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A good debater uses logic. A bad one uses fallacies and emotion.
Then he lost the “debate” long ago.
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A good debater uses logic. A bad one uses fallacies and emotion.
Then he lost the “debate” long ago.
Interesting album art.
I can’t help but to think that a lot of influential and wealthy individuals (who became that way due to hard work alone) have adopted this worldview. If so then it has some merit.
I hate to be a downer, but 90% of humanity does nothing to further the evolution of society/humanity as a whole. Just try to further the lives of those you have direct impact on.
Lord Haseo said:
Sadly, this applies to most of humanity and before anyone says anything this certainly applies to me as well.
People need food and clothes. And hobbies.
Of course but you can do all those things and still have a job or do other deeds that are worthy of note.
I don’t understand. You’re building stores where people can buy the things they need. Seems productive to me.
For themselves…
What do you consider to be a meager existence?
What I consider to be a meager existence is an existence based on having a mundane job (or no job at all) and doing nothing to further the evolution of society/humanity as a whole.
People need food and clothes. And hobbies.
Of course but you can do all those things and still have a job or do other deeds that are worthy of note.
What do you consider to be a meager existence?
…I’m 21 years old and am merely a construction worker but I aspire to make some type of impact. I don’t know how I’ll do it but if I don’t my life will have been of no consequence.
You mean…other than the buildings you helped build that will remain standing after you’re gone.
I’m relatively new and all I’m helping to build is 2 Walmarts and a Hobby Lobby. I’m incredulous to believe those will still be standing after 25 years.
What do you consider to be a meager existence?
What I consider to be a meager existence is an existence based on having a mundane job (or no job at all) and doing nothing to further the evolution of society/humanity as a whole. Sadly, this applies to most of humanity and before anyone says anything this certainly applies to me as well. I’m 21 years old and am merely a construction worker but I aspire to make some type of impact. I don’t know how I’ll do it but if I don’t my life will have been of no consequence.
Which is fine. I get told I’m crazy at least 80% of the time I say that.
And I’m sure you wouldn’t have had any problems if I had swapped “nutting” for “cumming”
With adoption a person can be put in a toxic environment in which they can be abused. Furthermore they can have feelings of inadequacy and abandonment.
Life’s a bitch.
Huh. So you got sexually harassed at work today. Welp, can’t do anything about that. Life’s a bitch.
Using “they might have it rough” as an excuse for abortion isn’t legitimate to me. Essentially, it is saying that there isn’t anything you can do. Just terminate it.
I’m sure there are a lot of people who would prefer death over living life with the cards they have been dealt. Further more in my point of view non existence is preferable to a meager one. But that’s pretty much a completely separate topic.
Let’s say we make an exception for that. What about abortions that are for the sake of not wanting a child?
Again, my answer depends on the circumstances. Circumstances such as a condom ripping, the birth control is inept and a guy either forcibly or secretly nutting inside of a girl warrants an abortion if that is the woman’s desire.
And someone like me is entitled to call another an asshole for that opinion.
Don’t be bigoted about other people’s bigotry now. You should know better.
That has to be the coolest album cover of all time…
[Jeebus] said: (post/id/963229)
The difference is that “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is usually referring to homosexuality. In that case, the ‘sin’ is a part of who they are, and something they can’t change. Religion is a belief, that can indeed be changed.
How is that anti-religion or bigoted at all?
Because he’s religious and the only way in his mind that he can see people hating religion is being afflicted with the symptoms of being a zealot or having dogmatic hatred. So I guess if you hate the feminazi rhetoric that means you’re bigoted because reasons.
Very intelligent post. Since you do not actually argue my points with any skill, I’ll just continue believing I was right about you.
There’s nothing to really argue. You’re throwing out baseless claims because you’re overly sensitive about your religion.
RicOlie_2 said:
What does fully developed mean? The frontal lobe does not fully develop until one’s late twenties. Are people not people before then?
Yeah, I probably used the term “fully developed” wrong. What I mean is human that is fully (or close to it) developed in the womb and is ready (or close to it) to life
Who decides why a line should be drawn between various trimesters, and not, say, at conception, when a unique genetic code is created?
Because there are a great many developments that happen post conception that actually makes the fetus more than just semi living genetic code. So to speak.
Why should the helpless fetus/embryo have even its chance to have a life taken from it? Adoption is also a possibility, though I admit that it is not that simple.
With adoption a person can be put in a toxic environment in which they can be abused. Furthermore they can have feelings of inadequacy and abandonment.
And again why should a woman lose more control over her body? It’s as if she’s being punished for being raped. How I see it it’s pretty much telling her “I know you’ve been through a traumatic event and all but deal with it for the sake of the unborn baby you did not ask for”
[Jeebus] said: (post/id/963229)
The difference is that “Love the sinner, hate the sin” is usually referring to homosexuality. In that case, the ‘sin’ is a part of who they are, and something they can’t change. Religion is a belief, that can indeed be changed.
How is that anti-religion or bigoted at all?
Because he’s religious and the only way in his mind that he can see people hating religion is being afflicted with the symptoms of being a zealot or having dogmatic hatred. So I guess if you hate the feminazi rhetoric that means you’re bigoted because reasons.
They start getting a bit big at that time…Maybe I have more reverence for unborn life than I thought. But then again my opinion doesn’t really matter; it’s the woman’s opinion that hold actual merit.
1 - 3 months after pregnancy. 4 months depending on the circumstances.
“To me a person is a human who is fully developed or at least close to it and birthed into the world.”
8 months is pretty close.
Well at least to me a fetus is not really a person yet. Also let’s not forget that some abortions are for women impregnated by their rapist so in that case I think it’s definitely justified to get an abortion.
What makes a person a person?
To me a person is a human who is fully developed or at least close to it and birthed into the world.
So eight months pregnant is an acceptable time for an abortion?
No…what gave you that impression?
Well at least to me a fetus is not really a person yet. Also let’s not forget that some abortions are for women impregnated by their rapist so in that case I think it’s definitely justified to get an abortion.
What makes a person a person?
To me a person is a human who is fully developed or at least close to it and birthed into the world.
Who decides what falls under that definition?
I’m pretty sure the people who have knowledge of trimesters and other things of the like.
Is it justifiable to subject a fetus to the kind of pain that they experience during an abortion? Would not the same done to another non-person, such as a puppy, be considered horrific cruelty?
If it’s animal abortion then yes. Also animals of course have less inherent value than a human so it would mean even less if their unborn are done away with.
In the case of rape, why is it justifiable to end a third party’s life (that of a not fully developed human being who is completely dependent on his mother, but that also describes a one-year old) because they are a product of violence done to you?
Because the woman didn’t choose to partake in sexual intercourse and the woman didn’t choose to bear a child. I don’t think a raped woman should have to take on such a huge responsibility because of mere misfortune. I mean wouldn’t these woman had enough control taken away from them?
Better. I’m also a fan of “Bottom Befuddled”
Too tame and mundane.