Sounds good to provide such an “alternate ending cut”. What about the Yoda deleted scene in the original ending cut ?
The theory was that at the end of the trilogy, Ben would be redeemed as a Jedi, and Rey would fall to the Dark Side.
One complete trilogy to tell that, it would be seriously lacking interest… which is sadly the case of the new trilogy so far 😕 i’m not hyped by the new trailer: repurposed ideas, Mad Max 3 vibe, and many shots which look cheap (the darth Rey shot is terrible, looks fake with a catchy weapon, it’s ridiculous).
It could just be a force vision. Imagine if this shot had been in the ESB trailer.
Which means that Luke sees himself in Vader. The Darth Rey shot of the new trailer is featuring a look and a weapon Rey has no reason to imagine (ie if it was a Dagobah sequence, she would picture herself as Ren, not as something new).
Thanks ! Totally forgot to check FE, I just checked on the spleen where the edit is nowhere to be seen. Seems the project is SD locked, I wonder if the faneditor made an update with DH sources. I’ll try to find it anyway, it seems to be exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks again 😉
edit: hum… can’t find it anywhere 😕 could someone point me in the right direction ? Thanks in advance 😃
Guys, does anyone know if there is a fanedit of Star Trek Enterprise last episode ? I’m rewatching the show but I don’t really want to finish with the terrible official last episode, so if there is on that cuts out all of the TNG material to leave the focus on Archer, I would welcome it.
Thanks in advance ! 😃
I took the advice above and rewatched Clone Wars (2003 - 2005 animated tv series).
You did well 😉
I mean by that that I failed to see the point of big chunks of it. Like at least a third of the episodes are quite bad, and only a third is actually good. TCW has its moments, but like Rebels it’s way too long and lacks focus.
screams in the void said:
Mala, how much of the cgi version have you watched in order to make a fair comparison ?
All of it 😉
But over 120 episodes with a 20 minutes running time, TCW fails to maintain my attention entirely where CW is a 120 minutes ride, pure Star Wars-packed. It feels more like a movie, especially its second part that closely ties to ROTS. I should also mention an incredible sequence at the beginning of the first volume: Anakin walking in an eery and dark Coruscant crowded area, and seing his own reflection - a dark and trouble face - while being chased by who later revealed to be Padmé. Great piece.
(also the knighting scene which is brillant)
(and such a good idea for Anakin and Obi-Wan to have a sort of argument over how they miss Qui-Gon)
CW = masterpiece. Period!
Not sure how available it is though since it’s not canon.
The dvds are out of print but iso files of the american discs can be found on the spleen (and maybe elsewhere).
I’ve said it many times but I stick to my position: Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars is the best thing that happened to Star Wars since the OT. It gives in around 2 hours most of what I wanted to see in the PT (Anakin/Obi-Wan friendship, Anakin being the best starfighter pilot ever, intelligent references to the OT - Yavin IV duel ! -, badass vilains - Ventress, Grievous -, more depth - the heroes journey that foreshadows Anakin’s fall -, more mythology - kyber crystals, lightsaber construction -, and breathtaking action scenes - gosh, the entire battle for Coruscant is great!).
Without the microseries, the PT is lacking its heart. I’ve always thought that Lucas probably was upset the PT was a Trilogy since its narrative works better as a 4 part story, otherwise the infamous Clone Wars only happen at the end of Episode II and end around the middle part of Episode III. He probably was also upset this cartoon was way better than expected, so he “erased” it with a CGI version which is nowhere near as good.
Cool, I’ll try to do the extraction this week. I’ll let you know by PM as soon as I get the first tracks.
I still own the hexalogy dvd, but they are PAL. I can make an extract of the french dubbings, for the next week end I can try (I would be surprised if no OT.com member has made that already). Let me know !
(Guys, I really love you. Your conversation is among the funniest things of this day)
BTW, excellent job Ady, looks perfect.
I still think TFA is the worst of the bunch. I won’t change my mind and certainly not for switching in its place ROTS 😃
Although… Star Wars has already introduced time travel as canon, AND used it as a way to bring dead characters back to life (Ahsoka).
Indeed: Rebels seasons 3 and 4 were so bad…
(and Palpatine was lame in season 4 ending)
(seasons 1 & 2 were quite good though)
- Replace Holdo with Admiral Ackbar in the hyperspace Kamikaze attack (borrowing shots from Ivan Ortega)
You… you can’t be serious man. Those shots look TERRIBLE.
Your cutlist is very close to Ivan’s edit btw, you should check it (it’s bad beyond belief but, hey, who am I to judge ?)
I won’t be of much help about this, since I don’t believe TLJ needs that many things to be removed. My only issues with the theatrical cut that can be fixed are essentially the “MCU stuff” (and not even all of it). That being said, about the V3 changes :
Remove the silly mugshot of Hux after commenting on Poe’s X-wing approaching
Remove Rey interpreting Chewbacca to Luke (He just responds with “The Falcon?”)
Seems like good ideas.
Remove Luke’s quip about Jakku being “pretty much nowhere”
Well I like this joke 😃
Remove Rose responding to Finn’s “MTFBWY” with “you too.”
Yeah, in favor of removing it. Finn has just been around for like 24 hours, I don’t get why he would be some kind of rock star.
Tighten up Finn and Rose’s reaction to Maz’s “Oh yes, he can” for better timing
Why not ?
Reinstate a trimmed version of the balcony scene overlooking kids and horses being beaten on Canto Bight
Yep, I agree without that the movie lacks depth.
