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- Can't be Bothered: justifying Rey's power vs Luke's
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That escalated quickly. I wish things like this were discussed with more civility.
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That escalated quickly. I wish things like this were discussed with more civility.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/04/26/avengers-endgame-review-imax/
We should look into preserving Endgame’s IMAX cut after the bd comes out.
How did you manage to see it so early?
Came out on the 24th in Australia.
Lucky.
You mean you didn’t see those Rontos walking in front of the drive-in? 😛
😂😂
Would you recommend I rip the cinematics from the PC version, the PS4 version, or the Xbone version?
Xbox as the quality will be the best. Or do a mix of the three.
Big words coming from you.
Excuse me?
Check the Battlefront II cinematics and concept art. I think you can find usable establishing shots there.
Also give Rogue One a look for the Rebel Base and space shots.These might allow you to integrate the deleted scenes a bit better, because you need something to cut to and from, specially when you have music 😃
Where do I look, as far as top quality is concerned?
BII is game quality and RO is movie quality.
It sounds great to this American.
Luke’s best friend mentions he’s a good pilot? Not in the movie I watch.
Also, we don’t see Luke pilot a ship until the end of the movie, so it’s necessary to set it up so it doesn’t come out of nowhere. When Rey says she’s a pilot as they’re running towards the Falcon, we’re still learning who she is. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t take her at her word, and it would have been silly to mention so earlier (“That’s Teedo. He has no respect for anyone. But I’m Rey and I fly ships good”).
“Sir, Luke is the best bush pilot in the outer rim territories” is in the movie.
Nope
Can either of you please provide a source for these claims?
Does anyone have the edit of Harmy’s Despecalized Edition for Star Wars that adds the Episode IV title card from the 1997 SE?
I really want to rewatch the first one but not seeing that in the beginning literally kills the movie for me because it sets the tone of a ongoing serial and being thrown into a larger world for me. Thanks in advance.
Just download SW DEED and go into IMovie or something and swap out the crawl title.
Well, from his reaction to seeing Ben, it seems pretty clear Ben had not appeared to him before so Ben would not have been teaching him from beyond the grave. Otherwise there would be no need for Yoda.
It would not make sense for Luke to simply give up on the Force for the three years between ANH and TESB. You wouldn’t go “oh well, my mentor’s dead so I’m out”. The implication is that he kept training - to whatever extent. “But I’ve learned so much” is an indication of that.
The Marvel series had Luke training with remotes, meditating, using the Force in battle, and communing with ghost-Obi Wan. This obviously doesn’t count as ‘canon’, but it does indicate the logic of assuming Luke would carry on as best he could. Marvel were on a tight leash with regard to how much they could develop these characters, and they did not know the details of TESB until very close to the movie. There was a fan letter in one issue circa mid-1980 that said something like “you need to pick up the pace because it looks like Luke will be levitating small objects in the next movie - you guys still have him practising with his Lightsaber”. Again, this is a fan assuming the logic of Luke self-training as best he could. Yoda never said “download these skills you must, save time you will”. Training is crucial in the OT. Not in the ST.
one thing about that original Marvel series you did not mention is that in issue 23 , Luke was able to reach out telepathically and touch Vader’s mind , eliciting a very loud scream of agony from Vader . Pretty advanced stuff for a fledgling Jedi ! No one taught him that trick , but hey , it’s not “canon” after all…
I see you’re playing devil’s advocate.
Luke’s best friend mentions he’s a good pilot? Not in the movie I watch.
Also, we don’t see Luke pilot a ship until the end of the movie, so it’s necessary to set it up so it doesn’t come out of nowhere. When Rey says she’s a pilot as they’re running towards the Falcon, we’re still learning who she is. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t take her at her word, and it would have been silly to mention so earlier (“That’s Teedo. He has no respect for anyone. But I’m Rey and I fly ships good”).
I think he’s talking about the deleted Biggs scene.
