LuckyGungan2001

Nah.

TavorX said:

MalàStrana said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

StarWarsReviewer said:

I did not think it was possible for a Star Wars movie to be worse than Attack of the Clones, but there it is.

There are like, four Star Wars movies worse than Attack of the Clones.

I only count 3 ! What’s the fourth one ?

Maybe the animated Clone Wars one?

Yeah, that, The Phantom Menace, Rogue One and Return of the Jedi.

StarWarsReviewer said:

I did not think it was possible for a Star Wars movie to be worse than Attack of the Clones, but there it is.

There are like, four Star Wars movies worse than Attack of the Clones.

StarWarsReviewer said:

The Last Jedi: A movie made for stupid people with ADHD
by The Star Wars Reviewer

I mean, sure I’m a bit stupid sometimes, but I’ve never been diagnosed with ADHD, and it was still a great movie.

TomArrow said:

Haven’t read all the other good ideas yet but here’s what I’d do if I had some mad motivation to turn this into a watchable movie:

• Let the attack on the dreadnought (correct spelling?) be a success and not require the sacrifice of Asian girl #1.
• Let Lea die. Let Kylo kill her.
• Let her successor be a traitor. (and maybe instead let that young pilot do the kamikaze?)
• Let Luke die in the first laser blasts. No fancy speeches.
• Do something about Snoke’s death because it is preposterous and illogical.
• Remove Rey beating Luke.
• Let Chewie eat that thing.
• Reduce Luke’s whining
• Get rid of force ghosts blowing up stuff. (Yoda says “Those we teach shall surpass us” but he far surpasses Luke even in his death, so what’s the point? Besides, it’s pointless anyway.)
• Stop Asian girl #2 from bullying Finn.
• Let the resistance be rotted out almost completely.
• Overall reduce grrrrl pwr.
• Let Kylo defeat his enemies on his own in the throne room.
• Do something about the end of Kylo’s and Rey’s confrontation. Maybe let him let her get away, in an act of mercy or something?
• Remove Kylo being bossed around by that Imperial dude (what does he possibly have on him anyway?)

Of course this would completely break continuity with IX. But oh well.

Man, you’re removing all the best stuff.

DominicCobb said:

joefavs said:

Here’s a pretty good article about the film: https://www.avclub.com/part-kurosawa-part-wile-e-coyote-the-last-jedi-boldl-1821291545

RE: Ackbar vs. Holdo, the author of this piece has a good point in a response to a comment:

Ignatiy Vishnevetsky said:

Lotta folks seem to think that her role should have gone to good ol’ Admiral Ackbar, but I get Johnson’s intention: Everybody likes Ackbar, and the audience needs to be fooled into Poe’s point-of-view.

This completely. The other thing about Ackbar is… I’m sorry guys, he’s kind of a joke. When he showed up in TLJ everyone laughed. I think a lot of peeople wouldn’t buy the drama of him in an expanded role.

JEDIT: I need to be better about keeping all my responses in one post, rather than 4 back to back.

I don’t get this whole “He’s a well developed character already, he should have kamikazed the star destroyer” when he’s hardly a character at all. What do we know about him? What is his personality? It would have been the same as Holdo, but we could have gone “Oh, I’ve seen him before.”

Except RJ ignored most of the setups in TFA to do his own thing. So, in this case he did the folding, before drawing the next piece.

But he didn’t ignore them, he expanded on them and brought some of them to a conclusion. It’s not as if he didn’t acknowledge them or anything.

GlastoEls said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

As such, this trilogy is like that game where you fold a piece of paper and each person takes it in turns to draw a head/torso/legs then unfold the paper and see what weird monster drawing you end up with.

That’s exactly what it is, for better or for worse!

Mmm, not really, since in this case the paper isn’t folded and whoever draws the next piece can see exactly what came before and can consult whoever drew the last piece on what they should draw next.

Also, I didn’t realise Haseo was banned. How come that happened?

Reading this thread after watching The Last Jedi is funny because of how differently everything turned out, I love it.

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

They’ve also completely rebooted the Empire vs rebels scenario, with the Resistance now even being called rebels. Snoke was the only character with some history beyond the FO, and might have provided motivations that separates the FO from the Empire, but that’s all gone by the wayside. There are now only new faces part of an organisation without much of a history or an identity. It’s this sense of history and hidden layers that made Star Wars appealing to me, but now all the history and layers have been peeled away.

Thing is, it’s not Snoke’s First Order anymore, it’s Kylo’s. And yeah, the history’s been stripped away, but, again, that’s the point. It’s not about Vader or the Empire anymore. This is his and I’m excited to see where else he takes it.

It’s not about Vader or the Emperor. It’s about a sense of history, and motivations. With the OT there was the history of the old Republic, Vader, the Jedi. With the PT there was the history of the Sith, the rule if two. The FO has no history or identity. It’s just a bunch of faceless goons emulating the Empire, led by Kylo and Hux, neither of whom have any motivations aside from wanting to be evil.

There was no more motivation behind the Empire than that. There was a sense of history, sure - they were once the Old Republic. Well the First Order rose from the ashes of the Empire. I don’t know if you can really count the Sith in the PT because that was never even vaguely explained (which, to me, is fine). Kylo’s motivations in TFA and TLJ are obvious and make perfect sense for the character. I do hope he thinks bigger in IX though.

