02) - The Lost Commanders
(2.03) - Relics of the Old Republic
(2.04) - Always Two There Are
(2.05) - Brothers of the Broken Horn
(2.12) - The Protector of Concord Dawn
(2.15) - Homecoming
(2.16) - The Honorable Ones
(2.17) - Shroud of Darkness
(2.18) - The Forgotten Droid
(2.20) - Twilight of the Apprentice, Part 1
(2.21) - Twilight of the Apprentice, Part 2

It really should have stayed a 14 episodes format, with the good material of the 9 bad episodes infused into the others, the good episodes would have been even better. So instead of 14 very good episodes it’s just - for me - 12 good episodes (with a handful of great ones) and 9 mediocre (at best) ones. Still a better show than the overrated TCW.

edit: it seems I mostly agree with NeverarGreat here. Except for Legend of the Lasat (logicial since I don’t like ST5 😃).

Density said:

The crows in Dumbo

Could you explain why this is racist ?

Hulk film critic wrote something about Cap3 (I haven’t read it yet, but it’s probably very interesting): http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/24/civil-war-spider-man-2-and-the-dangers-of-assumed-empathy

(don’t forget to use the dehulkifier)