Reinstate Rey asking Kylo Ren if he has a cowl to put on
Funny that we’ll never agree about that 😄 we have the same interpretation of the film, but we don’t interpret this sequence the same way.
V1 changes redacted in V2:
Hux being berated by Snoke
(the scene doesn’t work at all)
V1 or V2 changes for which I don’t agree with :
Trimmed Paige kicking the ladder slightly
Removed Rose repeating, “They can track us through lightspeed.“
Removed Luke’s line to R2, “Nothing can make me change my mind.”
Trimmed some of the comedy with BB8 being placed under a basket
Removed the detail from Kylo Ren that Rey’s parents are buried in the Jakku desert
Excellent news ! I’ll probably give your edit a try. Congrats on finishing it 😉
I must say I’m very glad with V6. I remember when I first saw Hal’s edit of EpII, my only issues where the weird “Kamino system” alien voice, the lack of the droid factory scene to address the continuity problem on Geonosis (and to put back some action at a necessary moment), and a few other stuff here and there (most of the little stuff had already been fixed with V5 compared to V4 which was the first version I saw).
I don’t mind Dax scene at all (especially here without the bad introduction), as I remember one of my first posts on this topic was probably about putting it back to address the “Kamino system” issue. As for the Jar Jar stuff, when Dom talked about his own edit he mentioned he would be putting this kind of stuff back, so rewatching those two short scenes I’m like “well, why cutting that in the first place anyway since there is nothing bad ?” (good idea to leave the senate emergency power scene as it was in v5 though). It’s also probably unconscious for most of us, with what we recently learned with Ahmed Best difficult time with the Jar Jar bashing.
Other little stuff put back are incidental so small that I’m fine with it (I haven’t got time to watch it entirely, just the main changes over V5, but given the changelist I’m sure it’s cool). It gives EpII back most of its original content without the very bad stuff, which is something I was looking for since I’m more and more tolerant with the PT and its defaults as time passes. V6 is a very conservative edit, removing the worst and keeping what’s necessary to not feel in front of a fanedit (yeah, Anakin’s creepy look is lame but the cut in V5 wasn’t that seamless). I also believe you’re the first faneditor to finally remove this awkward shot of Anakin watching his foot to reveal… Padmé lying in the sand ! Where is Marcia Lucas when we need her ! 😉
The only thing I would have put back is the title “Darth Tyranus” and maybe Octoroxx idea of reusing EpIII footage. Aside from that, I believe V6 is as close as possible to the perfect EpII cut according to my taste. I would however be interested to see a mock up of a trimmed confession scene, just to check if it could improved something.
As I am thinking about the alternate audio track I made for V5, I’ve just found the following that I could duplicate for V6 (most of my V5 changes are no longer relevant for V6):
Replace Padmé’s “Ani” with “Anakin” taken from the deleted scene (All channels)
Add eerie motif at Kamino from McNeely’s “Imperial City” (All channels)
Replace ending cue with McNeely’s “Imperial City” excerpt (All channels)
As soon as I find time, I’ll try to do it. It was so painful to make the alternate audio for the ending that I want to keep it V6 compliant 😄
edit: oh too bad we didn’t think of that sooner : adding the necklace Anakin gave to Padmé in EpI during the wedding in EpII. I don’t remember if we talked about that during V5.
I’d be interested to hear your thoughts and the challenges around Revisited 4K?
Guys… he’s already redoing ANH:R in HD (which means rebuilding everything he made for the SD version from scratch) while working on ROTJ:R. Let him live !
I’m glad you’ve used a higher bitrate video source for TESB: the quality is excellent. I haven’t checked the entire edit yet, but I like the colors (to be fair I don’t mind the bluray color timing except for the pink lightsaber, however it looks better with this grading). Thanks to anyone involved with it (I understand it’s a huge amount of work to get this result). I’m ok with what’s kept for the SE (many small things actually) and what’s being pushed away or “fixed” (Adywan’s Emperor and cloud city continuity issue, brillantly done - I just wish you had emulated his continuity fix for the reused shot of Piett at the end of the movie).
I’m surprised by the change from “the Jedi master” to “a Jedi master”, but it works well. I’m more surprised by the fact Lucas never thought about implementing it himself back in 2004/2011 !
Just to be sure about that: you have no intention of putting back some of the “queen meeting” sequence (without “angry Anakin” of course), right ? This scene provides more political exposition and continuity between Episode I and II regarding the Trade Federation and the Naboo official blindess towards the Republic.
(besides the scene is shot on actual set, it’s nice to get as much real locations as possible in this movie)
I’m just mentioning it now to be sure, since you wish v6 to be final.
Hal 9000 said:
[Place lines from Jamila scene about staying in the lake country to refugee transport scene]
OK, I didn’t remember the queen’s name 😄 nevermind my post then 😃
Marcia… Marcia formerly Lucas ? Seriously, one of the best editors of her time is going to attend the double feature ? That’s awesome. And in 70mm glory !
(yeah there also is R1 scheduled but even if I don’t like it, its cinematography is among the best of the Saga)
(and I love Giacchino’s score)
Have fun Lucky ones !
Is someone gonna try to add some food into the clones dishes ? I know they are “totally obedient”, but still, they need food !
Anyway, nice idea the steaming laser.
(and add a spy between Ren and Ackbar, so the later can say “there is a spy between us !”)
After over a years worth of work this is a very disappointing outcome from Ivan.
Good thing is that by following Ivan you’ve found this forum where you can find really well made TLJ edits. Given your post history, I know you did. Keep enjoying good edits then 😉