Yeah, but it’s more than that. The Empire consisted of many worlds, including the later named central system of Coruscant, home of the mysterious Emperor. The Alliance consisted of many worlds, with senators secretly conspiring to help them. It was a vast galaxy of peoples and allegiences. As I said there were many hidden layers in both space and time.

The FO is just a bunch of space ships, and a number of faceless enemies led by two youngsters. They don’t even have a home world, which as far as we know was SKB.

Yeah, Coruscant isn’t a part of the OT. If you want a more in depth and nuanced look at the makeup of the FO, it’s out there. Same goes for the Resistance.

I don’t care about some sort of EU.

I don’t mind the prequels. I actually really like Revenge of the Sith. Also I had never really realised this, but I love the cinematography and look of Attack of the Clones.

DrDre said:

chyron8472 said:

I don’t see why people are constantly complaining about TLJ like “it breaks what TFA set up!” or some such. That’s what I liked about it—the plot twists.

You think Snoke is going to be the next Palpatine (ie. big bad who dies at the end of the third film), but he’s not.

You think Luke is going to mentor Rey but he doesn’t.

You think Leia is dead but she’s not.

You think someone or something on the Light Side is connecting Rey and Ren, but it’s Snoke, but it’s again not really.

You think Finn is going to destroy the tracker but he doesn’t and gets caught. You think there’s no way out except then BB-8 shows up in a chicken walker.

You think Poe is going to save the cruiser but he doesn’t.

You think it’s the Vice Admiral coming through the door but it isn’t.

You think Luke is on the planet fighting Ren but he’s not.

You think Ren is going to kill Rey but he doesn’t—he does exactly what Vader wanted to do in ESB but couldn’t.

 

It’s the best thing about the film. It keeps throwing curve balls.

Oh, and that business about Rey’s family being nobodies from nowheresville, Ren told her that. There is no guarantee that he was not lying. But even if he wasn’t, I like the idea that not the whole of the The Force hinges directly on descendants of the House of Skywalker (as many people speculated that she was a daughter of Luke or Leia).

The one real negative of the film is… Yoda. They got the Yoda voice actor from The Clone Wars (whom I hate), and used either another Creepy Puppet Yoda or a CGI adaption of it.

it took the Rebel Alliance five yours to take control after the battle of Endor.

Wait a sec, no it didn’t. It’s been established that it took less than a year for the Empire to back down.

joefavs said:

Hey you guys, WHERE WAS SNAP WEXLEY?! Are we to believe he died in the opening space battle without any acknowledgement?

I mentioned this, I thought it was funny how easily a main character of the Aftermath books was killed off.

At the moment, a hearty 10/10. The flaws people mention don’t bother me.

ilyasdesign40 said:

Collipso said:

One thing is for sure, we all love Empire

that film is one of a kind truly epic thats a proper star wars film!

shame their won’t be something like that again!

That’s what I thought, and then I saw The Last Jedi, which, in my humble opinion (hate that expression), actually surpassed Empire. Heresy I know.

Yes, that exactly what I want. A peaceful death like Luke’s, in between films.

I went in expecting to like it the same as I like The Force Awakens but I was blown away. I honestly don’t have any problems with the film. I’m glad I feel that way and I can’t wait to see it again.

Don’t worry wrong thread.

NeverarGreat said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

The Phantom Menace (1999) - 4/PERFECT
Attack of the Clones (2002) - 6/PERFECT
Revenge of the Sith (2005) - 7/PERFECT
Rogue One (2016) - DEFECT/PREFECT
A New Hope (1977) - 9/PERFECT
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 9/PERFECT
Return of the Jedi (1983) - 6/PERFECT
The Force Awakens (2015) - 7/PERFECT
The Last Jedi (2017) - PERFECT/PERFECT

Made that consistent for you.

Consistency? Where’s the fun in that?

The Phantom Menace (1999) - 4/10
Attack of the Clones (2002) - 6/10
Revenge of the Sith (2005) - 7/10
Rogue One (2016) - Didn’t finish watching
A New Hope (1977) - 9/10
The Empire Strikes Back (1980) - 9/10
Return of the Jedi (1983) - 6/10
The Force Awakens (2015) - 7/10
The Last Jedi (2017) - PERFECT/10

So I just saw it. It was pretty much perfect, no flaws whatsoever, my favourite Star Wars film now. I swear I’m not fanboying, I’m pretty set in my opinion, unlike Rogue One. I’m sure my opinion of it will diminish in further viewings but for now I’m comfortable saying I like it the most out of the films. I did find it funny how Snap Wexley I think, a major character in the books, is killed off so nonchalantly. Good thing I never liked his character much.

TV’s Frink said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

I’m seeing it at midday today so that’s pretty cool! In my time zone it’s 8:40 AM so not long now!

You’re seeing The Room for the first time? I wish I could see it again for the first time. You lucky bastard.

I’ve never actually sat down and watched The Room but I’ve seen all the scenes that one has to.

I’m seeing it at midday today so that’s pretty cool! In my time zone it’s 8:40 AM so not long now!

moviefreakedmind said:

I think he’s in Australia.

Bloody oath mate, now let me throw a shrimp on the barbie and crack open a stubby! You beaut’!

(no one says that)