Would be cool if you created a custom color grade that toned down the piss filter.
You mean a neutral colle grading ? Might check that out but as a separate master then.
Hello there !
Here are preview screenshots of an upcoming 4K Filmized Remaster of Avatar’s Extended Collector’s Edition.
While the new 4K remaster has been praised all over the net, I’ve never been quite pleased with the oversharpened new image. Starting with the 1080p unaltered bluray, I applied my 4K Filmized Remaster process (Topaz Video AI upscale in 4K with the best settings, then a filmconvert layer of film grain) to get the best natural looking image. It might looks less detailed compared to the offical 4K image but it looks already smoother and less uncanny in motion to me.
Only the extra scenes from the 4K remaster will be reworked from this 4K source. Rest of the movie will be restored from the original 1080p master. The goal is to merge the final master with the unaltered audio mixes in English and Truefrench and its subtitles.
Stay tuned.
1080p source (scale to 200% to match 4K)
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4K Filmized Remaster
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1080p source (scale to 200% to match 4K)
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jakeandelwooduk was so kind to provide me the HDTV open matte rip (in 25 fps) and again, it is quite different from the 3D one. A lot more color saturation and the framing also seems to be slightly different (besides the lower bitrate and thus data reduction artefacts of course):
Can you also share it with me ? I’ll see what I can do.
Hello there.
Here are some tests and results on a potential 4K Filmized Remaster of our beloved Jurassic Park. Image is sourced from the unaltered Ultra HD bluray. Some color grading and film grain have been applied and macroblocking of the original 2K master has been reduced.
Official 4K (tone-mapped in SDR)
4K Filmized Remaster
Zoom-in Official 4K (tone-mapped in SDR)
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Official 4K (tone-mapped in SDR)
4K Filmized Remaster
Zoom-in Official 4K (tone-mapped in SDR)
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All movies are finally available in their 4K Filmized Hybrid Open Matte Scope Remasters.
Movies that got a V2 treatment so far with 10 bits 4:2:0 color encoding to avoid macroblocking and banding :
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (Theatrical & Extended)
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part I
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part II
Movie that will likely get a V2 treatment for better results :
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince
Movies that probably won’t get a V2 treatment (unless I have time to do it) :
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (Theatrical & Extended)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
@MJBenito:
While I was actually looking for differences in regard to banding (where V2 is better indeed), I’ve also noticed a color difference between V1 and V2 with the latter tending to be slightly greenish now compared to V1:
https://ibb.co/fksjxtn
https://ibb.co/2kNd0HNIs that intended?
Yes it is, I thought the color grading needed more adjustments and maybe that’s why you get the sensation of a greenish color grading compared to V1. But it’s not, v2 is the best option, trust me.
Hi, I’m quoting your last post but I’ll try to answer every question you’ve asked in this thread.
Thanks. But let me pick up those which got unnoticed:
- What tool(s) do you use for that kind of color adjustments?
- Do they offer any option to apply dither the output before the encoding stage?
BUT it is the only version available in 1.78.
Except for that HDTV version which jakeandelwooduk mentioned, isn’t it?
I tried to compare it with the scope version and besides the fact that not all shots are open matte but sometimes slightly zoomed, the geometry of the shots are also not always matching. After thoughts, I decided it would be too much work to blend 2D and 3D images together cause it would have to be done shot by shot.
I concur, same diagnose. I supposed the effort is also tremendous with “only” the color correction, isn’t it?
But my work on Titanic will stop with the 4K Filmized Open Matte Remaster.
Fair enough.
And the whole project that will also get the 4K Filmized Remaster treatment with adjusted color grading.
What would be great!
V2 is now available and should sync with you all.
Many thanks for sharing and all your great work. Will be enjoyed, backed up and cherished.
Again I wondered what could be accomplished if anyone sane would get access to the original negative and scan that with only minimum color adjustments so it looks right on today’s screens with pristine HDR, preserved film grain, open matte, etc.
Sigh …
I’m working on Premiere Pro with Lumetri color adjustments and I’m using the Voukoder plugin that allows you to use the open source x265 encoding. It offers better encoding resulting that even the best h265 encode settings available in-app. x265 is the encoding solution available on the well-praised Handbrake software. It offers lots of settings including the way x264 needs to encode color settings. In this case, considering the Open Matte version is sourced from a h264 4:2:0 8 bits encoding, I thought the whole 4K Filmized Remaster process would have worked in the same color space… Only to find that the final image had banding and macro blocking issues. That’s why I made a V2 from scratch using 4:2:0 10 bits for the whole remastering process. You’ll surely notice differences from V1 to V2 during deep ocean scenes and final scenes of the movie.