The only thing Waukee has is lots and lots of weed.
Movies I have yet to see are numerous so here are just a few.
Pulp Fiction Star Trek the Undiscovered Country
Batman Hush
TV
Lucifer
John Constantine
Black Lightning
TLOTR(Amazon)
TiddySprinklesPimpBillion said:
Rose Tico in anything.
Are you sure you really want to stir up that chamber pot?
I guess some people like to watch the world burn.
Sounds awesome
So this thread is just meant to be an echo chamber without meaningful discussion? Also, how about don’t police threads you didn’t create?
Apologies.
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning.
Luke is the best stunt pilot in the outer rim territories, and has clearly been flying for years. And it’s notable that even he never does anything terribly flashy in the OT. Rey’s handling of the Falcon is about how you’d expect in the first few moments, but after that she successfully executes maneuvers far in excess of anything we’ve seen before. If anything, the contrast between almost crashing and ace-level piloting makes her abilities all the more noticeable.
Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren.
She has never seen Klyo use a Jedi mind trick or even successfully gain his desired information from interrogation, though she manages a successful and proper mind trick after a minute or two of trying.
She has never seen successful telekinesis or levitation, yet apparently learns this on the first attempt after only a moment of intention from Kylo. Interestingly, Kylo never indicates that he is aware of teaching Rey ‘You need a teacher! I can show you the ways of the Force!’ and Rey never acknowledges that she has gained knowledge from Kylo ‘The Force…’.I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
If only there was some sort of Jedi mentor which has been established to help Luke from beyond the grave, or a time jump of several years to help the audience suspend their disbelief. Or both.
How about waiting until IX is out and then perhaps many of your questions will have answers.
How about not defending the ST on a thread that has the goal of taking it apart.
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning.
Luke is the best stunt pilot in the outer rim territories, and has clearly been flying for years. And it’s notable that even he never does anything terribly flashy in the OT. Rey’s handling of the Falcon is about how you’d expect in the first few moments, but after that she successfully executes maneuvers far in excess of anything we’ve seen before. If anything, the contrast between almost crashing and ace-level piloting makes her abilities all the more noticeable.
Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren.
She has never seen Klyo use a Jedi mind trick or even successfully gain his desired information from interrogation, though she manages a successful and proper mind trick after a minute or two of trying.
She has never seen successful telekinesis or levitation, yet apparently learns this on the first attempt after only a moment of intention from Kylo. Interestingly, Kylo never indicates that he is aware of teaching Rey ‘You need a teacher! I can show you the ways of the Force!’ and Rey never acknowledges that she has gained knowledge from Kylo ‘The Force…’.I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
If only there was some sort of Jedi mentor which has been established to help Luke from beyond the grave, or a time jump of several years to help the audience suspend their disbelief. Or both.
Pretty much all of this ^
It’s amusing how people that defend TLJ accuse the detractors of cherry picking but then do exactly that themselves in defending it. Someone comments generally about Rey’s unbelievable command of a ship she’s never flown before (if she’s ever flown at all??) and so the defense is to post a gif of her crashing in the first few seconds…before she’s pulling flips and advanced manoeuvres in the middle of a star destroyer wreck?
Cherrypicking? The gif was posted in response to this post…
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning. Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren. I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
… as quoted in my post with the gif.
I don’t think that’s cherrypicking - the first line of yotsuya’s post ‘I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off.’
Seems the gif represents that quite well, yes?
I wasn’t replying to KurganX’s opening post - nor ‘defending’ TLJ - just highlighting what actually occurred in the film - as yotsuya mentioned.
Wow.
Where in the posts your replying to do they mention your name? He’s saying people in general.
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning.
Luke is the best stunt pilot in the outer rim territories, and has clearly been flying for years. And it’s notable that even he never does anything terribly flashy in the OT. Rey’s handling of the Falcon is about how you’d expect in the first few moments, but after that she successfully executes maneuvers far in excess of anything we’ve seen before. If anything, the contrast between almost crashing and ace-level piloting makes her abilities all the more noticeable.
Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren.
She has never seen Klyo use a Jedi mind trick or even successfully gain his desired information from interrogation, though she manages a successful and proper mind trick after a minute or two of trying.
She has never seen successful telekinesis or levitation, yet apparently learns this on the first attempt after only a moment of intention from Kylo. Interestingly, Kylo never indicates that he is aware of teaching Rey ‘You need a teacher! I can show you the ways of the Force!’ and Rey never acknowledges that she has gained knowledge from Kylo ‘The Force…’.I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
If only there was some sort of Jedi mentor which has been established to help Luke from beyond the grave, or a time jump of several years to help the audience suspend their disbelief. Or both.
Pretty much all of this ^
It’s amusing how people that defend TLJ accuse the detractors of cherry picking but then do exactly that themselves in defending it. Someone comments generally about Rey’s unbelievable command of a ship she’s never flown before (if she’s ever flown at all??) and so the defense is to post a gif of her crashing in the first few seconds…before she’s pulling flips and advanced manoeuvres in the middle of a star destroyer wreck?
Highlighted the relevant part for you mate - nobody else has posted a gif in here.
Sorry about that I hadn’t noticed.
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning.
Luke is the best stunt pilot in the outer rim territories, and has clearly been flying for years. And it’s notable that even he never does anything terribly flashy in the OT. Rey’s handling of the Falcon is about how you’d expect in the first few moments, but after that she successfully executes maneuvers far in excess of anything we’ve seen before. If anything, the contrast between almost crashing and ace-level piloting makes her abilities all the more noticeable.
Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren.
She has never seen Klyo use a Jedi mind trick or even successfully gain his desired information from interrogation, though she manages a successful and proper mind trick after a minute or two of trying.
She has never seen successful telekinesis or levitation, yet apparently learns this on the first attempt after only a moment of intention from Kylo. Interestingly, Kylo never indicates that he is aware of teaching Rey ‘You need a teacher! I can show you the ways of the Force!’ and Rey never acknowledges that she has gained knowledge from Kylo ‘The Force…’.I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
If only there was some sort of Jedi mentor which has been established to help Luke from beyond the grave, or a time jump of several years to help the audience suspend their disbelief. Or both.
Pretty much all of this ^
It’s amusing how people that defend TLJ accuse the detractors of cherry picking but then do exactly that themselves in defending it. Someone comments generally about Rey’s unbelievable command of a ship she’s never flown before (if she’s ever flown at all??) and so the defense is to post a gif of her crashing in the first few seconds…before she’s pulling flips and advanced manoeuvres in the middle of a star destroyer wreck?
Cherrypicking? The gif was posted in response to this post…
I just found this and read the first post. I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off. Once they were in the air she did pretty good, but when you compare that to Luke, he flew his X-wing like a pro from the beginning. Rey has to try things before she succeeds, pretty much the way Luke did. And she does have a teacher. She learns just about everything she does from Kylo Ren. I’d still like to know who taught Luke to lift his lightsaber in TESB.
… as quoted in my post with the gif.
I don’t think that’s cherrypicking - the first line of yotsuya’s post ‘I had to laugh at the idea that Rey flew the Falcon so well. She practically crashed the thing trying to take off.’
Seems the gif represents that quite well, yes?
I wasn’t replying to KurganX’s opening post - nor ‘defending’ TLJ - just highlighting what actually occurred in the film - as yotsuya mentioned.
Wow.
Where in the posts your replying to do they mention your name? He’s saying people in general.
Sounds pretty awesome.
Interesting
I don’t know how to feel about this, but I just did color restoration work on some porn for my own use.
Probably best to discuss that further on a porn site (or porn restoration site of choice) - and not here. Though thanks for sharing that ‘random thought’ mate.
I removed it.
That sucks
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