Of course I’ve seen the post regarding the HDTV version but I wanted the best encoding available for the open matte. Even if that means a little more DNR baked in the source.
If only we had access to the OCN… All that work wouldn’t have to happen then.
V2 is now available and should sync with you all. Thanks for your patience.
Is anyone seeding this on resilio? I currently have 0 peers
Check again.
Due to high demand of download requests, I’m looking for a better tool than Resilio to host my Harry Potter remasters projects. I’ll get back to everyone when it’s available. If you have any encrypted solution, feel free to send me a PM. Thanks for the patience. In the meantime, “Sorcerer’s Stone” extended cut is done in 4K Hybrid Open Matte / Scope and I’ll start working on “Chamber of Secrets” extended cut in 4K Hybrid Open Matte / Scope really soon.
WeTransfer.
Please. Share your pro subscription for >50BG files.
I saw on your Titanic thread that you were dropping to 1080p due to banding issues.
Will that affect this project?
1080p or 4k, I’m looking forward to Deathly Hallows 1 and 2, really enjoyed the mixed ratio in films 1, 2, and 6.
I’ve figured out what was going on with some Titanic shots. This won’t affect the HP project and 7 and 8 should be ready by the end of this week, hopefully.
Thanks for your patience.
EDIT : problem solved, V2 is on the way.
A few further thoughts on that project which might call for a “V3”:
While MJBenito’s color adjustments are great and the slight noise layer maybe rescue at least some filmic style, it cannot hide the already “scrubbed”, de-noised and somewhat waxy nature of the source.
Also, directly comparing the 2D Blu-ray release with the upscaled 3D one, the former still has a bit more resolution (visible on the clothes) so I wonder whether an open matte version could be created out of the 2D source with its higher quality and the missing information above and below stitched together from the 3D open matte version. However, the image angles seem to be a bit different and I’m not sure if either eye frame (left & right) from the 3D BD matches the original 2D film frames.
https://ibb.co/VCCCG5C
https://ibb.co/sPwHC6pThere is also an extended cut floating around from 35mm where the additional scenes don’t seem to be sourced from the film, but rather some Web-DL streaming video.
Sigh, all in all, it is so damn frustrating considering that those morons are sitting on the best source possible, the negatives, and apparently can’t simply release that stuff without screwing things up.
I can’t decide what I find more retarded: the stupid AI sharpening on the UHD-BD, the goddamn orange & teal ugly color gradings on both the Blu-rays or the filtering of the 3D-Blu-ray (the latter one maybe being the least non-sensical in regard to the noise which might distract in a 3D experience, although I doubt even that as our human vision isn’t noise-free either thanks to retinal-noise which can be very visible as well). Even if, there is no good reason not to release the open matte in 2D without the damn noise filtering.
So at the end, neither version is really great.
@MJBenito: maybe you could consider to release also a regraded version like this one here, but based on the 2D cinema scope source with its better quality or test another version with even more noise added as the Blu-ray has a lot more (color) noise than its 3D counterpart:
Hi, I’m quoting your last post but I’ll try to answer every question you’ve asked in this thread.
First of all, the 3D open matte version has less grain than its 2D scope counterpart for sure. BUT it is the only version available in 1.78. I tried to compare it with the scope version and besides the fact that not all shots are open matte but sometimes slightly zoomed, the geometry of the shots are also not always matching. After thoughts, I decided it would be too much work to blend 2D and 3D images together cause it would have to be done shot by shot.
The goal of this project has always been to get the biggest picture with the best color grading and the original audio experience. That’s also why I’m actually doing the V2 version with 10 bits color encoding. When it’s released, of course, anyone would be able to use the final rendering and make its own editing choices. But my work on Titanic will stop with the 4K Filmized Open Matte Remaster.
On the other side, I’m also working on an uncut version of the movie in scope, including the deleted scenes. And the whole project that will also get the 4K Filmized Remaster treatment with adjusted color grading. At some point, I might also make an uncut hybrid open matte scope version of the movie but I just don’t have a goal date for these releases.
Upcoming in the 4K Filmized Remaster series, straight from the untouched bluray master with DTS-HDMA audio in English and Truefrench. Color grading is also being reworked to get rid of the yellow tint.
King Kong (2005) EXTENDED 4K Filmized Remaster now available.
Thanks for your reviews already. I’m making a V2 version of the 4K Filmized Open Matte remaster with 10 bits color encoding, since I noticed some banding during some scenes under water. Thanks for your patience and let this be the final and definitive version to watch.
Pretty good work here… the DNR and sharpening is VERY apparent in some scenes from the retail 4k release. On the last comparison screenshot, I noticed your upscale has a strange horizontal band that runs across Kong’s forehead. Is that an artifact from the 1080p source?
Thanks, it is in its final stage. Now we’ll have a pretty decent master to watch this masterpiece. Talking about the last screenshot, I don’t see what you’re talking about. Can you zoom in and share the example, please ? What I’m seeing near his forehead is the line of his shoulder. The bluray encode was indeed a great encode and shouldn’t have many artifacts.
I’m referring to the screenshot above the words “I’m also looking forward to a clean open matte version of the theatrical cut or the extended cut to create a hybrid open matte / scope release. If someone here has it, just let me know. The only “good” open matte I found is ripped from Starz and is watermarked with their logo on several scenes.”
There’s a little band that runs horizontally across the top of the frame. You can also see it somewhat running along the left side of the frame as well and a tiny bit on the right.
Now I see the horizontal band. It is unfortunately part of the 1080p master, don’t know where this is coming from.
Thanks for the insights regarding the Open Matte version. I think it would be too much work to put out a hybrid version, then.
Pretty good work here… the DNR and sharpening is VERY apparent in some scenes from the retail 4k release. On the last comparison screenshot, I noticed your upscale has a strange horizontal band that runs across Kong’s forehead. Is that an artifact from the 1080p source?
Thanks, it is in its final stage. Now we’ll have a pretty decent master to watch this masterpiece. Talking about the last screenshot, I don’t see what you’re talking about. Can you zoom in and share the example, please ? What I’m seeing near his forehead is the line of his shoulder. The bluray encode was indeed a great encode and shouldn’t have many artifacts.
Thanks to nightstalkerpoet, a new version of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone 4K Filmized Open Matte is in the works. The main goal is to get rid of the macroblocking and banding (especially on night scenes), using a much better 1080p encode of the open matte version. Both THEATRICAL and EXTENDED cuts will get a V2 in the upcoming days.
On the side of the latter films, I’ve watched the whole saga in that format and I have some export issues with HP 7-8 that need to be fixed before it gets available. It is mainly frame drops between the Scope and the Open Matte switch, so it won’t take much time. Thanks for your patience.
Thanks to nightstalkerpoet, a new version of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone 4K Filmized Open Matte is in the works. The main goal is to get rid of the macroblocking and banding (especially on night scenes), using a much better 1080p encode of the open matte version. Both THEATRICAL and EXTENDED cuts will get a V2 in the upcoming days. Sorry to everyone who already got the original release.
Screenshots of the upcoming Episode III 4K Filmized Remaster.
Screenshots of the upcoming Episode II 4K Filmized Remaster.
Hello there !
Upcoming in the 4K Filmized Remaster series, here is the extended cut of Peter Jackson’s King Kong remake, freshly restored from the untouched original bluray with my restoration process.
As a big Peter Jackson fan, I always felt disappointed with the Ultra HD Bluray remaster. The new yellow color grading and over lightened/sharpened image always felt kinda off to me. I decided to start the remastering process from the original bluray and applied further color grading to get rid of the yellow tint. Screenshots comparison might help you to understand what I’m talking about.
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
Official 4K image tonemapped in SDR
4K Filmized Remaster
I’m also looking forward to a clean open matte version of the theatrical cut or the extended cut to create a hybrid open matte / scope release. If someone here has it, just let me know. The only “good” open matte I found is ripped from Starz and is watermarked with their logo on several scenes.
The final release will include untouched audio from the official 4K Ultra HD Bluray in English and Truefrench.
Stay tuned.
More screeshots
How does one get the links and was this exported with 35mm film stock - curious about the process
Sent you a PM. For the process, untouched bluray image and audio are used as reference, then upscaled in 4K using my best Topaz Video AI settings, and then re-exported with an extra grain layer of 35mm film stock (and in this case, Super 35mm film stock grain since there seems to be an Open Matte 35mm film scan available here).
Curious what your Topaz settings were for this one? Looks quite good from the stills. The increase in detail is maybe on the subtler side, but I don’t see many artifacts.
Still need to download your Titanic upscale. Looking forward to seeing how that looks.
Episode I is almost finished and Episode II is on the way. Will add more screenshots of the final render soon.